ciidangale is Ogaaden

[Abdi-Samatar]

Arawello, Ciidangale waaligiin dagal kuma garaysiin keep dreaming on that is why we are in your land today all of northern hawd.
and what H.Y are you talking about? you never fought H.Y as a whole but a sub clan.









Duulaankii Dayax Weerar iyo Caalya 1904

Horaantii qarnigii hore (1904) mudo lagu qiyaaso ayaa waxa dhacay weeraar u ku qaaday Wadaadkii Waalnaa iyo budhcad u watay reero Ciidagale ah. Weeraarkas waxa lagu magacaabay "Dayax Werrar" goor habeenimo ah bay ahayd iyo dagaal dhuumasho ah. Goobtaas waxay ku dhaceen dooxatadii la odhan jiray "Daraawiishta" 2000 oo halaad , ninka abaanduulaa ka ahaa geel qaadkana waxa la odhan jiray Shariif Cabdullaahi Shariif Cumar oo ahaa reerka Ashraaf la yidhaahdo.Waxa "oday ka sheekee" ahaan nagu soo gaadhay inu ina Cabdalle Xasan geel qaadkaas ka xumaa oo aanay marna talada ugu jirin in Suldaan Diiriye oo markaas ay xidid ahayeen sidu isagu sheegtay aanu taas ka qabin, inkastoo Suldaan Diiriye annu dhinacna Daarood ka soo gelin , hese yeeshe waxa laga yaabaa in ehelkiisu ka qabeen, wuxu yidhi ina Duuflaalku isagoo ka calaacalaya arinkaas:


Duuflaalkii:


Ciidagale ma daaroo,
an danqabi maayo;
Duubiyey calaamayn,
Diiriyaanu xididnoo;
Dayax weerar jeer hore
rag baa igu dukhuuloo.


Aw Jaamac Cabdi Ciise, Taariikhda Daraawiishta page 29.


Heyssheee geelii ma soo celin, wuxunu kala talaabay Shabeele oo Ogaadeen (Ammaadin) Suldaankooda ayuu Ina cabdilaahi Xasan gabadh ku weydiistay. Suldaankii Ogaadeen ayaa diiday geel ana ahayn geelii Ciidagale laga soo dhacay inu gabadha yarad uga qaato. Wadaadkii waa kala dardaarmoo wuxu yidhi Ciidagale geela waa ka daba iman doonaane geelaa kale qaado. Suldaankii Ogadeen baa yidhi "Ciidagale oo Shabeele noo dhexeeyo halkay ii soo mari " geelii sidaas buu Ogadeen ugu gacan galay.Ciidagale waxay geellii daydayaanba mudu ka dib ayuu Maxamuud Ducaale Suldaan Guuleed soo ogaaday halku geelii ku danbeeyay, Maxamuud Ducaale wuxu ahaa nin taariikh mug ah ku dhex lehaa Isaaqa , wuxu ahaa nin ay rag faro badani ku dhaadan jireen waxay walaalo ahaayen Nuur Ducaale Dhagacun iyo Qawdhan Ducaale , wuxu ahaa nin hada iyo jeer laga bilaabi 1870-1910kii ka dhex muuqan jiray maansooyinka iyo dagaalada , geesigii iyo gabyaagii weynaa ee Xuseen Xasan waa ninku tebey markii Berbera lagu xidhay 1889kii: marku lahaa :


Suldaankiyo cuqaashii miyaan sixin khabaarkayga


Saaxiibkey Maxamuud miyaa seegay marinkiisa


Isagaase xaajada sirgaxan saababayn jiraye


Sahlanaa amuurteydu sow lalama sooyaamo.


Nuur Suldaan Faarax Suldaan Guuleed "Nuur Tayo" ooy isku jiil ahaayeen ayaa waagi u saldanada waayay ee ka dibna la boqray suldaan Diiriye Suldaan Xasan (1877kii) isagoo 15 jir ah , ayaa isagoo saluugsan wiilka yar ee u adeerka u yahay ee laga doortay ayaa isagoo suldaan Diiriye na duraya Ciidagale na la hadlaya isagoo markaas le hadii aan anigu talin lahaa sidan ma noqteen iyo hadii Maxamuud la waayo yaa reerka u talin , wuxu yidhi:


Haday alalegti aniga tahay lama idlaadeene
Geelii irdaha weyn lahaa inaba yaa daajin
Isha baryada yaa idinla tagi arinka liitooba
Maxamuud hadii iilka la dhigo yaa armin doona

