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Murax wrote:

Twisted_Logic wrote:

What a pathetic attempt to humiliate oneself. Both SW and I had arguments with you about your silly " bad government vs no government" talk. It is even sad that you are running away from your previous statements. But what else to expect.

People should stand by their word, no matter how much it humiliates them. This way, you grow and you learn

When did I make this Bad Government is better than no Government? The thing is the more You spew out Your gibberish the bigger fool You'll make Yourself out to be. I never supported the previous TFG for one second. The first time I came with the Government is better than no Government was with the Djibouti deal, electing of Shareef, Where I as well as many other Somalis thought things might be different, Chairman of the ICU. It turned out things are the exact same maybe worse. So in essence the first time I actually supported the TFG ever, was When Your Hero was elected fool. When it became clear to Me He was nothing but another paper figure after darajo, I withdrew support. However, talk is cheap, I'm still waiting on that challenge. Show Me Where I ever made such seismic shifts in principle. I would say You have changed principles too, but You never Had any to begin with.

There is no point being a coward and we all know your previous stances. SW who debated with you extensively on this topic is here on this thread and am sure he can recall too.

Again, are you going to call out your buddies Voltage and sadeboi for their flip flopping or is blood thicker than water

Twisted_Logic wrote:

Murax wrote:

Twisted_Logic wrote:

What a pathetic attempt to humiliate oneself. Both SW and I had arguments with you about your silly " bad government vs no government" talk. It is even sad that you are running away from your previous statements. But what else to expect.

People should stand by their word, no matter how much it humiliates them. This way, you grow and you learn

When did I make this Bad Government is better than no Government? The thing is the more You spew out Your gibberish the bigger fool You'll make Yourself out to be. I never supported the previous TFG for one second. The first time I came with the Government is better than no Government was with the Djibouti deal, electing of Shareef, Where I as well as many other Somalis thought things might be different, Chairman of the ICU. It turned out things are the exact same maybe worse. So in essence the first time I actually supported the TFG ever, was When Your Hero was elected fool. When it became clear to Me He was nothing but another paper figure after darajo, I withdrew support. However, talk is cheap, I'm still waiting on that challenge. Show Me Where I ever made such seismic shifts in principle. I would say You have changed principles too, but You never Had any to begin with.

There is no point being a coward and we all know your previous stances. SW who debated with you extensively on this topic is here on this thread and am sure he can recall too.

Again, are you going to call out your buddies Voltage and sadeboi for their flip flopping or is blood thicker than water

I'm not responsible for Sadeboi's or Voltage's stances, take it up with them. This isn't about group think.

Since You seem to probagate innuendos and unverifiable insinuations, Somaliweyn can confirm that I was always Anti Shabab and Anti TFG. Yes, I wasn't jumping up and down supporting the "Resistance" as I questioned a lot of the clan dynamics involved, and My case was proven right When I see the same people who said they opposed the previous TFG on "Religious grounds" support this one. My suspicians becamse a self fulfilling prophecy. Just like today, I don't support all the people who support the continuing of useless barkicin of populations by saying "We're fighting AMISOM on Religious grounds" when there fighting for power. You're a coward, who wants to make blanket statments on someone, with no proof. Either substantiate what You say, retract it, or just admit You huff and puff whenever u feel the need.

Murux,

You can never hide.

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Re: Operation "Lights Out" will commence in Jubbaland soon!

