Is this the oldest pictures of Isaaq icons we have?

[Siciid85]

Sahan Galbeed




Sharmarke wuxuu ka talinayay, magaalada Saylac muddo dheer, laga soo bilaabo 1827-kii ilaa waxyar ka hor markuu Ingirsiisku sida rasmiga ah u soo galay Somaliland. Sharmarke, waxa uu wakiil u ahaa maamul xoogganaa oo ka jiray Yaman, kaasoo uu siin jiray cashuur. Sharmarke, waxa uu ahaa nin soomaali ah, balse xiligaa, ahaa nin maalqabeen ah, nin fahamsan maamullada adduunka ka jira, nin soo arkay xilligaa adduunyada meelo kala fog. Nin la odhan jiray Johnston oo wax ka qoray Berbera iyo Saylac 1844-kii wuxuu ku tilmaamay Sharmarke, nin xooggan oo maamulkiisu dhisanyahay, isla markaana ah nin firfircoon. Richard Burton oo ahaa basaaskii qarnigaa ugu weynaa ee Somaliland soo gala, wuxuu isaguna ku tilmaamay nin xilligaa 1854-kii maamulkiisu xoogganaa, oo magaalada Saylacna lahayd dhawr irridood oo keliya, oo laga soo galo, ganacsi xoog-lihina ka socday.

Sheekh Sharmarke, wuxuu ka talinayay magaalada Saylac muddo ka badan 30 sannadood.
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http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/b/burton/ ... index.html

[paidmonk]

I don't think slaves were shipped to the north, there's no use for them. The only Somalis who had a slave trade with Omanis were the Majerteen living in the Gosha (Shabelle & Jubba) regions.

[Siciid85]

Paidmonk, i don't know about majerteenia, but many slaves were shipped off from seylac present day somaliland.

[2ndtoNone]

Sheikh Madar- ninka Shaatiga madow gashan waa Soomaaligii ugu horeeyay ee
daga Hargeisa /Sheikh Madar dressed in Black is the first man to settle Hargeisa

Picture beleived to have be take around early 1800's

[Siciid85]

2ndroNone, impossible sxb sheikh madaar was much younger then sharmaake how the hell could that be in early 1800s? and he looks old in that picture.

[The_Emperior5]

Sheikh madar was born in 1835 Died in 1910

[ToughGong]

Paidmonk, i don't know about majerteenia, but many slaves were shipped off from seylac present day somaliland.

In the 16th century, ZEILA (Saylac) on the Gulf of Aden was a trading center offering goods such as coffee, ostrich feathers, Ethiopian slaves etc.; it became the center of the Muslim Sultanate of ADAL

http://www.sdwo.com/HistorySomaliland.htm

[Siciid85]

Here somethings from the book about sharmaake, apparently sharmaakes wife was arab.

[Siciid85]

Sharmaake's son Maxamed baasha described.




"we are visited at this hour by Mohammed Sharmarkay, eldest son of the old governor. He is in age about thirty, a fine tall figure, slender but well knit, beardless and of light complexion, with large eyes, and a length of neck which a lady might covet. His only detracting feature is a slight projection of the oral region, that unmistakable proof of African blood. His movements have the grace of strength and suppleness: he is a good jumper, runs well, throws the spear admirably, and is a tolerable shot. Having received a liberal education at Mocha, he is held a learned man by his fellow-countrymen. Like his father he despises presents, looking higher; with some trouble I persuaded him to accept a common map of Asia, and a revolver. His chief interest was concentrated in books: he borrowed my Abu Kasim to copy6, and was never tired of talking about the religious sciences: he had weakened his eyes by hard reading, and a couple of blisters were sufficient to win his gratitude. Mohammed is now the eldest son7; he appears determined to keep up the family name, having already married ten wives: the issue, however, two infant sons, were murdered by the Eesa Bedouins. Whenever he meets his father in the morning, he kisses his hand, and receives a salute upon the forehead. He aspires to the government of Zayla, and looks forward more reasonably than the Hajj to the day when the possession of Berberah will pour gold into his coffers. He shows none of his father’s “softness:” he advocates the bastinado, and, to keep his people at a distance, he has married an Arab wife, who allows no adult to enter the doors. The Somal, Spaniard-like, remark, “He is one of ourselves, though a little richer;” but when times change and luck returns, they are not unlikely to find themselves mistaken."

