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Re: why GOD(allah) did not send rasuul to the western hemisphere

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:59 pm
by djibsomali
Somali-Star wrote:djibsomali,

when allah says he swt has send a prophet to every nation then we accept it with questioning it. to reject or question any of the words of allah swt is kufr. and we know how many prophets were send in all: one hundred and twenty four thousand prophets.
Mashallah.
Could you please enlighten me where it says about the exact number of prophets???
I don't remember reading anywhere the prophet saying it (but i could be wrong)

Re: why GOD(allah) did not send rasuul to the western hemisphere

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:21 pm
by ModerateMuslim
djibsomali,

in retrospect, it seems that hadith which those numbers were deduced from is rather weak/non-sahih (if you can understand arabic):

http://www.islamqa.com/ar/ref/110849

http://www.islam-qa.com/ar/ref/95747

and allah knows best

Re: why GOD(allah) did not send rasuul to the western hemisphere

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:56 pm
by djibsomali
Somali-Star wrote:djibsomali,

in retrospect, it seems that hadith which those numbers were deduced from is rather weak/non-sahih (if you can understand arabic):

http://www.islamqa.com/ar/ref/110849

http://www.islam-qa.com/ar/ref/95747

and allah knows best

Good man, at least you are objective on this one

Re: why GOD(allah) did not send rasuul to the western hemisphere

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:39 am
by suga_delic
there r around 25,000 prophets n only 25 r mension in da quran. Im sure every qawm had 1 sent 2 them. :up:

Re: why GOD(allah) did not send rasuul to the western hemisphere

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:22 am
by edleh
Dr Yalaxaw, Adiga yaa ku ogeysiiyey in uu san Illaahay [S.W. A] wax Nebi ah u soo dirin "Western Hemisphere?" Waxaan filayaa in weydaatu ay kuugu soo dhacday si kedis ah, kadibna aad meeshan la soo gashay adiga oo aan samayn wax raadraac ah oo la xiriirra waxa Illaahay [Jalla Jallaal] inoogu sheegay Qur'aanka Sharafta leh.

Re: why GOD(allah) did not send rasuul to the western hemisphere

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:32 am
by AhlulbaytSoldier
To every nation Allah swt sent them a prophet from their own people. Meaning,there was a roman prophet,chinese prophet,native american prophet etc.
Not all prophets were jews or arabs. Thinking like that is just clear racism and contradicts the noble quran.

Re: why GOD(allah) did not send rasuul to the western hemisphere

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:42 am
by Hussein53
The first person to discover the western hemisphere was not christopher columbus, the simple fact that people where already there proves that fact.
In fact Christopher Columbus had ARAB seamen who guided him to the America's and there where muslim tribes discovered there when Christopher got there. This proves Islam reached the western hemisphere way before Christopher Columbus.
Anyways this concept of One GOD is natural and in your fitra so you don't really need prophets to believe in this concept. Prophets were sent as a mercy so those who got lost can have a opportunity to return to there FITRA.
Prophets came to guide mankind to the best way of life thats pleasing to ALLAH and with some knowledge to mankind. Like how to use Iron (ALLAH taught prophet DAUD (as) how to make iron malleable). This was the beginning of the IRON AGE.

Before every advance in technology there was a Prophet sent before it.

That including Mohamed (SAW)

Re: why GOD(allah) did not send rasuul to the western hemisphere

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:53 am
by Paddington Bear
Where was Dr Y going with this anyway? One does not ask questions just for the sake of it.

Re: why GOD(allah) did not send rasuul to the western hemisphere

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:35 am
by Hyperactive
Enemy_Of_Mad_Mullah wrote:
Verily, We have sent you with the truth, a bearer of glad tidings and a warner. And there never was a nation but a warner had passed among them (35:24)
means, there was never any nation among the sons of Adam but Allah sent warners to them,
and left them with no excuse. And there are many similar Ayat like;

وَلَقَدْ بَعَثْنَا فِى كُلِّ أُمَّةٍ رَّسُولاً أَنِ اعْبُدُواْ اللَّهَ وَاجْتَنِبُواْ الْطَّـغُوتَ فَمِنْهُم مَّنْ هَدَى اللَّهُ وَمِنْهُمْ مَّنْ حَقَّتْ عَلَيْهِ الضَّلَـلَةُ

(And verily, We have sent among every Ummah a Messenger (proclaiming): "Worship Allah, and avoid all false deities.'' Then of them were some whom Allah guided and of them were some upon whom the straying was justified) (16:36).
ينصر دينك يا الخال

Re: why GOD(allah) did not send rasuul to the western hemisphere

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:09 pm
by Babygirl-
Our Local Sheikh was asked this Question & He said, People from Islands or Far away corners of the World, Deaf,Blind & Dumb people, Handicapped & Crazy people will be brought together after everyone else has been judged & they will say we never heard or knew about anything!! after that God will say all of you enter Hell & some will walk toward hell obeying & the rest will say Why? What did we do? we are not Guilty of anything? God will call the others back an say Enter Janah if you were on Earth you would have obeyed me, & the rest enter hell because back on earth you would not have obeyed me as you did not Obey me Now.