Maxamuud wuxu ahaa ninkaas ku caan baxay talada, Maxamuud Ducaale oo d'a ah ayaa ku dardaaramay in geela naawlistiisa looga dhigo abaanduule isagoo waagaas d'a ahaa ,sidii baana loo yeelay . Geelii Webiga daashiisa baa laga soo qaaday Ogaadeenkii , 200 iyo 1000 kale oo dheeraad ah. Geeraarkan dheer ayuu Xaye Galaydh mariyay ka dib markii geela la soo qaaday isagoo kana mid ahaa gaaskii geela soo qaaday. Xaye geeraarkan wuxu kaga sheekaynayaa meelahay geela la soo mareen oo dhan iyo goobahay ku jareen Ogadeenkay geela ka soo maroorsadeen. Geelaas wuxu ahaa geelii la magac baxay "Caalya".


Geeraar waa nin godkiisiyo


Garanaaya higaadiiyo


Nin libaax ku gullaalo


Gabi oodan jafaayoo


Sidii goodir haraadoo


Aar gabnii laga laayoo


Goortii Aadmigu seexday


Guux hadaan ledi waaye


Afartaan isu geeyey


Maan gollaana ka sheego


Iyadoo gallimaadiyo


Naloo geeystay waxyeeloo


Oo gogoshii qaban weynay


Kuwii soo gatay moodka


War ma la noo galbiyeenoo


Faqi noo go'ay maanta


Faran geela ku raagiyo


Gadaanley wada buuxdiyo


Ma la gaadhnay sibraarka


Geeddigii u horeeyey


Goolmadooobiyo Quus


Galabtii ma marnay


Geeddigii ka dambeeyay


Daroor maw gudubnoo


Geela mawgu qalnay


Geeddigii ka dameeyay


Colkiiyoo kala giigoo


Xaajadii gudahiisa


Ninba meel ka goldoonay


Guurtidaanu u soocniyo


Garyaqanku ma fiirshoo


Geesigii Maxamuud


Guddoonkii ma ku deyney


Gaashaan dheeg wiyileedloo


Ma guud saarnay caleentoo


Sidii gaalka Talyaani


Gaardi mayskula meernay


Geeddigii ka dambeeyey


Gigadii Qorituur


Gaado aanu ku laynay


Reer Dhagood maku giirtay?


Geeddigii ka dambeeyey


Gadhka Waadhida-Heela


Awrku maw gelin daaqay


Geeddigii ka dambeeyey


Galka Dhiito dusheeda


Caanihii hasha geydhiyo


Galaan maysku biyeynoogalxood maysla noqdeen


Geeddigii ka dambeeyey


Sida roobka Gu'Soora


Gaatan meel xeradeeda


Ma guulaamo dhaqaaqnay


Geeddigii ka dambeeyay


Geligii Cillanaa


Gaadiidkaanu ku laynay


Gaajadii ma ku reebnay


Geedigii ka dambeyay


Nin doonaa ha gunuufee


Gurmad hayska mareenoo


Ha gees qaado digniintuye


Godka Aw Cali jiifiyo


Kolkaannu Heele? gudbayney


Inaanan gabanaynin


Gunti mayska helnay.


Geeddigii ka dambeeyey


Galbeed masu majiirnoo


Geela naawilidiisa


Guclaroor ma ahayn


Geeddigii ka dambeeyay


XidhGalool ma ahaynoo


Fardaha maw galgalsiinay


Geeddigii ka dambeyey


Galladiid dhinaceeda


Gawaantii la fadhiistay


Geesaa maw kala boodnoo


Goohu maysu baxaayey


Geeddigii ka dambeeyey


Kolkaanu gaanka Hudduudo


Golaneyney biyaa??