Luq_Ganane wrote:Terrorists will not have their way in Jubbaland. Annhaliate them. 8)

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Yea, bringing Muslims (And Eritrean Christians) from all over the world, to make "Jihad" against your own brothers and sisters is brave and noble correct? Seriously I think all of you truly take this qabil stuff to the heart rather than the entertainment value. Its very simple what these people were about. Either (and this is my hunch) they were oppritunistic qabilists, who siezed on our love of the deen, to advance there qabil motives, or they had very little knowledge of the deen, in reference to dealing with your fellow brothers and sisters in another way then declaring "Jihad" against them, as if they are Kaffirs and Musrikin. As I said earlier, some of you are drunk off of this qabil stuff, and some of you guys really need to get a clue. Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we should all hail the Ogaden and Cayr? Oh, and we can't forget the two Mahdis Dahir Aweis and Turki.The liberators of the horn of Africa. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Wallahi I'm not lying. I heard from a very,very trustworthy and honest sheikh, that I asked about the ICU. (This guy was Habar Gidir) that, Dahir Aweis said "Somali blood is halal for me". Also when he invaded puntland, he said that his people were free to forcefully marry the girls there, and take there wealth because, it was halal for him because they are Kaffirs. WTF is that? ICU DESERVED WHAT THEY GOT. If they were right, and on the Haqq Allah (SWT) would have supported them, but instead they got humiliated. Now they have resorted to, throwing grenades from there neighborhoods, knowing fully well that the Eithos will simply aim there tanks and missles there and decimate the place. THEY DON'T CARE. Whereas they could have used qabil as a uniting force, they instead used it to cause hatred and emnity, among the people. How sad.

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You never supported the ICU, you always saw them as Hawiye force. But you are actually better than the others in your clan who turned pro-ICU only once AY tried to bully Hiraale. Nevertheless, you went back to supporting the TFG in the last days

Murux,

You accused SW of changing positions (when he hasn't done so) while you are silent about your own shifts of opinion and not to mention Voltage and Sadeboi's bi-polarism. It is predictably hypocritical of you

Twisted,

And? As I mentioned I have always been against all these so called Religious groups, and the ICU was a takfiri movement just like Shabab, even though they were not as extreme. I was for Shishkabab eradication in Jubooyinka then, and I am for their eradication now. I was for a Jubbaland Admin then, and I am now. I called Daahir Aweis a takfiri long before most Hawiyes today call Him a Takfiri. Again though in the minds of a lot of people, as long as He's pursuing Hawiye interests He's pure, the second He starts massacring civilians in Xamar, He's a takfiri. Nothings changed. If anything, thanks for quoting that thread You saved Me time.


As for Sadeboi/Voltage, they have always been upfront in saying they are Pro Interest of Marexaan, and never designated themselves as coming from a purely "Nationalistic" platform the way Somaliweyn always did. Nonetheless, there is no reason for this thread to go longer, and respect to Somaliweyn for applying the same principles.

Twisted_Logic wrote:You actually took the time to honor this thing with a reply?

Why so obsessed with Murax? Even when he doesn't address you, is it necessary to target him 3,4,5 times to get his attention?

Voltage wrote:

Twisted_Logic wrote:You actually took the time to honor this thing with a reply?

Why so obsessed with Murax? Even when he doesn't address you, is it necessary to target him 3,4,5 times to get his attention?

Because I'm the only one who understands the extent of psycological trauma this character Has gone through

Twisted is the same kid who boasted about the destruction of Muqdisho, and saw it as a Haber-Gider destruction. Only after Ghedi did he stop his support for TFG.

They look like Twins, but I can still tell the Somalinimo in the guy that differentiates him from the President.

Murax wrote:Twisted,

And? As I mentioned I have always been against all these so called Religious groups, and the ICU was a takfiri movement just like Shabab, even though they were not as extreme. I was for Shishkabab eradication in Jubooyinka then, and I am for their eradication now. I was for a Jubbaland Admin then, and I am now. I called Daahir Aweis a takfiri long before most Hawiyes today call Him a Takfiri. Again though in the minds of a lot of people, as long as He's pursuing Hawiye interests He's pure, the second He starts massacring civilians in Xamar, He's a takfiri. Nothings changed. If anything, thanks for quoting that thread You saved Me time.


