How Many of You Support the Current Somali 'Dawlad'....?
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Re: How Many of You Support the Current Somali 'Dawlad'....?
Every Somali should support the TFG regardless of their clan affiliation. Al Shabaab imbeciles will take Somalia back to stone age and make Peshawar, the new capital of Somalia. Total eradication of those fools is in order.
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Re: How Many of You Support the Current Somali 'Dawlad'....?
I support this govt,but at the same time acknowledge that it is very weak and has many problems.
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Re: How Many of You Support the Current Somali 'Dawlad'....?
The government just needs a strong western partner to bomb the shit out of alshabaab. To end this insurgencyHutuKing01 wrote:I support this govt,but at the same time acknowledge that it is very weak and has many problems.
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Re: How Many of You Support the Current Somali 'Dawlad'....?
khalid ali wrote:The government just needs a strong western partner to bomb the shit out of alshabaab. To end this insurgencyHutuKing01 wrote:I support this govt,but at the same time acknowledge that it is very weak and has many problems.
You really think the western will do that?
Only if a shabaabmadman commits suicideattack in the usa or uk,then they will take action.Aslong that does not happen,they see this as somali problem.
They and the arabs are not sincere in their promises.
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Re: How Many of You Support the Current Somali 'Dawlad'....?
the westerners bombed the mujahedeen..back in 2006 while using xabashi slaves attacking them from the ground..but they still survived and have achieved victory up on victory..they put all their trust in allah.while you put all your trust on gaalo..thats why your likes will forever remain failure..khalid ali wrote:The government just needs a strong western partner to bomb the shit out of alshabaab. To end this insurgencyHutuKing01 wrote:I support this govt,but at the same time acknowledge that it is very weak and has many problems.
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Re: How Many of You Support the Current Somali 'Dawlad'....?
Abdi,
So I take it Shabaab may have done us a service in the long run if more people genuinely started thinking like that. I am an eternal optimist, InshaAllah we will have a democratic Islamic government as a result of this factional/ideological war.
So I take it Shabaab may have done us a service in the long run if more people genuinely started thinking like that. I am an eternal optimist, InshaAllah we will have a democratic Islamic government as a result of this factional/ideological war.
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Re: How Many of You Support the Current Somali 'Dawlad'....?
Impossible.gedo_gurl wrote:Abdi,
So I take it Shabaab may have done us a service in the long run if more people genuinely started thinking like that. I am an eternal optimist, InshaAllah we will have a democratic Islamic government as a result of this factional/ideological war.
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Re: How Many of You Support the Current Somali 'Dawlad'....?
May, its not impossible, the only reason they would fail is if they only created one as a reaction to the West (rather than a solution to failing current system) and if they willfully/misguidedly tortured their civilians with a sick Arabised version of the religious laws.
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Re: How Many of You Support the Current Somali 'Dawlad'....?
GedoGurl,
Culema should not be governing at all beyond the Ministry of Religion. When religion is mixed in with ambitions of men, you create a disaster of the worst type as evidenced in today's Somalia.
Culema should not be governing at all beyond the Ministry of Religion. When religion is mixed in with ambitions of men, you create a disaster of the worst type as evidenced in today's Somalia.
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Re: How Many of You Support the Current Somali 'Dawlad'....?
I meant a 'democratic Islamic government' is a contradiction in terms.
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Re: How Many of You Support the Current Somali 'Dawlad'....?
There are many different types of Democracy. An Islamic democracy can be attained through many avenues e.g. not giving all the power to the culemaa, but rather having them as a part of a wider judiciary.Mad May wrote:I meant a 'democratic Islamic government' is a contradiction in terms.
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Re: How Many of You Support the Current Somali 'Dawlad'....?
Abdi, I disagree, many laws were created through religion and I think they serve us well. Islam is a system of laws on how we should live our lives, if we were allowed to have some input as to how we implement them and they are each scrutinised and vetted before we put them down as law, it would succeed, its the gung ho attitude that ruins the process . Yes, I agree that it is a deadly combination,beyond the Al Shabaab problem, why cant we have Islamic laws as part of our constitution?AbdiWahab252 wrote:GedoGurl,
Culema should not be governing at all beyond the Ministry of Religion. When religion is mixed in with ambitions of men, you create a disaster of the worst type as evidenced in today's Somalia.
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Re: How Many of You Support the Current Somali 'Dawlad'....?
anyone who supports this foreign imposed treacherous gov is a traitor. period.
Re: How Many of You Support the Current Somali 'Dawlad'....?
"I don't care"
...about this lame government, because just like the one before it and the one before that, they are all based on a SYSTEM which disqualifies them from even being considered as governments, in terms of our Somali standards, which looking at the Kacaan seems PRETTY high.
now i do not study political science
but in simple terms i am sure governments mainly consist of 1. policy makers 2. policy implementers
now forget number two, because this so called government based on a destructive SYSTEM has neither the interest nor the intellectual capacity to implement its policies. this just leaves number one, making disastrous policies, engaging in wars, prompting media fraudulence and among many other things it increases the country's debt.
for example, do you know this government is borrowing money which not only encourages foreign dependence preliminary to a poverty-trap, it also, according to the international monetary system forces future tax payers in Somalia to pay for all this crap.
so what is this borrowed money spend on? foreign soldiers who rape and kill regardless "to keep their base safe".
WELCOME to Neo-colonialism
by the way you said Somali goverment, thats not plural, where do you leave Somaliland and Puntland? both being delicately exploited whiles obediently favouring orders which corrupts their land and extradites their people to Uncle Ethiopia
...about this lame government, because just like the one before it and the one before that, they are all based on a SYSTEM which disqualifies them from even being considered as governments, in terms of our Somali standards, which looking at the Kacaan seems PRETTY high.
now i do not study political science
now forget number two, because this so called government based on a destructive SYSTEM has neither the interest nor the intellectual capacity to implement its policies. this just leaves number one, making disastrous policies, engaging in wars, prompting media fraudulence and among many other things it increases the country's debt.
for example, do you know this government is borrowing money which not only encourages foreign dependence preliminary to a poverty-trap, it also, according to the international monetary system forces future tax payers in Somalia to pay for all this crap.
so what is this borrowed money spend on? foreign soldiers who rape and kill regardless "to keep their base safe".
WELCOME to Neo-colonialism
by the way you said Somali goverment, thats not plural, where do you leave Somaliland and Puntland? both being delicately exploited whiles obediently favouring orders which corrupts their land and extradites their people to Uncle Ethiopia
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Re: How Many of You Support the Current Somali 'Dawlad'....?
khalid ali wrote:I support any one who is against the khawarajis, but this government is to weak. Abdiwahaab is right qeybdid for president 2011 isaga boqol kitaab ku dharanaya oo wadda leenaya dhiigooda ku dabalanaya
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