Re: why GOD(allah) did not send rasuul to the western hemisphere

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:30 pm
by Cinque Mtume
So in that light, was the ancient Egyptian Pharaoh Akhnaton of the 18th Dynasty also a messenger of Allah swt? I've always wondered this.


He ordered his people to believe in one God called Aten and many aspects of the 'strange religion' that he preached is similar to ours and some scholars including Freud even believe that he might have been the forerunner of Judeo-Christian monotheism and thereby also Islam. For instance, Egyptians like the Greeks believed in Gods that were like humans, whilst Akhnaton preached that Aten was not a visible entity, but that it was a God who was everywhere.

Nebi Musa was said to be an Atenist priest during his days in Egypt. Very interesting, considering that Nebi Musa is according to Islam, the prophet that has the most similarities with Nebi Muhammad SAW than any other prophet.

Re: why GOD(allah) did not send rasuul to the western hemisphere

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:55 pm
by surrender
Babygirl- wrote:Our Local Sheikh was asked this Question & He said, People from Islands or Far away corners of the World, Deaf,Blind & Dumb people, Handicapped & Crazy people will be brought together after everyone else has been judged & they will say we never heard or knew about anything!! after that God will say all of you enter Hell & some will walk toward hell obeying & the rest will say Why? What did we do? we are not Guilty of anything? God will call the others back an say Enter Janah if you were on Earth you would have obeyed me, & the rest enter hell because back on earth you would not have obeyed me as you did not Obey me Now.

yeah babygirl i heard similar, but they not just Deaf,Blind & Dumb people, Handicapped & Crazy, they are normal people, like you and me, and allah will say to them, yaa ibnu aadam, maxaad ii caabudiwaden, and they'll be like oh allah the truth have never come to us. and allah will say to them, none of my pophets? no one! they say. not even the quran? no! not even an aya? no they'll say. so allah says to them so if i tell you today that am the lord, the creator of hevean and earth and everything between, bow down to sujuud and obey me will you? they say oh yaa alaah yes, and they all bow down. and allah (remember alah is only testing them) so if i tell you now, all of you follow that angel he will take you to hell and kuwaara abadan will you do it? and some will jump back and NO, never, how can i go to hell, i dont want to go to hell, i havent done nothing wrong. but the rest will obey and say yes yaa alah, and will follow the angel. alah will say to the half that obeyed him to go to enter Janah if you were on Earth you would have obeyed me, and the half that refused will be taken to hell.


so there are people in this world that never got the true message, born and die as jaahiliin,

Re: why GOD(allah) did not send rasuul to the western hemisphere

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:00 pm
by Kambala
DR-YALAXOOW wrote:pangea was 500 million years ago, and all prophets and even humans come this planet much much later.
If that's so, then it would mean humans in the Western hemisphere had a different origin other than Adam. I mean, traveling through the Atlantic or Pacific ocean to reach the Western hemisphere wasn't possible until a few thousands or (several hundreds) years ago. How do you suggest people traveled through the Atlantic/Pacific ocean to reach the Western hemisphere?

Re: why GOD(allah) did not send rasuul to the western hemisphere

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:01 pm
by Basra-
:shock: U mean to tell me there are 25000 prophets?? Why werent they mentioned in the Quran? I dont believe this. I believe only the prophets mentioned in the Quran are the real prophets. Not sure why the babylon descendants were chosen to be given religion. But my understanding is-- religion progressed with time. Each generation was delivered a book, taurat, injiil, and Quran. My question is--why was Quran--compilation of all books -not sent out at once. I suppose as Humanity lived, they began to act certain way or certain sins and the Quran---as it is like --LAW---kept on being updated, even though it was then known as taurat, injiin and finally Quran. Just like today, Laws--that exist today did not exist 10 years ago. Like Internet child pornography--therefore this tells me that-- We as humanbeings --have free will to do sins. Nothing is predetermined. By virtue, Quran having been decreed to us through installments...tells us that--Quran merely exists due to us humanbeings benefit and actions, we need a law book to tell us what is right and what is wrong. :clap:


Dr.....i noticed your map didnt show China. IN quran we r encouraged to seek knowledge as far China, therefore-- this will tell u that--it was our mentioned Prophets duties to bring diin to humans, and muslims duties is to spread to others. That is how Islam travelled and spread fast. Today, Muslims are hardly muslims themselves. :roll:

Re: why GOD(allah) did not send rasuul to the western hemisphere

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:07 pm
by Cinque Mtume
Kambala wrote:
DR-YALAXOOW wrote:pangea was 500 million years ago, and all prophets and even humans come this planet much much later.
If that's so, then it would mean humans in the Western hemisphere had a different origin other than Adam. I mean, traveling through the Atlantic or Pacific ocean to reach the Western hemisphere wasn't possible until a few thousands or (several hundreds) years ago. How do you suggest people traveled through the Atlantic/Pacific ocean to reach the Western hemisphere?

Are you f-king stupid?