Stoning to Death

[DR-YALAXOOW]

there is no a singel ayah in quran whichs says stoning people for adultry, both sura noor and sura nisaa in the quran says those who commit adultry whit 4 witnesses their bunishment is 100 lashes. even you can not give a 100 lashes whit out 4 witnesses.
Stoning for adultry is from the YAHUUD bibel TOORAA or old testement and the christian bibel. so stoning for adultry is unislamic act.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Stoning someone is impossible because 4 persons should be witness of the accused person doing zina.
I dont think any sane person will go to the crazy shabaab and tell them what happened.Shabaab and xisbulsheytan only stones people from the minority clans.


There was this story between two sahaba, one sahabi accused the other of committing the sin. Umar r.a lashed the one who accused other because he did not bring 4 witness.

[Lil_Cutie..]

As Muslims following Ahlu Sunnah, we take from two sources; QURAN & SUNNAH.

Anyone who takes the Quran on it's own, is tredding on a wrong path. We must take from the Sunnah aswell.
For example; in the Qur'an it does not say pray 5 times a day, neither does it tell us how to pray. We know how to pray and get allll of that from the beautiful Sunnah of our beloved Messenger Prophet Muhammad sallalahu waaliyhim wassalam. Through his actions, his behaviour we can uphold the laws of Allah. Walhamdulilah. We know the Punishment of Zina, Adultary because the Prophet told us. He made it specific but it also has conditions.

“It is He Who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth that He make it prevail over all religion. Even though the Pagans may detest (it).”(61:9)


“Say: “If ye do love Allâh , follow me: Allâh will love you and forgive you your sins: for Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” Say: “Obey Allâh and His Messenger”: But if they turn back, Allâh loves not those who reject Faith.” (3:31-32)


“O mankind! The Messenger has come to you in truth from Allâh : believe in him: it is best for you. But if you reject Faith, to Allâh belong all things in the heavens and on earth: and Allâh is All-knowing, All Wise. (4:170)


“O you who believe! Obey Allâh , and obey the Messenger, and make not vain your deeds!”(47:33)


“O you who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Chastisement? That you believe in Allâh and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allâh , with your wealth and your persons: that will be best for you, if you but knew! (61:10-11)

Likewise, we can not take an ayat from the Qur'an and come to our own conclusion. The Tafsir, and the Hadiths are there to help us. And who are the people of Hadith? (and essentially the ones that lived during the revelation) the Sahaba's who explained the verses..

The Shariah is the Law of Allah. Accept it, if you have a problem with it you have a problem with your religion. How the Qur'an and Sunnah relate to one another and issues of abrogated verses, sunan's are all part of FIQH and USOOL.. But InshaAllah study the principles and foundations of FIQH (Jurisprudence), it's a beautiful subject.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

As Muslims following Ahlu Sunnah, we take from two sources; QURAN & SUNNAH.

Anyone who takes the Quran on it's own, is tredding on a wrong path. We must take from the Sunnah aswell.
For example; in the Qur'an it does not say pray 5 times a day, neither does it tell us how to pray. We know how to pray and get allll of that from the beautiful Sunnah of our beloved Messenger Prophet Muhammad sallalahu waaliyhim wassalam. Through his actions, his behaviour we can uphold the laws of Allah. Walhamdulilah. We know the Punishment of Zina, Adultary because the Prophet told us. He made it specific but it also has conditions.

“It is He Who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth that He make it prevail over all religion. Even though the Pagans may detest (it).”(61:9)


“Say: “If ye do love Allâh , follow me: Allâh will love you and forgive you your sins: for Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” Say: “Obey Allâh and His Messenger”: But if they turn back, Allâh loves not those who reject Faith.” (3:31-32)


“O mankind! The Messenger has come to you in truth from Allâh : believe in him: it is best for you. But if you reject Faith, to Allâh belong all things in the heavens and on earth: and Allâh is All-knowing, All Wise. (4:170)


“O you who believe! Obey Allâh , and obey the Messenger, and make not vain your deeds!”(47:33)


“O you who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Chastisement? That you believe in Allâh and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allâh , with your wealth and your persons: that will be best for you, if you but knew! (61:10-11)

Likewise, we can not take an ayat from the Qur'an and come to our own conclusion. The Tafsir, and the Hadiths are there to help us. And who are the people of Hadith? (and essentially the ones that lived during the revelation) the Sahaba's who explained the verses..

