Allahayoow Dad Lama Caasiyee Daris Abgaal baa leh

[Twisted_Logic]

To be a good dariis is wajib, no one is doing anyone else a favour in that respect.

Ala Wacbudhanaaa, only they would believe faan Wacaysle, as for the rest of us we believe each sub-clan has stuff going for them.



Abdalle, Aden Cadde is Mudulood, his clan is called Udjejeen (sp?) his not abgaal, but abgaal is also mudulood. Hiraab is HG & Abgal.

Correct spelling is Udeejen. Hiraab is Mudulood, HG, Duduble and Sheekhal.

[guhad122]

Air,
Good to see you back brother!!! The reason I said Harti is that all the Abgaal people I see in the Diaspora are Harti Abgaal. I remember back home even though I didn't know much about Qabiil I used to hear a lot about Weceysle....Is it fair to assume that there are more Harti in Qurbe than Weceysle.

[Twisted_Logic]

Air,
Good to see you back brother!!! The reason I said Harti is that all the Abgaal people I see in the Diaspora are Harti Abgaal. I remember back home even though I didn't know much about Qabiil I used to hear a lot about Weceysle....Is it fair to assume that there are more Harti in Qurbe than Weceysle.

No.

[guhad122]

so in San Diego, and MN, is it fair to assume that there are more Harti than Weceysle. Why do I alwasy run into Harti.

In xamar, all our Abgaal relatives and acquintances were Wacaysle.

The other thing I wish is that more Somalis were neighbors with Abgaal. For example, in Jubaland we have no Abgaal neighbors mostly Gaal-Jecel, Biyamaal and Sheekhaasha. In Ogadenia, we have no border with Abgaal, closest would be Shilaabo to CeelDheer...A

Abgaal has no border with Isaaq, Dhulbahante, Majeerteen, Mareexaan, Ogaadeen, and many other clans. I guess there are good things about not having these camel-looting fockers as neighbors.....

[Twisted_Logic]

so in San Diego, and MN, is it fair to assume that there are more Harti than Weceysle. Why do I alwasy run into Harti.

In xamar, all our Abgaal relatives and acquintances were Wacaysle.

The other thing I wish is that more Somalis were neighbors with Abgaal. For example, in Jubaland we have no Abgaal neighbors mostly Gaal-Jecel, Biyamaal and Sheekhaasha. In Ogadenia, we have no border with Abgaal, closest would be Shilaabo to CeelDheer...A

Abgaal has no border with Isaaq, Dhulbahante, Majeerteen, Mareexaan, Ogaadeen, and many other clans. I guess there are good things about not having these camel-looting fockers as neighbors.....

In Minnesota, I think Wacesley are more. I don't know about San Diego.

We live in Fer-Fer, Western Somalia, I thought the OG lived closed by? No?

We don't share border with Isaaq and Dhulbhante, but we used to share border with Majerteen (nuux mohamed/galgale) and Marehan lives in Galgaduud and some of the wagardac live in Mareeg region with Wacesley.

[guhad122]

Feer-Feer? Man I know Feer-Feer well...I thought it was Reer-Xasan and Xawaadle/Makaahiil mix in that area. I had no idea that Abgaal stretched all the way to Feer-Feer....You know Feer-Feer is very close to Shilaabo.....I think the distance is less than 60 KM.

[Twisted_Logic]

Feer-Feer? Man I know Feer-Feer well...I thought it was Reer-Xasan and Xawaadle/Makaahiil mix in that area. I had no idea that Abgaal stretched all the way to Feer-Feer....You know Feer-Feer is very close to Shilaabo.....I think the distance is less than 60 KM.

Fer-Fer is majority Udeejen and Xawadle.

[Rooble90]

Feer-Feer? Man I know Feer-Feer well...I thought it was Reer-Xasan and Xawaadle/Makaahiil mix in that area. I had no idea that Abgaal stretched all the way to Feer-Feer....You know Feer-Feer is very close to Shilaabo.....I think the distance is less than 60 KM.

Fer-Fer is majority Udeejen and Xawadle.

I Thought Fer Fer Was JareerWeyne ?

