The difference between Italy & Britain

[Samatr]

The people living there play a big role too, you drop some Somalis there and it will go boom.

[Voltage]

The problem is the south is rich and fertile and has historical cities (Mogadishu, Merka, Brava, Kismayu) so the Italians found a prize while the north was and is largely rural, regional, with less cosmopolitan people so the British just used it as an animal warehouse for their prized colony in Aden.

It is not that the Italians build better, it is that the Italians had an incentive (much as the world now only cares about the south) while the British had no reason to build there.

[Siciid85]

Where is Berbera, capital of Ancient berberia and Zeylac capital and centre of education and Islamic studies in East Africa for centuries and as late as during the Ottoman Empire. Your history is bias which is expected of you.

The Italians were kind in building cities for yall and leaving much behind for zomalis, but at the same token they were more racist and done terrible things to southern zoomalis in the form of slavery. You have heard of the human bridge crossings. The italians also done alot of sleeping around with Somali women in the south. Alot of Italian Somali Italian bastards are/were still living in south.

The brits didn't have the same go at us. Thanks to our elders who laid out clear ultimatums. Which were if the brits wish to make us their protectorate they would have to adhere to certain rules among them not intermarrying the local populations and most importantly not having any kids born in Somaliland. In the entire time they were there only few kids were born in somaliland.

The point you made regarding The South being more fertile and has had historical cities and that being due the Italian building stuff . Well I can't but laugh at how idiotic taht sounds. Tinier, hotter Djabouti has been home to French colony and they stayed there and build stuff for them just like the South. The Italians also built stuff for Eritrea and if you see their city like Asmara you would think it's Xamar judging from the architecture.

I also believe Somalilanders be it Isaaq, darood were more hostile and aware of the Empirical of the Brits while the South populace were more willing to accept Italian rule.

[Cirwaaq]

We are more trusting of the words of strangers. Our people have always believed others come to us to benefit us.

We need more paranoi like others then maybe we will avoid trusting every stranger.

[Samatr]

The problem is the south is rich and fertile and has historical cities (Mogadishu, Merka, Brava, Kismayu) so the Italians found a prize while the north was and is largely rural, regional, with less cosmopolitan people so the British just used it as an animal warehouse for their prized colony in Aden.

It is not that the Italians build better, it is that the Italians had an incentive (much as the world now only cares about the south) while the British had no reason to build there.

If you call that caring, I'd hate to see your definition of neglect.
The world cares about the south alright, 20 years of caring and what is there to show for it.......?
eebbe ha idiin gargaadho.

[oldenglish]

The British protectorate wasnt a true colony. While the Italians scramble for Africa left them with Somalia and Eritrea. Where they made their presences as colonizers.

At the end the Warsangeli Sultanate refused British presence by resolved a bilateral agreement between the two came to be. One which two nations exercise which granted would be viable bases for an existence and recognized Warsangeli Country. However we havent gone that route yet. But when needed, if Somalia balkanizes the former powers of the leagues of Nations and their successors the UN will have a strong case to recognize a Warsangeli Country with its territorial markings outlined by the bilateral agreement made between us and the British.

[Siciid85]

^^^

Something we inherited from the Brits is the cool system of democracy. We took that and mixed it with Good ole fashion somali gogol xaadh qudhac hoostii outspoken nomadic democracy and so far worked out great for us. In contrast, the Italian mafia system of qub iyo qac has failed fellow brethers in the South...They can't solve a thing

ps. Samatr he is mixing caring and noticing. The world doesn't care about the South, they just noticing the failed status of Somalia. If they cared, Somalia would have been peaceful state by now and if you think they can't then think again. What is there to read about in Somaliland other than boring peaceful ordinary life in contrast to exciting, thrill violence that engulfs the South for 2 decades. It makes the ratings go up. I have never heard Switzerland or Norway on the news but have heard Iraq, Afghanistan, North Korea on the news daily. I'm sure because the world cares about them as well huh....

[Samatr]

There's a difference between caring and taking care of bizness, hadal macaan wax ma taro.

[Siciid85]

There's a difference between caring and taking care of bizness, hadal macaan wax ma taro.

Indeed.

[Voltage]

The problem is the south is rich and fertile and has historical cities (Mogadishu, Merka, Brava, Kismayu) so the Italians found a prize while the north was and is largely rural, regional, with less cosmopolitan people so the British just used it as an animal warehouse for their prized colony in Aden.

It is not that the Italians build better, it is that the Italians had an incentive (much as the world now only cares about the south) while the British had no reason to build there.

If you call that caring, I'd hate to see your definition of neglect.
The world cares about the south alright, 20 years of caring and what is there to show for it.......?
eebbe ha idiin gargaadho.

Cares as in "views the south more important" hence puts all of their attention there. The world knows a government in Hargeisa can never pass its jurisdiction beyond certain areas of the north while a government in Mogadishu can bring its jurisdiction to the border of Djibouti.

[Cali_Gaab]

The world knows a government in Hargeisa can never pass its jurisdiction beyond certain areas of the north while a government in Mogadishu can bring its jurisdiction to the border of Djibouti.

Sorry, we didn't get that memo.