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Re: Samatar's case
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:26 pm
by Executive
marcassmith wrote:Very Positive news. The very fact that former heads of state receive no immunity is indeed wonderful development. Now all those who were intent on causing genocide, or were responsible for killing innocent people the world over can face the court without being shielded under immunity. This will at least give the claimants some form of a level-playing field and access to fair trail.
Including the former senior NSS Officer, the current Somaliland president??
Re: Samatar's case
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:28 pm
by FAH1223
xoogsade, this isn't even a criminal case... its a civil suit...
Re: Samatar's case
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:28 pm
by grandpakhalif
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Grandpapa,
Court cases are headed your way
Shaamboo,
I am also forwarding this article to my Rer Mahad Habaryar whose husband was killed because of being accused of being a SSDF sympathizer.
Justice is coming.
Come on AW, I know of Marehans who claimed to be HG harrassed by the Marehan boogeymen, just to gain asylum. Luckily my father said he would never lower himself like that

Re: Samatar's case
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:29 pm
by shaamboo
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Grandpapa,
Court cases are headed your way
Shaamboo,
I am also forwarding this article to my Rer Mahad Habaryar whose husband was killed because of being accused of being a SSDF sympathizer.
Justice is coming.
sxb my uncle was killed as ssdf member, you dont see us complain and sue . this is my theory Once u pick a rifle u make a choice of to kill or been killed.
what is next ? a bank robber who is complaining becouse he got caught!!
Re: Samatar's case
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:30 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Grandpapa,
We never got asylum after 1991

Re: Samatar's case
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:30 pm
by Aristokraft
xoogSADE14 wrote:lol@ Aristokraft
I can't believe these transgendered species think the General is facing jail time.
You devil.

Re: Samatar's case
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:31 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Shaamboo.
Sadly, her husband was not a fighter nor did he know the SSDF but even if he did, doesn't qualify him being executed merely on suspicion ?
Re: Samatar's case
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:32 pm
by xoogSADE14
FAH1223 wrote: this isn't even a criminal case... its a civil suit...
I know abti, but good luck explaining that to these knucle draggers here.
lol@ Aristo
Ina adeer, wallahi I'm all for trying every single person who has committed atrocities back home laakiinse to selectively go after some individuals while ignoring others cidaan ka dhageeysanaayo malaha.
Re: Samatar's case
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:34 pm
by shaamboo
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Shaamboo.
Sadly, her husband was not a fighter nor did he know the SSDF but even if he did, doesn't qualify him being executed merely on suspicion ?
sxb how many innocent people got excuted in somalia from 1991 to today?? everyone is to blame not one person or qabill.
Re: Samatar's case
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:34 pm
by GENERAL_SNM
xoogSADE14 wrote:lol@ Aristokraft
I can't believe these transgendered species think the General is facing jail time.
You better keep your head or it could be you next....
Koronto sxb, how can you be a munaafaq and a muslim at the same time. This man was the second in command of a government that systematic killed its citizens without any due process. At least the peace of sh!t is getting that which is more then his victims got from him. My question is dont you think your a hypocrite when you wont alllow a man accused to prove his innocence. Wa munaafaqnimo tasi, let him prove his innocence if he is innocent.
Re: Samatar's case
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:35 pm
by grandpakhalif
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Grandpapa,
We never got asylum after 1991

AW, how'd you get in the states? You were Caydiid's most loyal subject.

Re: Samatar's case
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:35 pm
by AbdiWahab252
xoogSADE,
Samatar is the most visible and highest ranking official. Once you nail a big war criminal like him, it will follow down to the minor fish.
Justice is coming
P.S. Civil suits are just as effective. Imagine seeing your personal assets being seized in a judgment and being forced to conceal your assets to avoid payment will force you to leave the states.
Re: Samatar's case
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:36 pm
by Aristokraft
xoogSADE14 wrote:Ina adeer, wallahi I'm all for trying every single person who has committed atrocities back home laakiinse to selectively go after some individuals while ignoring others cidaan ka dhageeysanaayo malaha.
That's my instance as well. Simple common sense goes a long way these days, unfortunately.
Re: Samatar's case
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:37 pm
by shaamboo
SNM answer me one thing
why did ur people start war if they act like candho?? if they can win?
Re: Samatar's case
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:37 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Grandpapa,
Scholarship saxiib.
Shaamboo,
Abti, this case is not limited to qabiil. Why are you changing your tune now ? There were people here who cheered the pursuit of Caydiid (AUN), the arrest of Ayatollah Abdi Hasan Awale, etc yet when it comes to persecuting the founders of organized human rights violations i.e. the Barre regime, it becomes an issue ?