AbdiWahab252's DNA Results

[Ganjaweed]

Where did they migrate south from and when roughly?

Well we don't know, but we can guess.
From inferring from Egyptian and Sudanese samples some people estimate something like 8,000 years ago.

I don't think IRONm@n has said what clan he belongs to.

So the ancestors of most of the modern somalis moved south 8,00 years ago from north africa (Libya and Egypt)? How come we look nothing like them, is it due to millenia of admixture?

[James Dahl]

Where did they migrate south from and when roughly?

Well we don't know, but we can guess.
From inferring from Egyptian and Sudanese samples some people estimate something like 8,000 years ago.

I don't think IRONm@n has said what clan he belongs to.

So the ancestors of most of the modern somalis moved south 8,00 years ago from north africa (Libya and Egypt)? How come we look nothing like them, is it due to millenia of admixture?

No, 8,000 years ago from Sudan, and possibly earlier.

There wasn't just one migration, the migration I was referring to is merely the ancestors of the Somali branch of the people carrying the E-V32 mutation, the common ancestor of Berbers and Somalis was much, much further back in history, back before the Ice Age ended even, when the Sahara Desert was the Sahara Plain.

[Murax]

James,

So the Haplogroup doesn't necesssairly mean You share a common anscestor, but the dys codes do?

[James Dahl]

James,

So the Haplogroup doesn't necesssairly mean You share a common anscestor, but the dys codes do?

Oh no the haplogroup DOES show that you share a common ancestor, both show that people share common ancestors, the difference is that your haplogroup is ancient history, the ancestor of E1b1b1a1b lived thousands upon thousands of years ago.

DYS markers and haplogroups work together. For instance if you know you and another fellow have the same haplogroup, you can compare DYS markers to determine how long ago that ancestor lived. If your DYS markers have diverged over time, then the ancestor lived long, long ago, whereas if they are all exactly the same then that ancestor lived in historical times.

[GeoDesic]

Congrats Abdiwahab Son of Somali. Question is, Since your clan Sacad is historically linked to Ogaden, would an Ogaden person get the same results? That would be interesting.



Hyperactive

Did they get yours done?

[AbdiWahab252]

Murax,

Have you taken the test ?

FAH,

I am a native Alhamdullilahi !


Basra,

Ironman is Ogaden. Enuff said.


Geodisc,

Based on the results of those folks who have taken it: Hyper, Dawwa9 and Ironman, I am the closest to Ironman and Sheik Hyper but we differ slightly. The Ogaden are definitely not the offspring of Darood Jeberti Ismaciil.

So therefore like I had deduced, Ogaden are natives and not of Middle Eastern descent like Dawwa9 who is a true Darood.

Now its time to peel away Ogaden from the Darood camp

[Murax]

Abdiwahab,

This whole thing sounds interesting


Fyi, Dawwa oops I mean Muuse, You Guys might have similar results

[shidow1]

Dont worry about him....the man is my abti....

[Ganjaweed]

No, 8,000 years ago from Sudan, and possibly earlier.

There wasn't just one migration, the migration I was referring to is merely the ancestors of the Somali branch of the people carrying the E-V32 mutation, the common ancestor of Berbers and Somalis was much, much further back in history, back before the Ice Age ended even, when the Sahara Desert was the Sahara Plain.

James, what about this?

"The E-M78 mutation is thought to have occurred about 18,600 years ago (17,300 - 20,000 years ago), with some possibility that it may have been more recent.[Note 1]

Based on genetic STR variance data, Cruciani et al. (2007) suggests that this subclade originated in "Northeastern Africa", which in the study refers specifically to Egypt and Libya.[Note 2][Note 3]"


Similarly, Battaglia et al. (2008) describe Egypt as "a hub for the distribution of the various geographically localized M78-related sub-clades" and, based on archaeological data, they propose that the point of origin of E-M78 (as opposed to later dispersals from Egypt) may have been in a refugium which "existed on the border of present-day Sudan and Egypt, near Lake Nubia, until the onset of a humid phase around 8500 BC. The northward-moving rainfall belts during this period could have also spurred a rapid migration of Mesolithic foragers northwards in Africa, the Levant and ultimately onwards to Asia Minor and Europe, where they each eventually differentiated into their regionally distinctive branches". Towards the south, Hassan et al. (2008) also explain evidence that some subclades of E-M78, specifically E-V12 and E-22, "might have been brought to Sudan from North Africa after the progressive desertification of the Sahara around 6,000-8,000 years ago"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup ... 29#Origins

[Hyperactive]

ade AW i hate to say it but according to experts me and ironman dont related at least last couple thousand years!!

either me sheekato or clan instruction of somalis is federation and not bloodline. i believe the later.

[Nabeela]

So based on the results of those who have taken the DNA, only Dawaa9 is different so far, hmmm very strange.

[Hyperactive]

this dna is most stupid and redicioul thing ive ever done,
i advice others to not waste their money! it just telling us what we already knew which is we're somalis,.

i think dawa tricked us to waste our money, ninku armo la shaqeya this company, he seems more knowledgable about these things than avarage farah.lol

[Air Canada]

Abdiwahab

Are you saying Ogaden are Sacad and not the other way around?

One of the non-Sacad, HabarGidir here should take the test to see if Sacad are related to HabarGidir, which i don't think they are.

Where is guhad so he can now embrace his long lost Ogaden brother? Abdiwahab's Ogadenimo has been confirmed.

From this moment forward, you CANNOT speak on behalf of Hawiye or HabarGidir sxb.

[GeoDesic]

Bro Hyper, your sentiment isn't shared by many. Whereas you believed Somalis to be of one blood and from one father, many religiously hold on to stories of how their father journeyed from Yemen/Syria and they are Arabs in origin. U fiirso, even in this very forum, some are still hoping a different result, you can tell their unease. I wouldn't be surprised if some are sitting on thier results and not sharing


Abdiwahab

So far everyone who posted showed the same results bro, Somalis are all related, native to their land, and not Arabs. Thanks again for sharing your Results.
Nabeela


Why is it strange? Think about how you can tell a somali when you spot one in downtown or anywhere, there is reason why you can tell who is somali or who looks like a somali without knowing their clan first, they are all related sis.



Aircanada


Waa runtaa, would be nice to have the results of An Abgaal, Saleban, Shiikhaal, Mareexaan, Dhulbahante, And Majeerteen. That would give us a complete picture.

[dawwa9]

So based on the results of those who have taken the DNA, only Dawaa9 is different so far, hmmm very strange.

Bloody amateurs

I share exact haplotypes with a couple of Habesha on FamilyTreeDNA.com, I believe J2b2 is a Neolithic Ethiopian haplogroup, now get off my back it’s not a dirty Arab gene.

Lame ass Somalis, and Darood is a faggot who never existed.