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Jesteye wrote:
I've none. I just think , the whole proposal shows Marehan politicians delusional ways of thinking. In my view, they need to do a deal with the Cayr and make the state reality by partnering with Cayr and creating Galgadud State/Something. Plus, offending the clans e.g., Cayr, Dir, & Saleban by claiming shared settlements is bad policy, if you ask me.

Sheeko macaan Jecel (Dacas) Jeesteye...

So your saying Galinsoor is ilkoyar free but xeeraale, (Dir land) Dhuusamareeb (Cayr land) and Dhabad (Saleeban deegaan) is shared?

Galinsoor, Xeeraale, Dhuusamareeb and Dhabad have nothing to do with Ilkoyar. The only place Ilkoyar can be found in central Somalia is the tiny tuulo of Caabudwaaq.
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Air Canada wrote:
Jesteye wrote:
I've none. I just think , the whole proposal shows Marehan politicians delusional ways of thinking. In my view, they need to do a deal with the Cayr and make the state reality by partnering with Cayr and creating Galgadud State/Something. Plus, offending the clans e.g., Cayr, Dir, & Saleban by claiming shared settlements is bad policy, if you ask me.

Sheeko macaan Jecel (Dacas) Jeesteye...

So your saying Galinsoor is ilkoyar free but xeeraale, (Dir land) Dhuusamareeb (Cayr land) and Dhabad (Saleeban deegaan) is shared?

Galinsoor, Xeeraale, Dhuusamareeb and Dhabad have nothing to do with Ilkoyar. The only place Ilkoyar can be found in central Somalia is the tiny tuulo of Caabudwaaq.
Ilkoyar Free?!

You sound like you got a deep hatred for Beesha Marehan, did they killed your father?

As for Sacad being "Dacas". Beesha Sacad is a million miles away from being "Dacas". And how many times you flip the letters of the word "Sacad" - you're only wasting your time. Now, Go and get your other user-name pretending to be SACAD (Galia).

Anyway!

I'll leave you to be.
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Jesteye

Sxb don't bother with this multi-nicking nutjob sxb. This shemale's life revolves around somnet and has no idea how things are back home.
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Waxaan maqli jiray nin waalan tolkii baa u fayoow...But whoever said that Maah-Maah forgot to exclude the Ilka-Yar from that list. There is not one single decent and open-minded Ilka-Yar. How the hell can they claim Gelin-Soor, Xeraale and DhuusaMareeb. Walee waa yaab. dadku ma falin yihiin. Ma jinbaa maray. Maxay umada ay dariska yihiin dadkooda masaakiinta ugu diryayaan...People like Xoosh Kibray should refrain from making enemies for the few and always hungary Ilka-Yars in Caabud-Waaq and Balanbale. Xoosh-Kibray should try going to Ceyr heartland and claim Dhuuso-Mareeb...Walee in xaaranta calooshiisa ka buuxda laga soo qufi. I think Ilka-Yars need a new Ugaas or decent elder to save them from extinction.

Air Canada,
The Ilka-Yars think everyone is Ogaadeen because they would always trick us by playing the Daarood card. We lost cities like Baardheere because of our generosity. They think they can fool all the people all the time....
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^ Really? Couldn't help yourself huh? Just had to log in with your other nick and comment? SMDH!
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War nibanyahoow is XaarSade calling me a "shemale" mase he's talking about someone else?

Odaygii ilkayarta ugu weynaa aa sidaan akhlaaqda uga lunsan tahay. Lugteyda sedexaad aa madaxa ween kaaga garaaca hooyada wase faan gabdheed hadaa iila timaadid.

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Ugaaskeyga (wiil Ogaden) waa ku salaamay brother. Somalida waxee ku maah maahan "shimbirkii duul duul badan madax shabeel oo ku dagaa" ilkoyar waxaa loo yaaba markee dhul eesan laheen sheegtaan in Central Somalia but it is one thing for an ilkoyar clown who happens to be in qurbaha to claim a region that has nothing to do with his people and another thing to act upon your claim. I don't think Ilkoyar in Caabudwaaq are foolish enough to run their mouths like that of the fool in Europe.
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Waxa la yaableh Hutuyada iska calaacalaya

Ma waxay ka calaacalayan cida leh Dhusamareb? Dumb Hutus. Dusamareb xarunti Marehan ayee ahayd in 1970.

Waqtigi SYL in 1960 2 Xildbano ayaa laga so doortay and both Xildibano were Marehan, qaas ahaan Rer Dini.

Mid wuxu ahaa Bare Hirale adeerkiis Ali Shire Warsame iyo Daud Dirir walaalkiis Mahad Dirir

Car sheeg hal Hutu xildibaan laga soo doortay Dhusamareb in 1960.

Teeda kale, Dhusamareb hada waxay hoy u noqotay Hutu refugees from Mogadishu. Meesha waa desert oo waxna ma yaalan

Caasamadii Galgadud beri hore ayaa Abudwaq laga dhigay

The city of Abudwak is believed to be the largest commercial city in the whole of Galgadud region.
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Truth be told Marexaans don't settle in Gelinsoor and Dhuusamareeb anymore, a mareexaan claiming those cities is like an OG claiming Baardheere
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Abdalla,
Your comparison is completely off on this. Dhuusa-Mareeb, Gelinsoor and Xeraale have never been majority Ilka-Yar cities. Yes Dhuuse Mareeb sent Mareexaan MP two times during the civilian goverment but it has always been a Ceyr city. My own uncle was once the Police Chief in Galgaduud region and I know the clan ownships about Galgaduud. In contrast, Baardheere is Cawlyahan city even today because if you leave the city few miles from each direction, you will see the true natives of the city; Cawlyahan. Once the Ogadenia situation is resolved, we are going to have some talks with Ilka-Yars.
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:lol: :lol: how can U talk about Gelinsor when 2 Wagardha are on this site and theyre both Rer Gelinsor :lol: :lol: :lol:

This nigga Guhad's waaba comedian. he's still going strong with his anti Marehan cuqdad after 5 years. War iska naso. Uve bigger problems to worry about than Ilkoyar ruling U
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Re: Marehan Politicians and "Somali" Central State.

