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DR-YALAXOOW wrote:

GacanSareeye wrote:Dr. Yal


ninyahow waxaad rabtid baad iska qortaa. korna waxaad ku tiri secular iyo democracy hoosna waxaad ku sharaxday shareecada islaamka adiga oo qaladay wax badan.

secular and democracy does not mean un-islamic and if you should choose your leader= democracy, whats wrong whit choosing of your leaders ? democracy its best form of governance democray means freedom of speech.

this is democracy in the quran

There is no compulsion in religion

democracy=xaquuqda baniaadamka

marka sharia micnaheeda saxda waa democracy maaha wadaad jaahil sacuudi wax ku bartey inuu masaakiinta gacmaha ka gooy gooyo.

aniga haddii aan maamuli lahaa wadan waxaan ku maamuli lahaa sharciga sweden oo kale laakiin tixgiliya dhaqanka islaamka suuban, maxkamado cadaalad ah oo madax banaan.iyo dad doorta madaxdooda si madax banaan.

This guy is the only comedy left on Snet wallahi this guy is

Anyone who prefers the rule of some religious sacred law over secularism in the 21st century badly needs some much required lessons from history books and a catch-up reading of political philosophy.

Enemy_Of_Mad_Mullah wrote:

DR-YALAXOOW wrote:This guy is the only comedy left on Snet wallahi this guy is

Have you ever considered your position in here? The use of 12 emoticons and a thumb-down hardly reflects anything positive on you. DR-YALAXOOW said democracy is the best form of government. Endless number of thinkers, historians, and philosophers of repute (both dead and alive) agree with him. I doubt there would be any serious educated person who would stand to recommend the rule of the state by religious law over secularism.

Dalton wrote:Anyone who prefers the rule of some religious sacred law over secularism in the 21st century badly needs some much required lessons from history books and a catch-up reading of political philosophy.

The same books and philosophy that were so euro-centric that have put us, Muslims, backward for centuries. We need to find our own ways to find solution for our own problems. We have learned the more we follow you people, the more we dig a deep hole for ourselves. Islam is our solution and we just need to be good Muslims and follow our religious scholars. We have already seen the miracles of the implementation of Sharia law in many parts of the Islamic world. We should then gradually advance our implementation of Islamic law and learn from our mistakes and shortcomings. You see it is coming down to a self-determination and the sooner we are fully free, the better we will be.

Shariica - if we mean the LAW of Islaam as outlined in The Holy QUR'AN and The Sunnah (The Devine Law), then it is absurd to suggest or consider any other rule of law , secularism or any other ism . Anyone who chooses any other way of life other than which was revealed in the holy qur'an and the sunnah will perish.
Just look back at history and/or travel through the earth and youll see what happened to those who came before you.

following is just some of the criterion mentioned by the Amiirul mu'miniin umar ibn khattab
"All the injunctions of Islam are based on reason."
"Without consultation, the caliphate is unlawful."
"He who has any public responsibility should perform his duties without caring for criticism."
"The ruler whose intention is good will have the help of God in the administration of his affairs; he whose intention is bad will come to disgrace."
"That ruler is most accursed whose misconduct leads to the distress of the people."

BODHI wrote:WHY OR WHY NOT

subhanallah

as a muslim we submit to allah sw and he order us to choose islamic sharia over any man made law

udun wrote:The same books and philosophy that were so euro-centric that have put us, Muslims, backward for centuries. We need to find our own ways to find solution for our own problems. We have learned the more we follow you people, the more we dig a deep hole for ourselves. Islam is our solution and we just need to be good Muslims and follow our religious scholars. We have already seen the miracles of the implementation of Sharia law in many parts of the Islamic world. We should then gradually advance our implementation of Islamic law and learn from our mistakes and shortcomings. You see it is coming down to a self-determination and the sooner we are fully free, the better we will be.

When you have failed, as a civilization or as something even less, it's always easier to blame your own failure for someone else. When the Islamic Civilization started to decline, Europe was hardly anything. Much of it was still under a heavy religious influence. The great events that were to shape it were still to come: The Black Death, The Medieval Inquisition, The Renaissance, The Industrial Revolution, The Age of Enlightenment, and their was a big gap between most of these events themselves. There were 7 centuries between the rise of the first secular state in the Western world and the time when the Islamic Civilization is now agreed to have started declining. If you are really interested in how the Islamic Civilization started to decline and the cause of its failure, then I suggest you to find out what happened between the Muslim scientists and philosophers and theologians in the 11th century.

secularism is just a disguised atheism.
conceal it however you want but evey true muslim sees secularism for what it is. Highway to HELL.

Sharica Law implemented by Alshabaab

I blamed secularism for why am so fuked up, as human we need fear of harsh consequences to deter us from the messed up things we do but now that I am free to do whatever. All my ethics and morals went down the toilet, in oneday I would probably commit the equivalent of 30 hand chops, stoning and 100 public lashes in this wrenched secular society.

If you dont know evil you will fall into it. secularism teaches nothing but evil.
Secularism must be eradicated from the face of the earth. If no one else is willing to do it, may alshabaab will.