Leexadii cirka gaadhay


Galawgu iyo Fiintu


Galiyaay ma ku waashay


Geeddigii ka dambeeyay


Gooradiisa ma qaadnoo


Sidii gaas ma maraynoo


Garbo maw hadhasaneynay


Geedigii ka ambeeyey


Meel guyaal laga raagoo


Baryo ood lagu gooyniyo


Taliskii? dadka gooyiyo


Guuto loogu casuumay


Ma guullay habeennoo


Midhaa maw guranaynay


Geeddigii ka dambeeyey


Gudihii Webigii iyo (Shabeele)


Gudcurkay fadhiyeen


Arrinkaanu gorfaynay


Gaadiidka naga reebiyo


Guul inoogu dhaqaaajiyo


Inoo gaabsha dhawaaqiyo


Guhaad maysku aloosnay


Geeddigii ka dambeeyay


Habeenkaas gidigiis


Gucleroor ma ahayn


Geeddigii ka dambeyay


Kolku waagu guduutay


Annkoo gildhigii iyo


Isu geynay rasaasta


Weerarkii gigta yeedhay


Gurmad aaran kaxeeyoo?.......................


Geeddigii ka dambeeyay


Geelu haysu yimaadee


Xigsin maysku garaacnoo


Ul Galool maku taagnay


Geeddigii ka dambeeyay


Kuwii Goodir liskeediyo


Galxoodkeeda dhamaayay


Geetaan kaanu ka reebnay


Gamiguuu curanaaya


Gega mayska arkeenoo


Madhiinkii gurxamaayiyo


Gooska maysla abaarnay


Goda-xiis dabadeeda


Ma gogleeyey Tukuu


Geeddigii ka dameeyay


Iyadoo Gesiluub?


Gaashaankii nagu raacdoo


Gubad qiiqii la moodo


Durba maysla galcoonoo


Ka Gar mays daba joogtay


Geeddigii ka dambeeyay


Habeenkaa garbiyaay iyo


Gudimooyin u qaatiyo


Guri looma haleelee


Intoo laysu gadaamay


Gardiidkay cararaysay


Gujo mawgu labaynay


Geeddigii ka dambeeyey


Goolibaadhkiyo faylkiyo


Siidhigii gantamaayay


Gaadhba mays dalbanaayey


Geeddigii ka dambeeyay


Habeenkaa gidigii iyo


Gadoobkey Ledo yeedhayiyo


Garridaannu tubanayniyo


Goobo Dhoobiyo baana


Ma gariiray dhulkii


Geeddigii ka dambeeyay


Geelashay dhaqaayeen


Gaajadii ma ku reebnay


Geedigii ka dambeeyay


Ayaxoo gala waabshiyo


Sidii geed timireedka


Iyadoo gudguduudan


Gabnaa loo tirinaayo


Dhaankii mawla galnay


Geeddigii ka dambeeyay


Waa rag soo guddi laabtay


Gabalkoo ...............


Garab-weynta candhaysito


Gannabaa rati qoodh iyo


Gocaydii la lisaayiyo


Gurboodkii yaryaraa iyo


Kolba goosan ma soocnoo


Ma loo goostay qoryaa


Gujiyey oo iska dhaafee


Raga qaar hal godobeediyo


Hanoo geysto canaanoo


Intii gaal na cabiidshee


Gammankii naga oodmay


Rag dagaalka ka guulmiyo


Hana moodo gobtoodoo


Geedaa ... ku yaaliyo


Garxoor haw sahansheeno


Oo ganuunkaan ka jibeeniyo
Kolbay geel ha na jiidhee


Annagooo ganna mooyee


Walee gaadh nabadeed


Baan gudub loo wadaa seexan

[Abdi-Samatar]

Arawello, and let me remind you this Qaboojiso chick is not Isaaq let alone Ciidangale , Ciidangale are proud sons of Reer Ismaaciil Bini Isxaaq bin Ahmed and Somalilanders not like confused Sacads.

[Queen_Arawello]

Abdi-Samatar stop regurgitating nonsense, it's well known that the habaryoonis and the Ciidagale who were armed by the british still suffered many consecutive defeats and were pushed back as far as Hargeisa, today 50% of ciidagale settles in hargeisa. My sub-clan Reer Isaaq gave the garxajis good-ass-whooping...a fellow ciidagale poet said this to the habaryoonis when they were defeated by Reer Isaaq:

waayadanba habaryonisbaa, wahabku saarnaaye
wadaaddada halkii lagu diliyo, Eegi waraqeeda
wareegada hadday ugu qalaan, waadhidii Xananley
oon sida dabaylaha wacdiga, weerarku is dhaafin
ay Waaxley mariyaan colkii, webiga jiidhaayey

markalena wuxuu yidhi isla abwaankii ciidagale:

siday caawa habaryoonis tahay, diidyay ciidagale ee.