The Shariah is the Law of Allah. Accept it, if you have a problem with it you have a problem with your religion. How the Qur'an and Sunnah relate to one another and issues of abrogated verses, sunan's are all part of FIQH and USOOL.. But InshaAllah study the principles and foundations of FIQH (Jurisprudence), it's a beautiful subject.

Quran clearly whit out differentiation says those who commit adultery whit 4 witnesses their punishment is 100 lashes. not once but twice in sura noor and sura nisaa. then if you come up whit hadiith which totally contradicts what allah says whichs(100 lashes) if A hadiith contradicts that and says( kill the person) then that hadiith is 1000% false because you can see its contradicting what allah said( quraan). hadiith can only explain how that 100 lashes will look like or what kind of instrument will you use when your giving lashes to a convicted adulterer. but if you come up hadiith which says kill those who commit adultery and quran says 100 lashes then the quran will be n 1 becouse quran is what allah said.

its stupidy of THOSE who claime STONED people to death is in islam, they make excuse that quran never said you have to pray 5 times a day. YOU SEE quran says you have to pray and if you have hadiith which says pray 5 times then that hadiith is not contradicting what allah said whichs(pray) hadiith only explains it.
but if you come up whit hadiith whichs says do not pray so that hadiith is becomes contradiction, and its same KILL bye stoning those who commit adultery and QURAN SAYS give them 100 lashes ITS TOTTALY 2 DIFFRENT THINKS(LASHES VS KILL THEM) . so you see that's contradiction.
quran never says stone to death someone who commit adultery, its from the bibel which says stone to death those who commit zinaaa . so we are not Christians we are Muslims, so we have to fellow what quran says whichs do not stone people for adultery.

[Goljano Lion]

DR-YALAXOOW
so stoning to death comes from Hadiix sources, not from the quraan, where is shaikh Hyper when we need him to clarify this issue

[DR-YALAXOOW]

DR-YALAXOOW
so stoning to death comes from Hadiix sources, not from the quraan, where is shaikh Hyper when we need him to clarify this issue

quran never says stone people for adultry. si cad oo aan leex leexad laheeyn ayuu quraanka u yiri qofkii zineeysta oo 4 qafoood marqaati ah loo helo waa in 100 karbaash lagu dhuftaa.

markaaseey so called sheikhs la yimaadeen hadiith ka hor imaanaya taas oo oranaya qofka waa inaad dhagax ku dishaan. xitaa sheekhyo soomaali ah sida UMUL ayaa yiri QURAANKA AAYAD laga ilaawey ayaa jirta oo sheegeysa in dhagax lagu dilo qofkii zineeysata( subxaana allah) ma allah ayaa wax ilaaawa. allah ayaaba inoo sheegay in quraanka uu yahay KAAAAMIL aan waxba laga ilaaawin.

daliiisha ay u soo daliishadeeen quraanka aayadiii RAJMIGA(DHAGAX KU DILADA) ee laga ilaaawey waa ANOTHER XADIIITH kaasoo dhahaya CUMAR BINU KHADAAB RC ayaa yiri AAYADAAS rajmiga anagaa joogney markeey soo dageysay anagaa xafidney.

TAAS micnaheedu waa maxay? micnaheedu waa quraanka ayey isku dayayaan inay sidii BIBELKA wax ku darsadaaan oo yiraahdaaaan AYAAADAN ayaa laga ilaaweee xadiis ayaa noo sheegee ku dara.

subxaana allah.

waxay kaloo dadka ogeeeyn XADIISYADA dadkii aruuriyey sida BUKHAARI IYO muslim waxay noolaayeen 200 sano ka dib rasuuulka scw geeridisii. tusaaaale BUKHAARI wuxuu aruuriyey hadiisyo gaaraya boqolaaal kun. boqolaalkii kun dhamaantood wuu wada tuurey sababtooo ah 200 sano ka dib geeridii rasuulka maadaaba uu dhashey inay saxiix yihiin ma uuusan ogaan karin wuxuu ka soo qaatey kaliya 1500 hadiith. marka kun iyo shantaa boqol xitaaa waa 100% for sure inay ka buuxaan hadiisyo been abuur ah ama so called hadiiisyo aan saxiix aheeyn.

marka dadka taageera STONING DHAGAX KU DILIDA waxyba ogeeyn in sheekadan DHAGAX KU DILIDA ay ku taaal BIBELKA kristaanka. marka suaasha waa bibelka wax ku yaala oo aan quraanka ku oolin miyaan raacnaa?