[SahanGalbeed]

Again no proof of involvement in the slave trade !
In the 16 th century proper arabs were in charge of zeylac , not somalis !
Just because the majeertens boast about this kind of shit doesn't mean we have to match 'em too okay ?

[Siciid85]

Sahangalbeed, it's a well known fact the slave trade did exist before sharmaakay and even when he was present he just continued the job i never said slavery trade started when mahamed sharmaakay became the governor of seylac, the slave trade existed way before and even when his father sharmaake the old governor was present.

[SahanGalbeed]

Well known to whom siciid ? how come somebody like you with all due respect who barely speak somali know about this shit , and I haven't heard about it ? What are you going to accuse me of now ? that I am l lessening sharmaakes stauts as a wealthy slave trader because he is a habar yonis ? c'mon now !
Show me where is the proof ?that link sdwo link doen't talk about slaves . where?
Again everywhere slaves were either in transit or brought to , to this day their descendancy can be found . Where are the slaves descendants in nowadys somaliland ?

[Siciid85]

Sahangalbeed, mahamed was not a bad man even some of the slaves that were shipped into seylac he use to make some of them his secretary

Chapter 2

Life in Zayla.


Richard Burton


One Salimayn, a black slave from the Sawahil24, now secretary to the Hajji, reads our fortunes in the rosary. The “fal”25, as it is called, acts a prominent part in Somali life. Some men are celebrated for accuracy of prediction; and in times of danger, when the human mind is ever open to the “fooleries of faith,” perpetual reference is made to their art. The worldly wise Salimayn, I observed, never sent away a questioner with an ill-omened reply, but he also regularly insisted upon the efficacy of sacrifice and almsgiving, which, as they would assuredly be neglected, afforded him an excuse in case of accident. Then we had a recital of the tales common to Africa, and perhaps to all the world. In modern France, as in ancient Italy, “versipelles” become wolves and hide themselves in the woods: in Persia they change themselves into bears, and in Bornou and Shoa assume the shapes of lions, hyenas, and leopards. 26 The origin of this metamorphic superstition is easily traceable, like man’s fetisism or demonology, to his fears: a Bedouin, for instance, becomes dreadful by the reputation of sorcery: bears and hyenas are equally terrible; and the two objects of horror are easily connected. Curious to say, individuals having this power were pointed out to me, and people pretended to discover it in their countenances: at Zayla I was shown a Bedouin, by name Farih Badaun, who notably became a hyena at times, for the purpose of tasting human blood.27 About forty years ago, three brothers, Kayna, Fardayna, and Sollan, were killed on Gulays near Berberah for the crime of metamorphosis. The charge is usually substantiated either by the bestial tail remaining appended to a part of the human shape which the owner has forgotten to rub against the magic tree, or by some peculiar wound which the beast received and the man retained. Kindred to this superstition is the belief that many of the Bedouins have learned the languages of birds and beasts. Another widely diffused fancy is that of the Aksar28."



http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/b/burton/ ... pter2.html

[SahanGalbeed]

... wallahi ma garanayo halkey adoonta ayaynu ka baayacmushtiri jirnay ta ka qaadeen raggani .
Adeer hore u maan maqal anagu wax Isaaq ah oo addon Zanzibar ka soo kaxeeya oo iib geeya !
My last post !

[Siciid85]

Sahan, maybe they were absorbed into the isaaq family , joke. , most were freed from yemen , saudi arabia, zanzibar after slavery trade or slavery was banned from around the world.