[Queen_Arawello]

Abdi-Samatar aka Ducaysane your usual cantarbaqash baa meesha la wareegeysa..bring as many gabay as you like but the fact that a small sub clan of ogadeen reached the out skirts of hargeisa, tormented the H.Y and Ciidagale,taken 20,000 of your camels and feed ur decomposed bodies to the hyena is known to all somalis..wax ka calaacal badan iyo ka cabaad weyn Isaaq alle ima tusin It has been proven time and time again that caagdhers are the lions of the hawd for the past 8 centuries and we are very proud of our record

The ciidagale la sheego used be slaves for arab, and ur so called mighty HY were embarassed by Isa Musa of Habar Awal that forced u out of Berbera

[Abdi-Samatar]

Arawello, come on now you are acting childish maxa Isaaqa kale meesha so dheex galiyey?



Arap kulaha? i don't want to badmouth Arap laakinse , Arap has always been a smaller shadow of Ciidagale and never really posed any danger, as for Cisse muse kicking us out of berbera are you talking about the 1990s? , at that time it wasn't really H.Y face Cisse muse but rather a sub clan of H.Y aka Muse Carreh the Militia of Tuur even at that time Samaroon had to negotiate for Tuur to hand over berbera port.



i don't even think we should be debating about this
the fact that in the 1990s - 1997 period it was Garxajis against all the other Isaaqs + Hartis + Samaroon+ Hired Oromo Mercenaries proofs Garxajis strenght and military endurance in war times should be a enough proof.



marka stop the calaacal whatever you are trying to proof it doesn't matter today most of your Northern Hawd Frontier is gone thanks to awoowe Sicid iyo Daud.

[Abdi-Samatar]

here it is , the Cisse muse you are talking about didn't even have the balls to confront H.Y face to face they had to sneak behind when two H.Y sub clans were fighting each other.


marka don't chat shit about things you don't know nothing about.




Searching for Peace - Somaliland

Burao and Berbera Conflicts"

"Tensions were by this time mounting between erstwhile allies within the SNM. An underlying issue was the
succession for the Presidency, to which Abdulrahman ‘Tuur’, as Chairman of the SNM, had been appointed
in Burao. ‘Tuur’s’ mandate was due to expire in May 1992, and Habar Awal (Sa’ad Musa and Esa Musa)
felt that it was their turn (Gilkes, 1992: 13). Also at issue was control of Berbera port, and the port duties
collected there (ibid). ‘Tuur’ inflamed the situation by sacking a number of members of his government
(primarily from the Habar Je’lo), while his plans to draw clan militia together into a united national army were
viewed with suspicion by many (Bryden and Farah, 1996: 8)14. The tension escalated into a week of fighting
in Burao between Habar Je’lo and Habar Yoonis militia in January. Then, in May, ‘Tuur’ ordered Sa’ad Musa
units of the army to Berbera to prevent a renegade Esa Musa colonel, Abdullahi ‘Degaweine’, from entering
the port city. Both being Habar Awal, the Esa Musa refused and ‘Tuur’ was forced to send a Habar Yoonis
force instead. This was seen by the Habar Awal as a Habar Yoonis invasion, and inflamed the situation to
breaking point (Gilkes, 1992: 13).
Initially, Degaweine was keen to avoid direct confrontation, pulling back to Sheekh. However, when a minor
dispute between two Habar Yoonis sub-clans resulted in the assassination of a Habar Yoonis suldaan in
August, he took advantage of their weakened position in Berbera and re-entered the city, also securing the
road halfway to Hargeisa. As a result, the government was deprived of its primary source of income in the
form of port duties, and opposition to ‘Tuur’s’ administration had grown to encompass groups from a diverse
array of clans (Gilkes, 1992: 13-14). It is important to note that much of the conflict occurred within the
SNM, between clan-affiliated militia factions, but that this frequently did not translate into popular clan-based
support for these militia groups (Rashid Gadhweyne and Yusuf Sha’iir in APD, 2007b). ‘Tuur’s’ Gadabuursi
Minister of Education, Abdirahman Aw Ali, and a multi-clan collection of five cabinet colleagues resigned from
the government in protest at the escalating crisis (Aw Ali Farah, 2007a, lines 245-251), and conflicts within
Habar Yoonis grew more heated. By September, Degaweine was threatening to march on Hargeisa, and
the government’s control had become clearly tenuous. Lootings, shootings and petty violence had become
frequent in Hargeisa and it was clear that the situation would soon come to a head (Gilkes, 1992: 14).
In response to the situation, a peace committee known as Kulanka (meaning simply ‘the meeting’) was
convened in October, 1992 in Berbera. The group was comprised of 30 individuals, selected in equal
numbers from the Government and opposition groups. The Kulanka agreed that Berbera’s port, airport and
fuel storage depots should be placed under government control. However, this agreement was rejected by
Esa Musa leaders in Berbera, who argued that all public facilities in the country, including Hargeisa Airport,
which was controlled by the ‘Iidagalle (from the Garhajis, and therefore close allies of Habar Yoonis), should
13 A translation of the elders’ resolutions is available on page 33.
14 A number of more detailed conflicts are recounted by witnesses as occurring in Burao between SNM militia factions associated with Habar Yoonis and Habar
Je’lo, mostly involving petty disputes over weapons (Rashid Gadweyne, Yusuf Shaa’ir and Abdillahi in APD,
20 The Search for Peace
similarly come under the control of the Government (WSP-International, 2005: 62). The Gadabuursi Guurti
offered to mediate between the factions, in support of the Esa Musa position that all clans should handover
public facilities to the government. Their initiative was accepted by all the parties to Kulanka. This was the
second time in living memory (the first having been in the 1950s) that a Gadabuursi group had mediated
in a dispute between Isaaq clans (Aw Ali Farah, 2007a, lines 281-282). It reflected the work of individuals
within the Gadabuursi, and in particular that of Abdirahman Aw Ali, to utilise the relative neutrality imparted
by their status as non-Isaaq to further reconciliation between Northern clans (Aw Ali Farah, 2007a; WSPInternational,
2005: 62).
Also, in October, and after much initial resistance, the government agreed that 750 UNOSOM troops would
be placed in Berbera and at Hargeisa airport; some believe the government was persuaded that that this
might lead to international recognition (Gilkes, 1992: 13-14). The Kulanka agreement and the promise of
UN troops helped to calm the situation, assisted by preparations for another reconciliation conference in
the town of Sheekh."