[Twisted_Logic]

Feer-Feer? Man I know Feer-Feer well...I thought it was Reer-Xasan and Xawaadle/Makaahiil mix in that area. I had no idea that Abgaal stretched all the way to Feer-Feer....You know Feer-Feer is very close to Shilaabo.....I think the distance is less than 60 KM.

Fer-Fer is majority Udeejen and Xawadle.

I Thought Fer Fer Was JareerWeyne ?

Nah.

We are talking about Fer-Fer that is located right on the border between Somalia and Ethiopia

[Air Canada]

guhad

The two Hawiye clans you will see the most in qurbaha are Sacad and Waceesle. Maybe that is not the case anymore now but that is how it was in the mid and late 90s.

I once travelled from Nairobi, Kenya to Kampala, Uganda by bus...and this was in 98. I was with my cousin, and every little tiny tuulo we stopped (places where you will never think there will be a Somali person) we would find a truck driver or one or two businessman and I was thinking, "this guy must be Ogaden or Ilkoyar or maybe Dhabayac who fled the war but every single person we met was someone whom my cousin knew and he would say this guy is Sacad.

Waceesle are the Sacad version of the Abgaal in the sense that they do too much faan (although no where near to the extent Dhabayaco brag or the Ilkayar, Hawiye in general are not known to brag but are more savages) and when the first bullet is fired, they are usually the first to flee. That is why a lot of Sacad and Waceesle fled like Daarod in the early 90s even when HabarGidir and Abgaal were the two most dominant clans in Somalia. They were fleeing the war in greater numbers like the Daarod even when Caydiid was the Don. They may not have run to Utanga but they were fleeing like the Ilkayar who were the most wanted clan @ the time. Waceesle and Sacad are smart.

[AbdiWahab252]

Air Canada,

Sacad fleeing ? We were just more rer Magaal than most. Be thankful we were nice enough to get our rer badiye kinsfolk from Cadaado and Dhusamareb and bring them to Xamar. Unfortunately, their Magaalo joog xumo forever tarnished the HG, Inc. brand name.

[Air Canada]

Abdiwahab

You are right in saying reer Galkacyo are more reer magaal than reer Cadaado and Dhuusamareeb or the rest of Hawiye but that is something you got it from your Punani neighbours bro.

Laakiin niyoow i'll like to see you guys challenge your neighbours in the reer magaalnimo department and come up with a woman who makes Ayan Xirsi and Iman look like too reer Baadiye women

[AbdiWahab252]

Air Canada,

Not possible. We are not known to be crooked like you lot. I mean we even know not to mix the Kitaab and the bililiqo. I always chuckle when seeing 90% of the mooryaan from the 90s all of a sudden drink Tahir's tahliil and become absolved of their sins & get a new fresh start. Instead of being good sports & sharing this magical elixir with us, your greed and jealousy got the best of you. You wanted us not to get a chance at redemption While we always shared everything with you and gave you all that you needed from what we had.

Until, you get rid of your religious mafia & grudges against Sacad, you will gain nothing & lose everything.

[Air Canada]

I always wondered why Waceesle and Sacad were running out of the country in big numbers in early 90s when Siyad Barre was toppled, and UNISOM II was in town and the international institutions were pouring so much resources into Somalia and there was so much money to be made.

But i know why now. Their way of thinking was (especially the Sacad) set the house on fire and when things get out of control run like Cabdi Bille and leave the mess for others. Fuckin' i never wanted to be a qaxooti in Kenya or some other third world country in early 90s when i could live like an ilkoyar in Siyad Barre's time and be housed in a villa like villa somalia while milking unisom 2.

[qoraxeey]

I always wondered why Waceesle and Sacad were running out of the country in big numbers in early 90s when Siyad Barre was toppled, and UNISOM II was in town and the international institutions were pouring so much resources into Somalia and there was so much money to be made.

But i know why now. Their way of thinking was (especially the Sacad) set the house on fire and when things get out of control run like Cabdi Bille and leave the mess for others. Fuckin' i never wanted to be a qaxooti in Kenya or some other third world country in early 90s when i could live like an ilkoyar in Siyad Barre's time and be housed in a villa like villa somalia while milking unisom 2.