Tour of Madinah university

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Hopefuly the rulership of Makkah and Madina comes in the hands of Prophet's descendants(pbuh). They have more right than these people from Al-Najd

[*Nobleman*]

great uni. both my father and uncle graduated from madina university.

Mashallah man, any plans to follow in their footsteps and attend yourself?

Hopefuly the rulership of Makkah and Madina comes in the hands of Prophet's descendants(pbuh). They have more right than these people from Al-Najd

Great thing about Islam is positions is not determined by blood line and lineage, rather piety and knowledge.

[Hyperactive]

no brother, i dont want it.
when i was applying university, i applied many places including madina azhar, shariqa, morocco.
but i found one can study islam without going there and do some thing else useful for the ummah.

ummah doesnt need only ulama but scientists , engeneers, lawyers etc.

[Leila25]

We have too many ulama from working class/poor backgrounds (this affects their interpretation of Islam). It is still largely the case that children who have failed to get into medicine, law etc are sent to Islamic institutions.

[Hyperactive]

We have too many ulama from working class/poor backgrounds (this affects their interpretation of Islam). It is still largely the case that children who have failed to get into medicine, law etc are sent to Islamic institutions.

lol that's not true but it's easy to get into none science majors.
for example if you want to get to majors such: medical, pharmacy, engineering, you need to get avarage of 87%+ in high school diploma.

other majors like ecconomic, arabic, english, accountant, eduacation (to be a teacher) sharia requarement less avarage in my country is 65+%, we call it kuliyat an natharia. which means genenal art majors.

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

We have too many ulama from working class/poor backgrounds (this affects their interpretation of Islam). It is still largely the case that children who have failed to get into medicine, law etc are sent to Islamic institutions.

lol there was a time where I thought u were stupid by accident lakiin now I realize ur retarded on purpose

Nobleman, JazaakAllaahu Khayr for the video bro. When I was in Madina Al-Munawarrah, I got to visit a lot of significant sites but this was unfortunately one I missed out on. I watched all three videos and it's always refreshing to see Muslims from different ethnic backgrounds and walks of life united by Islam.

[*Nobleman*]

We have too many ulama from working class/poor backgrounds (this affects their interpretation of Islam). It is still largely the case that children who have failed to get into medicine, law etc are sent to Islamic institutions.

Walahi i'm at a lost of words at the ignorance/stupidity (dont know which one). Do you not understand it would be harder for someone to be accepted into Madinah university as opposed to LSE or Imperial. The program in Madinah is not for the faint hearted. Also for your information, people are 'not sent to Islamic institutions', rather make a conscious and desired choice, often waiting years just to be accepted. Theres probably more people applying to every one position then any other institution in the world.

How does being from a working class background affect someones interpretation of Islam? please expand on that

Never have I seen so many inaccruacies in one sentence, in just two lines of text in my life. I could not even replicate that if I tried, I mean how can someone say so much bullshit in 2 lines.

[Hyperactive]

by the way Nobleman to be accepted in the islamic university of Madina you have to be between 18 - 25 and have good grades too if you're from none Arabic speaker backgroud and you even need at least to memorized 2 Jiza of Quran.

ps; dont worry about this woman, she doesnt even know the requirement of the university.
this one is hardest to get in if you're not saudi or khaliji.

[Leila25]

I was not referring to Medina university or its requirements... its not something i know about. I was making the point that Islamic education is not highly thought of as other majors (which hyper agreed anyway). A parent whose child has top grades will not send them to Al Azhar to become an Imam (low pay in Egypt).

[Hyperactive]

I was not referring to Medina university or its requirements... its not something i know about. I was making the point that Islamic education is not highly thought of as other majors (which hyper agreed anyway). A parent whose child has top grades will not send them to Al Azhar to become an Imam (low pay in Egypt).

no one looked down on islamic studies and not every one can do it.

it's very hard and needs too much memorizing and commitments.

medical school every where is hard to get in and that is not something we dont know.

