sex is a commodity protected by rule of law

[hanad_mn]

Zuleika,

waxay sex iyo waxa ay inantu kasheekeeneeso? aynu iswasno miyay tiri?

[Lord Diplock]

Zuleika,

waxay sex iyo waxa ay inantu kasheekeeneeso? aynu iswasno miyay tiri?

[xoogSADE14]

HalfD

Don't you think a husband has a right to his wife whenever he so chooses and the wife has to accept it barring any valid reasons?

[HalfDzed]

xoogSADE,

With all due respect, I disagree. Wives and women in general are not objects there to satisfy us at every turn. They're human beings and deserve decency. Furthermore, whenever I try to picture a wife, I picture a life companion, a future mother to my children, a friend, etc. I can't picture forcing myself on such a person or anyone else for that matter. If she says no, you find out why. I can bet you, most of the time, they have a very valid reason.

Besides, women have a completely different reproductive system than us and it takes a lot to even interest them.

Wouldn't you rather have a happy wife at home who respects you than one who resents you?

[ciyaal_warta]

وما ألله بظلم للعباد

[xoogSADE14]

HalfD

My apologies marka hore, for some reason gabar ayaan kuu maleeyay. Tan labaad, I was not asking this for me sxb as I have never needed to force myself on any woman and would rather much rather utilize a hole in the ground than force a woman against her will.

The thing is, these rules aren't open to personal feelings or different interpretations. If a wife turns down her husband's sexual advances without a valid reason and he goes to sleep agry with her Angels will be invoking Allah's punishment on her for the whole night.

Sisters need to think twice before imposing vajayjay sanctions on brothas.

[HalfDzed]

xoogSADE,

I get that a lot, ha isku wareerin.

We were all raised with the mentality that women had no feelings when it came down to sex and that wives could never refuse, etc. If she refuses, she's got more at stake than you, maxaa keenay buuq iyo is jiidid? You move on. That's always been my take on this issue.

[eyes-only]

when the rule of law is abandoned, taken forcefully by the wicked generally comes in the following forms:

1 man loots(goods)
2 man rapes(women)

women may not see themselves as walking commodities, but it is an extension of who we are...given involuntarily

agree or disagreee

i would love to hear from the sisters on their take of this.

please and thank you!

I think there are different elements to your question.
1. Is sex a commodity?
2. Is it protected by the rule of law?
3. Are women a commodity and or equate to sex?
4. Is the rule of law the only thing preventing men from going around looting and raping?

For the first question; Is sex is a commodity? I think it can be....it definitely is in the literal sense for those operating in that industry or drug addicts. But I don't think it (sex) is protected by the rule of law. I don't think the law says anything about who can have sex and who can't...the law protects people and anything that endangers the wider public but I don't think it protects the actual act.

Are women a commodity? NO....I think they used to be in some cultures....for example Somalis used to exchange women in their peace treaties. But I don't think women can be considered commodities in the present.

The final question is more complex....I think the rule of law definitely prevents some people from committing illegal acts but I don't think it is the only reason why men don't go around acting like animals. I think the ability to know what is right and wrong is innate in us and so most people would not go around doing things just because they can. Some would and they do in war-torn countries but I don't think most people would. Although I can't be sure if the judgement of the many is influenced by God's law and how they were brought up or if it really is just innate......I mean, would a person who was brought up with no laws have the same self restraint? I'm not really sure!


Do I agree or disagree? I disagree....because I don't consider myself a commodity and I certainly would not excuse such acts of violence as 'an extension of who we are' or they are....but that is just my personal subjective opinion.

[Murax]

Horta I don't think Men rape out of sexual pleasure. I mean How can a Man possibly enjoy Himself with a girl kicking, screaming, crying etc.


The only Guy who wouldn't mind all that, has to be someone who is pretty cold/wicked inside to begin with and just doesn't give a damn what the girl is going through.

[Alluring]

Horta I don't think Men rape out of sexual pleasure. I mean How can a Man possibly enjoy Himself with a girl kicking, screaming, crying etc.


The only Guy who wouldn't mind all that, has to be someone who is pretty cold/wicked inside to begin with and just doesn't give a damn what the girl is going through.

That is why they are called rapists.

[Lord Diplock]

Horta I don't think Men rape out of sexual pleasure. I mean How can a Man possibly enjoy Himself with a girl kicking, screaming, crying etc.


The only Guy who wouldn't mind all that, has to be someone who is pretty cold/wicked inside to begin with and just doesn't give a damn what the girl is going through.

That is why they are called rapists.

Murax, the rapist does not care what the girl is feeling or not, he only cares about himself.

[eyes-only]

Horta I don't think Men rape out of sexual pleasure. I mean How can a Man possibly enjoy Himself with a girl kicking, screaming, crying etc.


The only Guy who wouldn't mind all that, has to be someone who is pretty cold/wicked inside to begin with and just doesn't give a damn what the girl is going through.

bless

[Alluring]

Somali men are actually very scared of women's empowerment, as it is evident to this day they are still advocates of FGM. And will find any text to proof it is "halal" when it isn't.


Is it low self-esteem or something else?

[xoogSADE14]

All brownie points for Murax.

Alluring

Do you mean 'some somali men are scared of women's empowerment'?

[Alluring]

No. I mean ALL, even the ones who pretend they aren't.