LoDoon wrote:If you dont know evil you will fall into it. secularism teaches nothing but evil.
Secularism must be eradicated from the face of the earth. If no one else is willing to do it, may alshabaab will.

No truer words were ever spoking, the swag of this quote alone transcends alshabaabical astronomical dimensions.

Sorry folks but No Sharia for me. I am secular man and will be for secular governmental system forever. Sharia is for suckers who worships Al shabab and their ilks. These rag tags and illiterate followers made Sharia and Islam some kind of stoneage barbarian practices.


SomeGuy

SomeKufr wrote:Sorry folks but No Sharia for me. I am secular man and will be for secular governmental system forever. Sharia is for suckers who worships Allah and ofcourse muslims. These rag tags and illiterate followers made Sharia and Islam some kind of stoneage barbarian practices.


SomeKufr

Fixed with just slight adjustments.

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2ndtoNone wrote:Shariica - if we mean the LAW of Islaam as outlined in The Holy QUR'AN and The Sunnah (The Devine Law), then it is absurd to suggest or consider any other rule of law , secularism or any other ism . Anyone who chooses any other way of life other than which was revealed in the holy qur'an and the sunnah will perish.
Just look back at history and/or travel through the earth and youll see what happened to those who came before you.

following is just some of the criterion mentioned by the Amiirul mu'miniin umar ibn khattab
"All the injunctions of Islam are based on reason."
"Without consultation, the caliphate is unlawful."
"He who has any public responsibility should perform his duties without caring for criticism."
"The ruler whose intention is good will have the help of God in the administration of his affairs; he whose intention is bad will come to disgrace."
"That ruler is most accursed whose misconduct leads to the distress of the people."

the real question we should ask ourselfs is what is shariica?
is shariica system of punishment of those who commit crime or its just cutting hands and legs and stoning people to death?
there is no counntry on this planet who does not have or punish criminals so that they dont do crime and go free, i think thats reason behind shariica, law and order.

marka so called shariica ee dadka waalay ee mooda qofkii wax ka sheega inuu gaaloobayo waa sidan u tusaaale forexample in the quran there is not ayah which says stone people to death for adultry, but unfortunatly there are hadiith which contradicts quran and says stone people.

what and how is 1 dollar ama 5 million = gacan gooyn ?

marka shareecada nafteeda ayaaba ah wax aan maanta la ogeeyn oo bugaag ay CARAB qoreen oo aan shaqo ku laheeyn quraanka ayaa dadka lagu xukumaa sida sacuudiga iyo xukunkii talibaan inay dhagax ku dilaan dadka ama gacmaha ka gooyaan dad xadey 10 dollar.
waxaas miyaa marka ah sharci allah naxariista baddan ka soo degay ama waa wax bani aadam sameeystay?

b]following is just some of the criterion mentioned by the Amiirul mu'miniin umar ibn khattab
"All the injunctions of Islam are based on reason."
"Without consultation, the caliphate is unlawful."
"He who has any public responsibility should perform his duties without caring for criticism."
"The ruler whose intention is good will have the help of God in the administration of his affairs; he whose intention is bad will come to disgrace."
"That ruler is most accursed whose misconduct leads to the distress of the people."[/b][/quote

IS omar bin khadaab RC words OR What he said aquel as dive law of god??

no its not.

omar bin khadaab was not a prophet or a GOD,THEREFORE if i dont agree what omar rc said about caliphate of i do not fellow what omar said it does not mean apostacy(gaalnimo) becouse omar was not god either prophet.

forexmple waxa la yiraahdo caliphate?

maxay tahay caliphate




caliphate was system like north Korean kim Kim Jong- little kim or son of bin sacuudi al abdul asiis or mucaawiya son yazid ibn mucaawiya inheriting president or caliph from hes father KIM IL SONG,abdulcasiis, what i mean is so called caliphate from beginning was qabiil inheritance system which only the son of leader caliph becomes the leader of nation after hes father, is that's ultimate form government and what Islam got to do whit that caliphates inheritance system .
last reminening caliphate system today is in north korea and arabian peninsula.

waxaa leeysku qaldaaa secularisim iyo diin la,aan!

secularism has nothing to whit atheism, secularism allows people to practise their religion believes freely, look for example republic of Turkey most powerful and advanced Islamic country in the world. all Muslim countries should become like turkey and adopt secular state and democracy so that their countries will not be like Saudi Arabian which most uneducated backward country on this planet.


marka xukun dawlad dunida ugu fiican oo dadka u saamaxa horumar, dhaqaale fiican iyo diintooda ay si wanaagsan aan munaafiqnimo aheeyn sida sacuudiga oo kale, ay u heeystaan diintooda systemka dunida ugu macquulsan waa secularism and democracy, bal fiiriya maxaa na keenay EUROPE IYO NORTH AMERICA ama australia, maxaan sacuudiga ama NORTH CALIPHATE KOREA ugu noolaan weeynay haduu secularism ama democracy wax xun ay yihiin?