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Jesteye wrote:
Ilkoyar Free?!

You sound like you got a deep hatred for Beesha Marehan, did they killed your father?.
Good job Jesteye. :up: Also listen to both Xoogsade as well as the man who spoke, no one is interested in fighting over barren lands however Marehan are taking the initiative to unite themselves and their neighbors into a functioning, multi-clan, plural society state. Bartamaha state is not Marehan only and by claiming those lands, they are not claiming it for Marehan. They are claiming it for Central State. I mean even now all those lands are under one entity (Ahlu Sunnah) which rules it from Caabudwaaq. It's basically the same thing.
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The problem is Air Canada, is one of those extinct, langaab Hutu clans. Any sort of cross qabiil inititive, He will not get His slice of the pie. No matter sidi wax loo qeybsanaayo, He'll be left out :lol:
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cross qabiil initiative, multi-clan society ?Lololol i dont know if people here are being fake or just plain clueless, either case this is expected in Snet and whether people choose to discuss what is really going on or not, ultimately it will not have any bearing on the reality.
this whole thing was started by a new group (SDSI) and by no means do they represent the proud people of western Galgaduud, thus their proposals concerning these deegans are just as unimportant as the Galmudug cheering Gedodian(on youtube).

Habar Gidir have always been our South Eastern neighbours but we are certainly not interested in joining them in any "state" bringing further uncertainty to an already intricate region, this ofcourse does not prevent us from working together and it is very likely that ASWJ continues it security works in conjunction with common course neighbours(mainly Ceyr in East and Xawadle in South) to remove the security threat and further insure safety in the region.
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Jesteye wrote:
snoop12 wrote:Lol Lol Lol

Gelinsoor is different from Xeraale which in turn is different from Dhusamareb, in the case of Dhusamareb it is well known Marexan populated and regulated the place right up to the early 1970s where power was taken away from Marexan by the hand of the Kacaan and given to random people disregarding the Tribal order. prior to this event Marexan settlers were already on the move to Kismaayo and Xamar in the 1950s and early 1960s, this allowed natural repopulation of a deserted Dhusamareb in the Kacaan era where tribal fences were broken.

the city still remained Marexan dominant but with a significant majority Ceyr immigrants, 1990s USC was on the move and naturally people left their properties in Dhusamareb and moved to nearby Caabudwaaq were a strong front defeated the USC. obviously the USC practically ate the city as they did Xamar, but the land is still awaiting its rightful owner.

Gelinsoor is totally different, a coalition of MJ-Hawiye fought Wagardac and the fighting continued back and forth to this day. Xeraale used to be a dugsi with a Dir teacher who married from Marexan, his decendants with other immigrant Dir made Xeraale a roadside Tuulo that only recently turned hostile against its Marexan surroundings.

in short, Gelinsoor we are actively engaged, Xeraale remains the Ghetto in Marexanland, and Dhusamareb which has lost its significant position over to Caabudwaaq has only its symbolic value left.
Name one Marehan Family in Galinsor?

I think, I am the only one here that can claim to have visited Galinsor 2009. The delusional Marehan politicians need to wake up from SRC dreams. This is 2010 Not 1975!

As for Galinsor, You know and all Marehan know, the land is located in SACAD TERRITORY. Galinsor is about 35 km away from Cadaado and 95 km away from Cabudwaaq. To claim Galinsor, Marehan first needs to capture the Dir inhabit areas, Saleban inhabit areas (including Cadaado) and than, Galinsor.

Good Luck.
Marexan use to settle in Ximan & Xeeb but that is traditional land and has nothing to do with the current demographics, Dhusamareb, Xeraale and Gelinsoor on the otherhand is and has for houndreds of years been Marexan and just because of the mischief the USC brought along with it does not mean people will leave their land for good, peaceful method will be used to give back ownership to its rightful hand just like the ICU did in Xamar, im not denying anyone the land they build but rather the several cases of theft of property and land.
ASWJ rejected the SDSI rightfully, and i support that because SDSI are virtually unknown and they have difficult time even convincing the people in the Diaspora, i dont think any sensible person will support their exploitation of the circumstances in the worst time.

but watch this space, what was stolen will be returned.
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Re: Marehan Politicians and "Somali" Central State.

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guhad122 wrote:Abdalla,
Your comparison is completely off on this. Dhuusa-Mareeb, Gelinsoor and Xeraale have never been majority Ilka-Yar cities. Yes Dhuuse Mareeb sent Mareexaan MP two times during the civilian goverment but it has always been a Ceyr city. My own uncle was once the Police Chief in Galgaduud region and I know the clan ownships about Galgaduud. In contrast, Baardheere is Cawlyahan city even today because if you leave the city few miles from each direction, you will see the true natives of the city; Cawlyahan. Once the Ogadenia situation is resolved, we are going to have some talks with Ilka-Yars.
Exactly, losing the outskirts is worse than losing the city in Somali culture. Because if you lose the outskirts/baadiyaha it means the natives are ousted from there
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