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Voltage wrote:

malakumod wrote:professor samatar exposed all of this so called somaliland's manfuctured history and the distortions that these secessionists have been spoon feeding the off-springs for the last 20 years

Wallahi the professor waa nin dhaarsan. He sat there calmly and destroyed every excuse the one guy put up. The most damning were the ones about setting the act of union straight, the standing climate that led to the 1991 "referendum" and finally the part where he talks about the tribal corruption around 23 min. Lakin he is from there and has a right to contest. I support them to separate.

malakumod wrote:

khalid ali wrote:

malakumod wrote:professor samatar exposed all of this so called somaliland's manfuctured history and the distortions that these secessionists have been spoon feeding the off-springs for the last 20 years

Samatar didn’t visit his mother who died few years back never even attented the burial he never went to Somaliland for 27 years he was living outside his country , little he knows about Somaliland, and its constitution and its referendum , or Somaliland politics

do real belief that.
ok this professor samatar arguement.
firstly this so called somaliland's constitution is nothing more than clan document designed for a particular group or clan.
secondly, this so called referendum was only voted for by a particular clan. for example the people in SSC did not cast a single ballot.
thirdly 'somaliland's' politics is nothing but mere tribal politics. ie beesh reer hebel baa kulmiye ku biirtay.lool or wasiirka beesha reer hebel.
and finally people like mr samatar who object to this clan lead secession are not allowed to express their views. are you tell me mr samatar would be allowed to raise the somali falg in hargeysaa.
sxb if you believe in this propaganda and the manufactured history of this clan project that your problem but dont try to make it out as if it were real democracy.

and finally people like mr samatar who object to this clan lead secession are not allowed to express their views. are you tell me mr samatar would be allowed to raise the somali falg in hargeysaa.

khalid ali wrote:

senoritaa wrote:Well his accent does not matter, only the substance of what he is saying. I'm sure you have a perfect faqash-american accent but you chat shit

Exactly its all about how he makes him self understandable , not about his accent

malakumod wrote: what made laugh was when the tried to indict that these so called election were the first for the horn and mr. samatar was like no sxb dont try that. there was free elections in somalia in 1961,1964 and 1969. 25 years before any african country. .

Voltage wrote:

malakumod wrote: what made laugh was when the tried to indict that these so called election were the first for the horn and mr. samatar was like no sxb dont try that. there was free elections in somalia in 1961,1964 and 1969. 25 years before any african country. .

Hala yaabin. Just two years ago, every Isaaq kid on this site believed an Isaaq man invented the Somali script, an Isaaq man flew the first aircraft in Somalia, an Isaaq man made the anthem, an Isaaq man made the design of the Somali flag, heck there are some that believe the longest serving president in Somalia was "Isaaq". Through them I found out there is a pervasive effort in the Isaaq community to make the Isaaq kids feel good about being Isaaq. The problem is it just means the older generation peddling the lies have to be insecure themselves to drill been hawaas in the kids.

Timo_Case wrote:I noticed those who hate and dont believe in somaliland, when they talk about the good things somaliland has done, they put it as northern somalia, laakin when they talk about the negetive aspects they quickly rush to 'somaliland'..

The worse enemy to somaliland, are those within. Samatar and his entire family should be deported

malakumod wrote: well the problem was not his accent or his english, the problem for him and (somaliland) was that his fallacies and somaliland manufactured tribal history was destroyed by learned man that is professor samatar.

khalid ali wrote:

Timo_Case wrote:I noticed those who hate and dont believe in somaliland, when they talk about the good things somaliland has done, they put it as northern somalia, laakin when they talk about the negetive aspects they quickly rush to 'somaliland'..

The worse enemy to somaliland, are those within. Samatar and his entire family should be deported

Cidii ba kama joogta somaliland wey ka qaxeeen somaliland

khalid ali wrote:

Timo_Case wrote:I noticed those who hate and dont believe in somaliland, when they talk about the good things somaliland has done, they put it as northern somalia, laakin when they talk about the negetive aspects they quickly rush to 'somaliland'..

The worse enemy to somaliland, are those within. Samatar and his entire family should be deported

Cidii ba kama joogta somaliland wey ka qaxeeen somaliland

SahanGalbeed wrote:Look here , adiga oo Voltage ah , maxaad inaga soo doonta ?
Beenta weeye markaad leedahay , waan idin fasaxay , Somaliland iney goosato raali baan ka ahay , niic niic .
Faqash xun baad tahay , anagu adiga fasax kaa qaadan mayno , qasab baynu kaaga saarnay waddankii.
Orodoo kaariyoone waaq intaad isa soo taagto , cidii kugu timaada inaga sug !

Hadal ku ma' haysaan meeshan , qodob laga doodi karo ku la iman maayan , markaasey ku odhanayaan maxaad inoo caydaan , taaso miidhan weye faqashata dhasheedu .

A few days after meeting him, I head back to the presidential compound to attend the army day ceremonies. On one side of the hall are dozens of newly trained recruits, all in uniforms and boots supplied by the foreign powers that trained them, from France to Sudan and Djibouti....

On the wall at the front a projector shows a film in sepia shades of a Somali army parade, men dressed in camouflage or beige uniforms marching in perfect rhythm, followed by tanks, trucks and artillery pieces, and planes passing in the sky, accompanied by the commentary of a deep-voiced man. The image moves from the parade ground to the stands to show the former president Siad Barre in dark sunglasses.

At this, the hall erupts in applause and cheers for the former president. The film was from the late 1970s, when Somalia had one of the strongest armies in Africa, explains one of the officers next to me.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ju ... r-al-qaida

SahanGalbeed wrote:malukumood

and finally people like mr samatar who object to this clan lead secession are not allowed to express their views. are you tell me mr samatar would be allowed to raise the somali falg in hargeysaa.

One cannot equally raise the nazi flag in deutchland , does that not make it a democracy ?

Secondly the guy didnt say that these electionns were the first in the Horn of Africa or somalia for that matter, he knows it very well we in somaliland already had a couple . He said Somaliland was having free and democratic elections and "THAT IS WHAT SETS IT APART FROM ITS NEIGHBOUR" .
Samatar had to interject the part where Somalia had elections in the 1960s blahblahblahblah .