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Murax wrote:The thing is, in successful societies people care about themselves first, the Country second. Qabiil doesn't factor in their lives other then keeping kinship relations. When it comes to shit like lets pick up a gun and fight for qabiil, they'll be the first to inform the police and have these Guys removed from the streets. Secondly, When You think as a induvidual, You recognize that living in a anarchy state, and becoming a refugee isn't a viable option so You will not fight for qabiil. When You say "Why should Somalis give up their qabiil" what I mean is do not endanger Yourself, and society through qabiil. For instance lets say tommorow a Government is established in Somalia, if some random group decides to rebel, their tribesman in their villages will give them a safe haven and allow them to shoot from within their neighborhoods, instead of saying listen focker take this fight somewhere else. Every other soceity, is willing to have anybody destroyed who tries to inu amaanka qal qal geliyo but in Somalia it doesn't matter. You even hear about a tribe breaking other tribe members from jail who robbed, stole, raped, killed not even thinking "If these Guys are on the street tommorow, they'll menace all of us". This psyce is rooted in the blood sxb, and You have to accept it won't change for a long time if at all.
I agree with you wallahi, I always say when it comes to paying maag qofka haadu qof kaas u dilay ha la dilo otherwise I`ll pay. I would never endanger my life for a tribesman who`s corrupt and criminal, Somalis need to realize that a bad inaadeer is bad for the society and you, before we can move on and build a nation.
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proud xabashilander :up:
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Murax wrote:
Cinque Mtume wrote:
Xamud. wrote:^^^^^^^
I`m not sure if A/W and Galia agrees with your definition of Statehood :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: Every state has its underclass.


Murax,

So there was no central authority for all Somalis. But these examples have showed that Somalis from different clans could live under a Somali ruled, Somali founded state.

Suldaan Keenadiid, was a very distinguished figure no doubt amongst lamagoodleys, but Ethiopia/Abysinnia Had one ruler, Yemen Had one ruler, Aal Saud, controlled and captured most of Arabia turning it into their kingdom, Banu Hashim captured Jordan, but Somalia never Had one family, ruler, etc. estabslish firm control of the entire Country and establish authority over it, however You did have Sultanates like Keenadiid AUN and others.
Saudi Arabia only became a centralised state relatively recent, so there you go. Somalia was invaded at the wrong time I believe, we were expanding like crazy and developing more advanced local rule than every before when the Europeans came to the scene and stopped the party. If we had another century of no interference, we wouldn't be the people we are today.

No need to make Somalis like some degenerate kind of people mate. We're just very unlucky due to a multitude of circumstances.

All the examples you put forth like clans breaking into prisons to free kinsmen, that's just a product of anarchy releasing the worst in behaviour and therefore also culture. With the right authority, Somalis don't dare to be this wild.
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Xamud. wrote:
Murax wrote:The thing is, in successful societies people care about themselves first, the Country second. Qabiil doesn't factor in their lives other then keeping kinship relations. When it comes to shit like lets pick up a gun and fight for qabiil, they'll be the first to inform the police and have these Guys removed from the streets. Secondly, When You think as a induvidual, You recognize that living in a anarchy state, and becoming a refugee isn't a viable option so You will not fight for qabiil. When You say "Why should Somalis give up their qabiil" what I mean is do not endanger Yourself, and society through qabiil. For instance lets say tommorow a Government is established in Somalia, if some random group decides to rebel, their tribesman in their villages will give them a safe haven and allow them to shoot from within their neighborhoods, instead of saying listen focker take this fight somewhere else. Every other soceity, is willing to have anybody destroyed who tries to inu amaanka qal qal geliyo but in Somalia it doesn't matter. You even hear about a tribe breaking other tribe members from jail who robbed, stole, raped, killed not even thinking "If these Guys are on the street tommorow, they'll menace all of us". This psyce is rooted in the blood sxb, and You have to accept it won't change for a long time if at all.
I agree with you wallahi, I always say when it comes to paying maag qofka haadu qof kaas u dilay ha la dilo otherwise I`ll pay. I would never endanger my life for a tribesman who`s corrupt and criminal, Somalis need to realize that a bad inaadeer is bad for the society and you, before we can move on and build a nation.

:up: :up: :up:

Even though I joke on Snet, really if I was in a fully functional State of Somalia tommorow, if I Had forget a tribesman even a family member who killed, raped, etc. I wouldn't mind at all in sharciga lo hor keeno and for Him to be dealt with waayo this person is even a danger to His own family let alone society. In America You'll never hear a family defending a family member of theirs who killed someone. The most they'll say is "He is mentaly unstable" but You'll never hear them say He must walk free. To erase this fikfir from Soomalida will be a enormous task.


Cinque,

I guess time will tell My friend. Don't think I have low self esteem, or am self hating. Allah made Me a Somali, and I'm proud of it. However I always like to keep it real with Myself and others, and as Somalis We have to admit what are problems are. Waxaan aan kuugu iraahday are real problems and social ills Soomalida have whether in qurbaha or in Somalia and they will never get anywhere or achieve anything by denying it. Denying and sweeping it under the rug, and acting like nothing is wrong will only prolong the problem.
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Bro, I understand you. I'm not saying there's nothing wrong, A LOTTA THINGS ARE WRONG!!!

I'm just against talking ourselves into ailments or some shit. I hear people talking about Somalis are just like that, there's nothing we can do.

Somalis are ordinary people in extraordinary circumstances. It's the circumstances we need to change, than the people will change.

The big question is How???

Two words: Time and Miracle.
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This is getting too redundant and boring :down:

Screw these lame ass emotional topics. :arrow:
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Twisted_Logic wrote:This is getting too redundant and boring :down:

Screw these lame ass emotional topics. :arrow:
I would be bothered by the unconscious feeling of guilt too if I were you.
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Twisted_Logic wrote:This is getting too redundant and boring :down:

Screw these lame ass emotional topics. :arrow:
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Cinque Mtume wrote:
Twisted_Logic wrote:This is getting too redundant and boring :down:

Screw these lame ass emotional topics. :arrow:
I would be bothered by the unconscious feeling of guilt too if I were you.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Cinque Mtume wrote:
The big question is How???

Two words: Time and Miracle.
in other words: When we are all six feet under :lol:
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Cinque Mtume wrote:
Twisted_Logic wrote:This is getting too redundant and boring :down:

Screw these lame ass emotional topics. :arrow:
I would be bothered by the unconscious feeling of guilt too if I were you.
Actually, the irony is that the same people that glorify the man that single handedly led Somalia to this path of turmoil and social anarchy are now the same people lamenting about the demise of the Somali nation. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
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wArya murax when this topic goes to four pages of tit for tat then everything you wrote before will be in front of you lmao

don't forgot also Somalia has a whole generation of illiterates... Dunno how you build a nation with people who don't the pen my nig
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FHA1223 wrote:wArya murax when this topic goes to four pages of tit for tat then everything you wrote before will be in front of you lmao

don't forgot also Somalia has a whole generation of illiterates... Dunno how you build a nation with people who don't the pen my nig

I don`t know who told you that but that`s not true, they might be savage and uncivilized but they are not illiterates, they have schools in Somalia, and most people send their kids to Schools.
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FHA1223 wrote:
Twisted_Logic wrote:This is getting too redundant and boring :down:

Screw these lame ass emotional topics. :arrow:
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WTF. In denial of what?
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Schools aren't free, Somalias a place filled with illiterates.
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