As for Sadeboi/Voltage, they have always been upfront in saying they are Pro Interest of Marexaan, and never designated themselves as coming from a purely "Nationalistic" platform the way Somaliweyn always did. Nonetheless, there is no reason for this thread to go longer, and respect to Somaliweyn for applying the same principles.

I agree with this statement but they go out of their way (and fail) to present themselves as nationalists. They can't try the tricks as often as they would like because the irony will be easily observable.

Somaliweyne, Executive, Koronto/Kolombo have been (right or wrong) the most consistent members on SNET. Somaliweyne has made his views clear, and hasn't contradicted himself even once. If you expect him to log on SNET 24/7 just to criticize the TFG than you have the meaning of objectivity twisted. I personally know him and can vouch for him. The guy has been AWOL for almost a year. But with regards to this topic, you have asked him a specific question and he gave you a very unambiguous response. Unless, your whole attempt was to distort his character and put words in his mouth, I consider this case closed.

sadeboi wrote:Twisted is the same kid who boasted about the destruction of Muqdisho, and saw it as a Haber-Gider destruction. Only after Ghedi did he stop his support for TFG.

They look like Twins, but I can still tell the Somalinimo in the guy that differentiates him from the President.

The simplistic and naive kid who only sees things through clan-lenses. Who can forget " Kismayo liberated" to " Death to Abdullahi Yusuf' only when AY bullied his Hiraale

I have never mentioned HG nor did I ever address them negatively on SNET, not even once. Unlike you, some of us don't rely on qabil to explain things. We are much more mature than that.

they look exacly the same,except for the nose and little bit difference in colour.

Twisted_Logic wrote:

Murax wrote:Somaliweyn,

You always seem to duck My question. What happened to all of the "No foriegn agenda will be imposed on Somalia..No foreign intervention..No foreign troop dependent paper Presidents" and all this conjuncture You used to spew constantly non stop, back When AY was in power. Now that Shareef is part and parcel of the same exact system, engaged in the same acts, Where are Your condemnations, or are You willing to admit lack of principle on Your side?

@ this kid.

Weren't you the one that used to claim " a bad government is better than no government" as your reason for supporting the TFG?

SW, for right or wrong has been the most consistent member on SNET, unlike you who changes his positions based on the mentioning of the name " Hawiye" GAFL

the dude even used hadiths to defend ina yeey,saying he is amir al mumineen. he has always been munafiq.

Murax wrote:

Voltage wrote:

Twisted_Logic wrote:You actually took the time to honor this thing with a reply?

Why so obsessed with Murax? Even when he doesn't address you, is it necessary to target him 3,4,5 times to get his attention?

Because I'm the only one who understands the extent of psycological trauma this character Has gone through

@ this is hilarious Q and A. One proposes and the other disposes

The guy who literally freaks out when he hears the words " Hawiye" is now telling us about "pyschological trauma" It could actually be very true considering the guy is speaking from experience

HutuKing01 wrote:

Twisted_Logic wrote:

Murax wrote:Somaliweyn,

You always seem to duck My question. What happened to all of the "No foriegn agenda will be imposed on Somalia..No foreign intervention..No foreign troop dependent paper Presidents" and all this conjuncture You used to spew constantly non stop, back When AY was in power. Now that Shareef is part and parcel of the same exact system, engaged in the same acts, Where are Your condemnations, or are You willing to admit lack of principle on Your side?

@ this kid.

Weren't you the one that used to claim " a bad government is better than no government" as your reason for supporting the TFG?

SW, for right or wrong has been the most consistent member on SNET, unlike you who changes his positions based on the mentioning of the name " Hawiye" GAFL

the dude even used hadiths to defend ina yeey,saying he is amir al mumineen. he has always been munafiq.

Wallahi I remember that and it was exactly that thread I had in mind when I said that he claimed " a bad government is worse than no government" when he defended AY. But all of a sudden, the guy parades credentials that he neither has nor deserve. It is a fabulous world of make-belief these charlatans live.