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Re: Photos - This is why Al-Shabaab dislike NGO groups

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paidmonk wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:well, thats nice and all... but ....

nothing is really changing either way with our without NGOs
Without NGOs: People forced to rebuild economy or they die. If warlords stand in their way, his bullets are no more harmful than starvation so in the end people will be forced to find peace. There are hundreds of reasons why NGOs have only perpetuated the hellish situation in Somalia.
Somalis have proven time and time again they don't have the mental fortitude to become more self sufficient but instead rely on handouts

So if NGOs are expelled, I really have no faith the populace will create their own food and what not. Everything is just doomed to failure and stagnation there.
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Re: Photos - This is why Al-Shabaab dislike NGO groups

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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Like Xplaya said, what is illegal:


1. Bullet proof vests - Whats wrong with having their staff have them ?

2. Radio Walkie Talkies - Standard communication Equipment.


The only thing that is illegal is the level of stupidity by the local authorities :down:

Does that qori belong to the solider or is that part of the load?

Regardless of these pics NGO's are detrimental to Somalia
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Re: Photos - This is why Al-Shabaab dislike NGO groups

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Nobleman,

The AK is the soldiers. WFP does buy weapons but hires local security.

Nothing controversial here.

All UN personnel entering Somalia are given Kevlar vests, walkie talkies and basic survival training before departing NAirobi.
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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Like Xplaya said, what is illegal:


1. Bullet proof vests - Whats wrong with having their staff have them ?

2. Radio Walkie Talkies - Standard communication Equipment.


The only thing that is illegal is the level of stupidity by the local authorities :down:
Did you miss the fact that the weapons were inside a rice bag? If this was a legal action, why the need to hide it?

FAH1223 wrote:Somalis have proven time and time again they don't have the mental fortitude to become more self sufficient but instead rely on handouts

So if NGOs are expelled, I really have no faith the populace will create their own food and what not. Everything is just doomed to failure and stagnation there.
Somalis don't want to rely on handouts, all of which inevitably hits the market anyway. If there is peace Somalis will go back, my family farms are already back in business, so are many others across Somalia in the NGO-free areas. You haven't seen the effects of peace first-hand and how quickly they change things but the difference is immeasurable. If peace came today, properties would be returned and within a decade you'd see the diaspora back and the Somali economy back up like the war never happened.
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Re: Photos - This is why Al-Shabaab dislike NGO groups

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we can make our own food ... bye bye NGO and world food weapons smugglers


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Paidmonk,

Exporting weapons from Kenya is much harder than buy an AK inside Somalia. This is baseless propaganda :down:
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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Paidmonk,

Exporting weapons from Kenya is much harder than buy an AK inside Somalia. This is baseless propaganda :down:
I'll agree with you that the AK belongs to the soldier, but why were the vests and radios in rice bags? Why the need to hide it?
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FAH1223 wrote:
paidmonk wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:well, thats nice and all... but ....

nothing is really changing either way with our without NGOs
Without NGOs: People forced to rebuild economy or they die. If warlords stand in their way, his bullets are no more harmful than starvation so in the end people will be forced to find peace. There are hundreds of reasons why NGOs have only perpetuated the hellish situation in Somalia.

So if NGOs are expelled, I really have no faith the populace will create their own food and what not. Everything is just doomed to failure and stagnation there.
You have no faith in SOmalis because you are a defeatist and a pessimist. I don't blame you, since most Somalis are pessimists and defeatists due to their tragic situation. But the reaility is that Somalis, if given security, peace and sincere leadership, don't need the NGOS and they can create their own food. When Alshabab expelled the WFP, many farmers welcomed them and now they are producing their own food.




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Paidmonk,

Dunno, because Jaberti thieves may steal the stuff ?

Anywayz, its not big deal. Where did this incident happen ?
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paidmonk wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:Somalis have proven time and time again they don't have the mental fortitude to become more self sufficient but instead rely on handouts

So if NGOs are expelled, I really have no faith the populace will create their own food and what not. Everything is just doomed to failure and stagnation there.
Somalis don't want to rely on handouts, all of which inevitably hits the market anyway. If there is peace Somalis will go back, my family farms are already back in business, so are many others across Somalia in the NGO-free areas. You haven't seen the effects of peace first-hand and how quickly they change things but the difference is immeasurable. If peace came today, properties would be returned and within a decade you'd see the diaspora back and the Somali economy back up like the war never happened.
Nicca puhleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase!

Somalia was reliant on handouts even when there was a government with Siad Barre and the civilian government before hand.

Theres no indsutries, theres no production, and no tangible resources right now just waiting and ready to be used with the right infrastructure. (ala Iraq)

Gaajo, our people have shown nothing that tells anyone in Somalia or the world that there will be real change coming anytime soon. Al-Shabaab may bring peace to their credit, but they won't bring much more than that. They will be fighting with someone somewhere in Somalia or on the borders
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^^ what do you mean nicca please? You said Somalis can't produce their own food and they can't live without the ngos. But the video and the facts show that more SOmalis are producing their own food and there is no NGO to be seen in sight. Secondly, I am not saying that things are perfect, but you always have to start somewhere, and sometimes you have to be try ambitious things. Defeatism and Pessimism is not part of our deen nor is it part of SOmali culture.
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Re: Photos - This is why Al-Shabaab dislike NGO groups

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This is why we need Somali civilians to be like Greeks and do uprising against TFG, Alshabab and Xisbul -Islam and all those other war-mongering morons and free their lands from all these corruption and kilings. but Somali ppl follow blindly to and obey anybody with a gun. its time to tell ppl that they have the power, that they are keeping these ppl in power and obeying years of incompetence and corruption.
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GaajoUnit wrote:^^ what do you mean nicca please? You said Somalis can't produce their own food and they can't live without the ngos. But the video and the facts show that more SOmalis are producing their own food and there is no NGO to be seen in sight. Secondly, I am not saying that things are perfect, but you always have to start somewhere, and sometimes you have to be try ambitious things. Defeatism and Pessimism is not part of our deen nor is it part of SOmali culture.
This isn't defeatism or pessimism, this is just being real.

This isn't going to last because the fragile peace there won't last. Another group is going to come or Al-Shabaab will fight amongst themselves as we have seen throughout this civil war with other Somali groups.
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Re: Photos - This is why Al-Shabaab dislike NGO groups

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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Paidmonk,

Dunno, because Jaberti thieves may steal the stuff ?

Anywayz, its not big deal. Where did this incident happen ?

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Photos - This is why Al-Shabaab dislike NGO groups

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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Like Xplaya said, what is illegal:


1. Bullet proof vests - Whats wrong with having their staff have them ?

2. Radio Walkie Talkies - Standard communication Equipment.


The only thing that is illegal is the level of stupidity by the local authorities :down:
Both XPlaya and Abdiwahab know Puntland did a commendable bust here but as always their reduced to belittling anything positive when it comes to Puntland.

Ka naxo nafta waa dheh VIVA PUNTLAND :up:
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