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If the 2 Arab soldiers were responsible for the entire incident, then shouldn’t it have been only an incident? Shouldn’t the resistance movement have died out after the conflict? Why did the resistance movement continue for decades BEFORE and decades AFTER the Lafoole Massacre? Why were the Italian Colonizers forced to stay within their fortification and not venture out for decades after the Lafoole Incident? Sadeboi will conveniently ignore this point and hilariously take one statement from the entire literature I have presented out of context and post it continuously simply because 1) he has no answer for the arguments that I have made and 2) he is generally dishonest.

SO, now you admit their responsibility for the incident, but not their full reponsibility :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: classic. Did lee cassanelli write or did he not write that the massacre was spurred by two Arabs yes or no?

All your other nac-nac was defeated, this is why you are trying to get away from the topic. Answer the question, did Lee Cassanelli, the only source of both for the lafoole massacre not say:

Within ten days he had determined that Lafole was NEITHER THE PRECURSOR OF A GENERAL UPRISING AGAINST THE ITALIANS nor an Ethiopian ambush BUT AN ISOLATED CASE OF ACTION by Wadan tribesman and the tribes of Geledi, WHO HAD BEEN SPURRED TO ACT BY TWO ARABS FROM MOGADISHU?
Your English comprehension really sucks.

Educate your self, you useless levy :lol:
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Answer the question, did Lee Cassanelli, the only source of both for the lafoole massacre not say:

Within ten days he had determined that Lafole was NEITHER THE PRECURSOR OF A GENERAL UPRISING AGAINST THE ITALIANS nor an Ethiopian ambush BUT AN ISOLATED CASE OF ACTION by Wadan tribesman and the tribes of Geledi, WHO HAD BEEN SPURRED TO ACT BY TWO ARABS FROM MOGADISHU?
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sadeboi wrote:Answer the question, did Lee Cassanelli, the only source of both for the lafoole massacre not say:

Within ten days he had determined that Lafole was NEITHER THE PRECURSOR OF A GENERAL UPRISING AGAINST THE ITALIANS nor an Ethiopian ambush BUT AN ISOLATED CASE OF ACTION by Wadan tribesman and the tribes of Geledi, WHO HAD BEEN SPURRED TO ACT BY TWO ARABS FROM MOGADISHU?
:lol: :lol: Talk about being intellectually crippled. Since his claims failed to make any sense, he know thinks that increasing his font will make much difference. You have always been a desperate character, Sadeboi. :lol:

I answered your question with both historical evidence and simple rebuttal. It is not my fault that your ability to defend your ignorance is greater than your ability to educate yourself.

If the 2 Arab soldiers were responsible for the entire incident, then shouldn’t it have been only an incident? Shouldn’t the resistance movement have died out after the conflict? Why did the resistance movement continue for decades BEFORE and decades AFTER the Lafoole Massacre? Why were the Italian Colonizers forced to stay within their fortification and not venture out for decades after the Lafoole Incident? Sadeboi will conveniently ignore this point and hilariously take one statement from the entire literature I have presented out of context and post it continuously simply because 1) he has no answer for the arguments that I have made and 2) he is generally dishonest
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Are you slow, listen you simpleton: the question at hand is not even the entire incident, but the INITIAL CAUSE of the war. I do not care for you analogy and explanation on the entire incident. What does Lee Cassanelli say about the INITIAL CAUSE of the war? Is what I copied falsified? Does he not stated that INITIAL CAUSE of the of the Lafoole incident was:

Within ten days he had determined that Lafole was NEITHER THE PRECURSOR OF A GENERAL UPRISING AGAINST THE ITALIANS nor an Ethiopian ambush BUT AN ISOLATED CASE OF ACTION by Wadan tribesman and the tribes of Geledi, WHO HAD BEEN SPURRED TO ACT BY TWO ARABS FROM MOGADISHU?
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You are getting redundant and boring. In the future, don't criticize clans that fought against the colonizers while serving as levies for them. This is your whole argument. I hope you learned a lesson today, kid.
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:lol: :lol: :lol: I LOVE DOING THIS EVERYTIME :lol: :lol: :lol:
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sadeboi wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: I LOVE DOING THIS EVERYTIME :lol: :lol: :lol:
We know that you love to embarrass yourself every-time you write something. How is this shocking to you? You should be ashamed of your fathers who served as levies for the colonizers when mine were fighting against them :up:
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This is not the Isaaq group who you beg to love your hutu clan, this is the general section, every member can read for themselves. For 2 years you have yet to answer that basic question.
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sadeboi wrote:This is not the Isaaq group who you beg to love your hutu clan, this is the general section, every member can read for themselves. For 2 years you have yet to answer that basic question.
It is really not my fault that your English Comprehension sucks in a major way. Read the sequence of our discussion and see who is not answering the question. Posting the same defeated claim over and over again, doesn't help you against my argument that my clan fought off the colonizers admirably while your clan was being employed as levies by the colonizers.