waa yaabka yaabkiisee

[Goljano Lion]

DR-YALAXOOW
so stoning to death comes from Hadiix sources, not from the quraan, where is shaikh Hyper when we need him to clarify this issue

quran never says stone people for adultry. si cad oo aan leex leexad laheeyn ayuu quraanka u yiri qofkii zineeysta oo 4 qafoood marqaati ah loo helo waa in 100 karbaash lagu dhuftaa.

markaaseey so called sheikhs la yimaadeen hadiith ka hor imaanaya taas oo oranaya qofka waa inaad dhagax ku dishaan. xitaa sheekhyo soomaali ah sida UMUL ayaa yiri QURAANKA AAYAD laga ilaawey ayaa jirta oo sheegeysa in dhagax lagu dilo qofkii zineeysata( subxaana allah) ma allah ayaa wax ilaaawa. allah ayaaba inoo sheegay in quraanka uu yahay KAAAAMIL aan waxba laga ilaaawin.

daliiisha ay u soo daliishadeeen quraanka aayadiii RAJMIGA(DHAGAX KU DILADA) ee laga ilaaawey waa ANOTHER XADIIITH kaasoo dhahaya CUMAR BINU KHADAAB RC ayaa yiri AAYADAAS rajmiga anagaa joogney markeey soo dageysay anagaa xafidney.

TAAS micnaheedu waa maxay? micnaheedu waa quraanka ayey isku dayayaan inay sidii BIBELKA wax ku darsadaaan oo yiraahdaaaan AYAAADAN ayaa laga ilaaweee xadiis ayaa noo sheegee ku dara.

subxaana allah.

waxay kaloo dadka ogeeeyn XADIISYADA dadkii aruuriyey sida BUKHAARI IYO muslim waxay noolaayeen 200 sano ka dib rasuuulka scw geeridisii. tusaaaale BUKHAARI wuxuu aruuriyey hadiisyo gaaraya boqolaaal kun. boqolaalkii kun dhamaantood wuu wada tuurey sababtooo ah 200 sano ka dib geeridii rasuulka maadaaba uu dhashey inay saxiix yihiin ma uuusan ogaan karin wuxuu ka soo qaatey kaliya 1500 hadiith. marka kun iyo shantaa boqol xitaaa waa 100% for sure inay ka buuxaan hadiisyo been abuur ah ama so called hadiiisyo aan saxiix aheeyn.

marka dadka taageera STONING DHAGAX KU DILIDA waxyba ogeeyn in sheekadan DHAGAX KU DILIDA ay ku taaal BIBELKA kristaanka. marka suaasha waa bibelka wax ku yaala oo aan quraanka ku oolin miyaan raacnaa?

waa yaabka yaabkiisee

WHERE ARE THE SO CALLED KHAWAAJA SUPPORTER, Can they refute this proof

[DR-YALAXOOW]

quran whichs allah words said

Surah An-Nur, verse 2, it says,” The woman and man guilty of adultery or fornication-flog each of them with a hundred stripes: let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the last day: and let a party of believers witness their punishment”.
This punishment can only be given if the following rules are met. Four reliable witnesses have to give evidence of witnessing adultery taking place. There is a strict punishment for false witnesses, eighty lashes

xitaaa fals marqaati aad tiraahdid sariir ayey isla sifeeen, micnaheedu maaha zino marka waa in qofkaa sidaa yiri isaga 80 karbaash lagu dhuftaa. bal fiiiri QURUXDA ISLAAMKA iyo naxariista allah subxaana watacaala.

maasha allah.

this is what kitaabka sheeydaanka bibel kiristaaanka said about zinaaa

[Deuteronomy 22:23-24] If a man is found sleeping with another man’s wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel. If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death. the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife. You must purge the evil from among you.

Leviticus 20:10-12
10And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

sxb ma quraankaan raacnaa ama buuga gaaalada KIRISTAANKA ayaan raacnaaa??

of course waa inaan quraankeena kalaamka allah aan raacno not buuug been abuur ah bibel la yiraahdo wax ku qoran.

