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Nah Bro i am cool don't take this the wrong way but sometimes you go off topic alot.
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Siciid85 wrote:Nah Bro i am cool don't take this the wrong way but sometimes you go off topic alot.
Take my humble apologise Sultan.

Ps, was it my little cousin 1-Lonodner laughing at you that pissed you off. :mrgreen:
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Yeah emperior you're correct...so how much does the average person count from sugulle caynanshe??

Like I count 8 from Diini, all the other young people..xoogsade...warsame101..and others count 7 to Diini...Siyaad Barre (aun) counts 5 from Diini...the average is 6 names to Diini.

1760??? Diini was born in the same century as sugulle then..so I assume the average number a person who is alive now counts from sugulle is 6..
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Sadeboi, the average present day reer sugalle person counts about 8 - 9 to sugalle.
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and the furtherst person from him? like is there someone who counts like 10 or 12 names from sugulle?
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I am not sure about that one because they are alot of families and 21 jilibs.
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The present Sultaan since 1994 is Sultaan Cismaan Sultaan Cali Sultaan Madar Sultaan Xirsi Amaan sultaan Diiriye Sugule Caynaashe his cousin Sultaan Maxamed Xirsi Ghani traces 8 to Caynaashe.

The Cheif Ogaadeen Ugaas till 2007 was Ugaas Cabdulaahi Ugaas muxumad Ugaas Xaashi Faratoon Ugaas Nuur Cabdhuiye Ugaas Warfaa Ugaas Magan Ugaas Warfaa.

8 geneartions more or less depening to what decedant we trace will give us an approximatly around 1750 when they lived.

The problem with Ogaadeen genealogy is it depends on who you aske and they are not sure who was Ugaas and who was the grand son of an Ugaas, they add the title Ugaas aribteraly, notice how i excluded Amaan from the sultante because Amaan was not a sultan but a son of a sultan and a father of a sultan during his life his brother Jaamac Diiriye was the sultan. I could of called Suggulle and Caynaashe sultans in the grand way of the Daarood, but thats a historical fallacy during Suguule time sultaan Guuleed of the Ciidagale was the sultan of the Habar Yoonis.

The Ogaadeen make a mistake in just retracing the current Ugaas genealogy and then adding the title of Ugaas to all his ancestors to Ugaas Warfaa, much like the Dhulbahnate who even call Shirshoore Cabdalle Muuse Siciid Harti a Garaad and even going into calling Siciid Harti their founder a Garaad, a Garaad how and for whom to his yet to be born sons??
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A-Caynaashe Xirsi Cismaan:
1-Axmed Ceynaashe
2-Liibaan Ceynaashe
3-Sugulla Ceynaashe ( 18 sections)
4-Guutaale Caynaashe (? sections)5-Guuleed Caynaashe
6-Xirsi Caynaashe
7-Samaale Caynaashe
8-Faarax Caynaashe
9-Ciise Caynaashe
10-Butiye Caynaashe
11-Maygaag caynaashe
12-Kooshin Caynaashe
13-Cumar caynaashe (? sub sections)
14-Cigaal Caynaashe
15-Cabdi Caynaashe
16-Suubaan Caynaashe
17-Wacays Caynaashe.



B- Sugulle Caynaashe 18 sub sections.
1-Diiriye
2-Rooble
3-Wacays
4-Axmed
5-Maxmed
6-Maxmuud
7-Naaleeye
8-Faarax "Geele"
9- Ducaale



C- Diiriye Suugle ( 21 sub sections)
1- Amaan (10 sections)
2- Jaamac (4 sections) those 2 are called Baha Makaahiil (Sacad Muuse)
3- Baha Diirye are 19 i will count them as soon as i found out the names.


D- Amaan Diiriye Suguule (10)

1- Xirsi
2- Ismaaciil (this the most numerous of the reer Amaan)
3- Axmed
4- Fidhin
5- Yeey
6-Faraax
7-Magan
8-
9-
10-


13-Cumar caynaashe (? sub sections)

4-Guutaale Caynaashe (?sections)

Comming soon... lets see what the Ogaadeen boys bring so far.
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