[Queen_Arawello]

Abdi-Samatar the Cisse muse you are talking about didn't even have the balls to confront H.Y face to face they had to sneak behind when two H.Y sub clans were fighting each other

stop making excuses youe entire H.Y clan were chased out of Berbera by cisse muse, cagacagaf aya la mariyay and u wanna brag about how mighty u are

[Boodh iyo Torre]

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[Boodh iyo Torre]

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[CoolPoisons]

Cidagalena yee yihin

[Abdi-Samatar]

boodh iyo Toore inaanta ka qale she is just messing about.


is it's ridiculous of her to even talk about the kings of Isaaq (Ciidagale) who ruled the family with iron fist, Reer Guleed.

[Abdi-Samatar]

Abdi-Samatar the Cisse muse you are talking about didn't even have the balls to confront H.Y face to face they had to sneak behind when two H.Y sub clans were fighting each other

stop making excuses youe entire H.Y clan were chased out of Berbera by cisse muse, cagacagaf aya la mariyay and u wanna brag about how mighty u are

come on this is getting absurd have you got some kind of reading comprehension problems? i already provided you the source that it was Samaroon that negotiated with Tuur AUN to hand over berbera port, Tuur's militia controlled berbera for 6 months before samaroon negotiating for them to make it a national property, Ma garatay?.

[ToughGong]

Cidagalena yee yihin

THE NIGHTMARE OF OGADEN

[CoolPoisons]

Cidagalena yee yihin

THE NIGHTMARE OF OGADEN

seemeyer waan ku salaamay marka kowaad

marka labaad, juffo IIdor aan waligi la maqlin sidee u barbar dhigi karta Beelweynta Ogaden who are the bigger than all IIdor combined?

bal ii sharax

[ToughGong]

Cidagalena yee yihin

THE NIGHTMARE OF OGADEN

seemeyer waan ku salaamay marka kowaad

marka labaad, juffo IIdor aan waligi la maqlin sidee u barbar dhigi karta Beelweynta Ogaden who are the bigger than all IIdor combined?

bal ii sharax

WAAN KAA QAADEY INADEER SHISHEEYE
IT'S A PARADOX I KNOW BUT IT'S A FACT CIIDAGALE WHO IS ONLY A SUB CLAN OF THE MIGHTY IDOOR NATION CAN CAUSE SUCH HAVOC