The 2 New York Times articles I posted should tell you something. The world sees your clan as levies and political prostitutes while they view mine as fighters of colonization. You can't beat this and hence your redundant claims. You are boring and don't deserve much attention.
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Your second grade methods do not work on me simpleton, you wish to engage in topics about Marexaan to divert attention from the lafoole massacre. One simple question is at hand for 2 years, what was the INITIAL cause of the Lafoole incident as stated in the source you presented? Simple one question, that you cannot answer, I am not even mentioning the other stuff mentioned in the book.
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sadeboi wrote:Your second grade methods do not work on me simpleton, you wish to engage in topics about Marexaan to divert attention from the lafoole massacre. One simple question is at hand for 2 years, what was the INITIAL cause of the Lafoole incident as stated in the source you presented? Simple one question, that you cannot answer, I am not even mentioning the other stuff mentioned in the book.
Wallahi, you are not even a simpleton because calling you one would imply a chance that you could be educated. You are worse. You are a toad that is unoriginal and boring. At the end of the day, this is the entire discussion summed up. Good luck defending it
SOMALIS TO BE PUNISHED.

For the Murder of Italians at Magadoxo, Africa

Rome, Dec. 3.In the chamber of Deputies today the Marquis Visconti Venosti, Minister of Foreign Affaires, confirmed the reports from Zanzibar of the murder of the Italian Consul, Signor Cecchi, the Captains, and a number of officers of the Italian warships Volturno and Staffeta, and the wounding of 100 or more other Italians by Somalis at Magadoxo. The men had fallen into an ambuscade and were attacked without warning.
The Government , the Minister said, would take energetic measures to punish the Somalis who were guilty of the outrage.
The Marquis said that the confirmatory reports showed that fourteen Italians had been killed, together with a number of the escorts of the Italians whose caravan was attacked during the night. Twenty-seven bodies were recovered by a rescue party when hurried to the scene from Magadoxo when the news of fighting reached there. The rescuers arrested a number of the Somalis who participated in the massacre and punished them appropriately. Many of the Somalis tribesmen were also killed by the Italians in the fight that followed the attack on the caravan.


The New York Times
Published: December 4, 1886
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SOMALI WANT TO FIGHT

The New York Times, pg. 8
Nov 22, 1914


Jubaland Chiefs Send Plea to England to Join the Army

London, Nov. 10 -the London Times has received from a correspondent a copy of a petition signed by the principal Somali chiefs in Jubaland, asking that they be allowed to fight for England. The document is as follows:

To His Highness the Governor,

Through the Hakim of Jubaland

Salaams, yea, many salaams, with God's mercy, blessing, and peace. After Salaams,


We, the Somali of Jubaland, both Herti and Ogaden, comprising all the tribes and including the Maghaubul, but not including the [Tolomooge] Ogaden, who live in Biskaya and Tanaland and the Merehan, desire humbly to address you.

In former days the Somali have fought against the Government. Even lately the Marehan have fought against the Government. Now we have heard that the German Government have declared war on the English government. Behold, our "fitna" against the English Government is finished. As the Monsoon wind drives the sand hills of our coast into new forms, so does this this news of German evil-doing drive our hearts and spears into the service of the English Government. The Jubaland Somali are with the English Government. Daily in our mosques we pray for the success of the English armies. Day is as night and night is as day with us until we hear that the English are victorious. God knows the right. He will help the right. We have heard that the Indian Askaris have been sent to fight for us in Europe. Humbly we ask why should not the Somali fight for England also. We beg the Government to allow our warriors to show their loyalty. In former days the Somali tribes made fitna against each other. Even now it is so: it is our custom; yet with the Government against the Germans we are as one, ourselves, our warriors, our women, and our children. By God it is so.

A few days ago many troops of the military left this country to eat up the Germans who have invaded our country in Africa. May God prosper them. Yet, Oh Hakim, with all humbleness we desire to beg of the Government to allow our sons and warriors to take part in this great war against the German evildoer. They are ready. They are eager. Grant them the boon. God and Mohammed is with us all.

If Government wish to take away all the troops and police from Jubaland, it is good. We pledge ourselves to act as true Government askaries until they return.

We humbly beg that this our letter may be placed at the feet of our King and Emperor, who lives in England, in token of our loyalty and our prayers.
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All of what you wrote of Marehan is true, Marehan are levies blah blah. Now, back to our question at hand, what was the initial cause of the Lafoole Massacre?
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sadeboi wrote:All of what you wrote of Marehan is true, Marehan are levies blah blah. Now, back to our question at hand, what was the initial cause of the Lafoole Massacre?
:lol: :lol:

You are simple-minded.

Quit wasting time. :lol:
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Twisted stop this fitnah we are all equal infront of Allah, if someone calls you Bantu they will be recompensed in Akhira, if you call me Boon then you are insulting your own muslim brother stop this man
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:lol: :lol: :lol: you can't answer one question for two years, it needs no answer really, it right there clearly stated by Lee Cassanelli.
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