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HutuKing01 wrote:the correct understanding of that hadith is: Prophet Muhammad pbuh made a duco for him which was understood as '' may Allah protect you from poverty and hunger''. This was truthful duco
waaar ninyooh qosol ayaad iguu dishay!!!
Could you please tell us the hadith and how that hadith come out!!
Please tells us why the prophet made that hadith and under which circumstance
Whoever asks a dead human weither prophet or non-prophet believing that they can help/benefit them has committed shirk . Also asking help from angels or jesus pbuh(who is still alive) is plain shirk.
lol Bro I think you need to learn the aqida of Ahlul sunnah Wa'l Jamac
Either read the works of Imaam Tahaawi, Imam Ashari, or Imam Matrudi
Brother, i take the kitab of Allah swt and ahaadith above their words
If they say that it is allowed to ask help from someone besides Allah swt.
Are you saying you understand the kitab of allah and sunnah of rasul better then the bulk of the ulema? I didn't say what these books say, but I merely suggested you go out and read them.
Perfect Order, if these scholars agree with quran and sunnah then there is no reason for me to disassociate myself from them:
Allah the Most Exalted said:
"And invoke not besides Allah any that will neither profit you nor hurt you, but if (in case) you did so, you shall certainly be one of the Zalimun (polytheists and wrongdoers). And if Allah touches you with hurt, there is none who can remove it but He; and if He intends any good for you, there is none who can repel His Favour which He causes it to reach whomsoever of His slaves He will. And He is the Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."
(10:106, 107)
If you ask, then ask Allah; and if you seek help, seek help from Allah. And know that if the nation were to gather together in order to give you some benefit, they would not bring you any benefit, except with what Allah has written for you.”
And your Lord said: “Invoke Me, (i.e. believe in My Oneness (and ask Me for anything) I will respond to your (invocation)…………..” (Quran: 40: 60)
And when My servants ask you (O Muhammad concerning Me, then answer them:), I am indeed near. I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on Me.
So let them obey Me and believe in Me, so that they may be led aright. (Surah al Baqarah v. 186.)
Why would a muslim ask from someone else(dead or alive) when there is Ar-Rahman who hears and sees us?
Is the true meaning of monotheism not to worship Allah swt, to seek His help alone? To make your supplication only for Allah?
I will give you a example, and you tell me weither this is shirk or islamic monotheism:
Ya Abu Bakr, help me. Ya Umar relieve me from difficulties.
Do you consider such to be shirk or islamic monotheism?
Waryaa dont you know arabs have shia daad also yemen saudi arabia lebanon syria iraq, persians aka iranians are not the only shias also in pakistan india afghanistan.
We just practise our faith differently and also Shi'as generally have this strong hate towards Sunni Islam and carry burdens from events of the past which may or may not have occurred. Sunnis on the other hand, for the most part, are blissfully unaware of Shi'a Islam, most Sunnis only know about the rock during prayer and the self harm during the month of Muharram that Shi'as do. That I think is the basic difference from my observation.