[Goljano Lion]

quran whichs allah words said

Surah An-Nur, verse 2, it says,” The woman and man guilty of adultery or fornication-flog each of them with a hundred stripes: let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the last day: and let a party of believers witness their punishment”.
This punishment can only be given if the following rules are met. Four reliable witnesses have to give evidence of witnessing adultery taking place. There is a strict punishment for false witnesses, eighty lashes

xitaaa fals marqaati aad tiraahdid sariir ayey isla sifeeen, micnaheedu maaha zino marka waa in qofkaa sidaa yiri isaga 80 karbaash lagu dhuftaa. bal fiiiri QURUXDA ISLAAMKA iyo naxariista allah subxaana watacaala.

maasha allah.

this is what kitaabka sheeydaanka bibel kiristaaanka said about zinaaa

[Deuteronomy 22:23-24] If a man is found sleeping with another man’s wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel. If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death. the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife. You must purge the evil from among you.

Leviticus 20:10-12
10And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

sxb ma quraankaan raacnaa ama buuga gaaalada KIRISTAANKA ayaan raacnaaa??

of course waa inaan quraankeena kalaamka allah aan raacno not buuug been abuur ah bibel la yiraahdo wax ku qoran.

Duqa diinta sifiican baad u taqanaa thanks for the info

[Mad May]

kitaabka sheeydaanka bibel

Istagfurullah

[edleh]

I think this is a huge issue that perhaps would be better for some of us to leave it alone; especially when we're not knowledgeable about it. Talking a certain issue wihout you having of its cilmi is a serious thing that could reasonably cause you to cross your limits.

[suga_delic]

kitaabka sheeydaanka bibel

Istagfurullah

hu wrote dat?

[Executive]

Sorry but are some of you "Qurani Muslims"? There are a lot of evidence from Sahiih hadith that the prophet pbuh took parting in stoning adulterers.

Subxanallah you will find this in the book of hadiths.

Al-Bukhaari and Muslim narrated in their Saheehs from Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) that ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “Allaah sent Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) with the truth and revealed to him the Book, and one of the things that Allaah revealed was the verse of stoning. We have read it and understood it. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stoned (adulterers) and we stoned (them) after him, but I fear that there may come a time when some people say: ‘By Allaah, we do not find the verse of stoning in the Book of Allaah.’ So they will go astray by forsaking an obligation that Allaah has revealed. According to the Book of Allaah, stoning is deserved by the one who commits zina, if he is married, men and women alike, if proof is established or the woman becomes pregnant or they confess…”

[Lil_Cutie..]

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) further said: “[Under Islamic laws in an Islamic state] It is not lawful to shed the blood of a Muslim except for one of three sins: a married person committing fornication, and in just retribution for premeditated murder, and [for sin of treason involving] a person renouncing Islam, and thus leaving the community [to join the enemy camp in order to wage war against the faithful].” (Al-Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawud, Tirmidhi, and An-Nasa’i)
The Adulter/ress(a distinction from Zina, in this Hadith it specifies the one that is married, thus making a distinction between Zina and Adultery) life for a life, and the one who leaves Islam. This hadith is collected in All of the major books of ahadiths.
This is the view held by all Companions, Successors and other Muslim scholars.

This is why we should try to learn Arabic, we can not truly understand the book of Allah until we learn the language it was brought down in. Same applies to the hadiths.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

again quran says

Surah An-Nur, verse 2, it says,” The woman and man guilty of adultery or fornication-flog each of them with a hundred stripes: let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the last day: and let a party of believers witness their punishment

quran is a supreme allah word. and it must be our first source of islam. if you come up ahadiith which says kill those who commit adultry then that hadiith is fals hadiith.

and mny of you does not know BUKHAARI and muslim come in to this world about 200 years after prophets rasuul scw DIED(SCW). and stoning for adultry is from christian bibel not from quran. wather you liked or not.

we need aayad quraan oo dhaheysa adultry dhagax ku dila? haddii aadan heeyn islaamka haku been abuuranina.

quraanka si cad aan gangabasho laheeyd ayuu u yiri (ninkii iyo naagtii zina gala) quraanka ma kala saarin WETHER THEY MARRIED OR NOT. marka saaxiibayaal WORD OF ALLAH ayaa meesha yaaal ee oranaya 100 KARBAASH. if you come up whit word of man which says kill them then. WORD OF ALLAH IS OUR NR 1 SOURCE IN ISLAM becouse quran is autentic. but there is thousens of hadiith which are fals ahadiith which means its man made ahadiith. so hadiith which says kill those who commit zinaa is contradicting quran which says just give them 100 lashes

Surah An-Nur, verse 2, it says,” The woman and man guilty of adultery or fornication-flog each of them with a hundred stripes: let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the last day: and let a party of believers witness their punishment

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