[Leila25]

I have not said people look down upon it, but it is not seen as a good path in terms of a career. It would be nice to see the CV's of Imams and ulamas, i would like to know their educational and family background.

[Salahuddiin]

Heh, that's my old school. I'm feeling nostalgic...

Definately there's lot of good there, no doubt, but still the level and quality of education and university as a whole is going down year by year. It's not anymore like it used to be.

First off, new post 9/11-mentality is getting stronger in the school every year. Before uni was strictly islamic, but now they adding lot of stuff about nationalism, anti-jihad and praising the rulers. Of course there are some very great teachers there, but same time some others are just straight up nationalists. When I started there, posters and billboards in the uni area were islamic reminders, but when I left the place ALL of them were either praising the country, the king or the national day. One of the tawhid teachers taught students that islamic jamaca mentioned in many ahadith is nowadays saudi-state and that is the right group and if you live abroad you can still hold on to that group by promoting saudis in every place and if you hear someone talking negatively about them you have to refutate them etc. Also once in a while some princes come to talk to the uni about saudi-arabia and terrorists and it's basically obligatory for you to go there and personnel might come to check the dorm rooms and if they find someone there same time when the prince is speaking his bulls**t that guy might get some problems if he's not a good liar.

Also when I was there every year about 10 to 20 students were arrested by suspicion that they are ideologically supporting mujahidin somewhere in the world. Most of them were just in a wrong place in wrong time or guilty of knowing some wrong people. Some of them were released without any charges after being in jail for 1 year or more while some others I never heard about them since. In the last few years several somali students have been arrested when fighting started in Somalia against TFG/ethiopians/amisom.

Other thing I hated was the lack of freedom. When you go there you lose your passport and you can't travel on one month-holiday between the semesters without writing applications and having your family to fax you in arabic that they wan't you to travel back home etc. And still they might refuse your application. Also if you want to travel to some other country but the one you came from, you have to lie to them because otherwise you won't get your passport and you can't travel.

At evenings you have to be back at the uni before certain time or otherwise guards won't let you in from the gate and you have to climb over the wall and sneak in, and there is other same kind of ridiculous things that you thought ended when you were 6 years old. Some of the teachers and personnel in administration are straight up xaasidiin who treat students like garbage and sometimes you really lose your cool with them. Saudi mentality is very hard one to cope with, basically it's rough and ignorant beduin mentality (lil' like somali, except they are not as sociable ). Alhamdulillah there's still lot of good people, but unfortunately the bad ones affect you more.

If you are married I suggest you study in Egypt or some other country where you can bring your wife and children easily. In KSA it's already next to impossible and every year they make it more harder and difficult with new rules and regulations.

Then the good things... Basically it all comes down to the fact that being a student in the uni gives you a chance to live in a blessed city of Madina. You can pray every day at Prophet's masjid, you can make cumra as often as you like, for example every weekend if you feel like it. You can make hajj every year easily and cheap (regime said that everybody from inside KSA who want to make it must buy tasriix for some thousands of riyaals, so without it you have to sneak past the checkpoints through the desert on your way to Mekka like a secret agent )

Also in Medina there are some very high-caliber shuyukh that you can study with. Person who studies only in school gets maybe 5% of the benefit that people who study outside the uni get. Some of the best tullaabul cilm I knew were basically skipping a lot of classes and getting bad numbers because they made themselves busy with studying with the shuyuukh outside and didn't concentrate at their uni studies at all.

Last but not least you will meet lot of great people there from every single country and culture. That's a great place to make contacts all around the world and meet some of the best brothers you can ever have.

I had some rough times there, but afterwards it was great experience and big eye-opener for me about many things.

[Leila25]

Abdullah Quick seems to agree with me.

[Hyperactive]

Abdullah Quick seems to agree with me.

lol so we leave the learning and being scholars becasue some one agreed with you?

millions disagree with you and we can use that too but that shows your mentality and degree of thinking you have.

[Leila25]

Did i say leave the learning? Walahi people just jump to conclusions. I am only making a case for my opinion.