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Executive wrote:BV

I didn’t wanna give an answer cause I knew you wouldn’t agre with it. And I was right you already dismissed the answer given by Udun. He defined it..

You are scared I am going to shoot it down

Come on udun's definition was neither here nor there, someone who is happy with their husband is a happy wife

Paddington Bear wrote:A doormat is not happy with her lot, a raaliyo is.

Someone who is happy being a doormat. I think that's what Exec and Udun are too scared to say

hyperactive wrote:as i understood, somali term of raaliya means: obeying/summitted women to her husband. what ever he says and do not question.

the real meaning as the word is arabic origin is: some one who is satisfied his possition or service he or she recieving.

Like what PB said. Thank you Hyper

bv, but original word is some one who does nothing and satisfied, as Allah discribed the souls in jannah: raliyatan marthiya.

totally different than somali usage.

retard somali dudes cant handle real women

hyperactive wrote:bv, but original word is some one who does nothing and satisfied, as Allah discribed the souls in jannah: raliyatan marthiya.

totally different than somali usage.

The Quran. Somali Edition, hyper translation.

raathiyatan marthiya, not raaliyatan.

P.S.
A raaliya is a positive doormat. It's a woman who is happy to defer to her man for the major decisions and would rather keep the peace than kick up a fuss. You are not one, you already ask far too many questions.

lol pb as i understood raliya is ta7reef le kalamat rathia/radhia

i dont think there is something in somali caled raliya, wa on rathia what they mean raaliya.

Raaliya: Has two meanings:

1. Pleasant women with no Jaq-Jaq to her husband...Whom her husband looks forward to coming home...

There was a song about this Raaliya..

Rasamaalka dunidiyo, raaliya ninkii helaa, raxaada ka waaree
etc etc

2. Yes women..No matter what he is, she is ok with it. If he is selling drugs she is ok, if he is drinking 24/7 she is ok..basically she is a doormat as you explained...
This one is not Raaliyo as I see it, but some people call her 'Raaliyo"

What ever she is she sounds acceptable

Is she the type that minds her own business when you need a second wife?

Then send her my way.

BlackVelvet wrote:

zulaika wrote:bv,

from your perspective, how would u define a "raaliyo" and could you be one?

I am serious, I actually believed a raaliyo to be a diplomat, one who negotiates without raising her voice or getting angry, someone who keeps the peace and tries to make sure that everyone is happy. I didn't think it had anything with cooking and cleaning

That's why when Nalia asked a while ago I was like there's nothing wrong with being raaliyo and if my definition were correct then yes I would be a raaliyo. Lakin now that I am starting to see what it means, being any man's shaaqalo is not in my future so no, I am not a raaliyo.

and what if "cooking and cleaning" is an extension of that state of understanding?

i think this whole notion of fixating on household chores to polarize women's rights has blindsided women from reaping the full benefit they can achieve from their relationships with their significant other.

to employ yourself in the capacity of diplomacy to keep the peace and make him happy...yet by the same token consider cooking and cleaning for a husband as "shaqaalo" is highly counterintuitive.

so by your definition, i think i agree in the sense that she is someone who is happy in her state of affairs while making her husband happy...

Zulaika made a good point, it is silly when women go on about household chores, is the man going to stop you and your children from eating the food you cooked? You benefit from your own work.

kambuli wrote:Raaliya: Has two meanings:

1. Pleasant women with no Jaq-Jaq to her husband...Whom her husband looks forward to coming home...

There was a song about this Raaliya..

Rasamaalka dunidiyo, raaliya ninkii helaa, raxaada ka waaree
etc etc

2. Yes women..No matter what he is, she is ok with it. If he is selling drugs she is ok, if he is drinking 24/7 she is ok..basically she is a doormat as you explained...
This one is not Raaliyo as I see it, but some people call her 'Raaliyo"

Interesting, to what is actually is and how it's used are two different things..thank you Kambuli

I think Zuliaka and kambuli I have a good understanding of it.

How I understood it, the people who truely needed raaliyo where the reer miyi. Having to live in the harsh conditions of the baadiye, and always traveling, you could not have two leaders, or else there would be confusion. Therefore, when a man would decide to move to a new area in the hope of finding new pasture land then the wife would have to follow as well as the kids. The women would accept the position, because she trusted that her husband who grew up as a child and learned the skills of survival from his father knew what was best. Harsh environment cannot accept disunity, so the family had to be one unit, but generally when their was abundance and survival wasn't at stake then things were very lose. In the city it is a less extreme case that was practiced.

Again I could be wrong in my own understanding.

Perfect_Order wrote: I think Zuliaka and kambuli I have a good understanding of it.

How I understood it, the people who truely needed raaliyo where the reer miyi. Having to live in the harsh conditions of the baadiye, and always traveling, you could not have two leaders, or else there would be confusion. Therefore, when a man would decide to move to a new area in the hope of finding new pasture land then the wife would have to follow as well as the kids. The women would accept the position, because she trusted that her husband who grew up as a child and learned the skills of survival from his father knew what was best. Harsh environment cannot accept disunity, so the family had to be one unit, but generally when their was abundance and survival wasn't at stake then things were very lose. In the city it is a less extreme case that was practiced.

Again I could be wrong in my own understanding.

Different environment same process. Someone has to make the difficult choices. Somebody has to have the last word!

zulaika wrote:
and what if "cooking and cleaning" is an extension of that state of understanding?

i think this whole notion of fixating on household chores to polarize women's rights has blindsided women from reaping the full benefit they can achieve from their relationships with their significant other.

to employ yourself in the capacity of diplomacy to keep the peace and make him happy...yet by the same token consider cooking and cleaning for a husband as "shaqaalo" is highly counterintuitive.

so by your definition, i think i agree in the sense that she is someone who is happy in her state of affairs while making her husband happy...

Then that is a contract that shouldn't be easily broken. So are you saying that you agreed from the beginning that you would do the all the "cooking and cleaning"?

PS

The reason why it comes back to the cooking and cleaning is because it is the only constant in our lives, everyone eats and everyone makes a mess, so it may come across as a fixation but it's rather a good example of how duties that should be shared are sometimes sidelined onto one party.

kambuli wrote:Raaliya: Has two meanings:

1. Pleasant women with no Jaq-Jaq to her husband...Whom her husband looks forward to coming home...

There was a song about this Raaliya..

Rasamaalka dunidiyo, raaliya ninkii helaa, raxaada ka waaree
etc etc

2. Yes women..No matter what he is, she is ok with it. If he is selling drugs she is ok, if he is drinking 24/7 she is ok..basically she is a doormat as you explained...
This one is not Raaliyo as I see it, but some people call her 'Raaliyo"

yep! taas bu nin kasta raba.