Jalalaqsi Massacre

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Warya Guuhad why are you creating lies? SNA had Ogaden and Majeerteen contingent so how is it possible that they would commit these atrocities against the Ogaden?
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GENERAL_SNM wrote:Whole cities in the north got levelled with men women and children killed and your talking about couple of hundred. Caaqli Ogadeen. If it wasn't for your support of Afwyeni and the abuse of power which made the locals in Hiraan act crazy no Ogadeen would have been killed. But you must share the responsibilty and admit your behavour towards the locals in Hiraan contributed greatly to the hostile atmosphere which led to the unfortunate death of innocent civillians. You were the O in the MOD did you somehow assume that once the government fell you would be left alone. I bet you guys were high on canobode as Toganne says.
Why talk about something you know absolutely nothing about? :|
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grandpakhalif wrote:Warya Guuhad why are you creating lies? SNA had Ogaden and Majeerteen contingent so how is it possible that they would commit these atrocities against the Ogaden?
This was way before SNA saaxiib; this was when SPM, Bashiir Bililiqo wing were fighting in J/hoose.

Not one time but too many times all the drinking wells in J/Hoose were poised because the administration believed the local clans were supporting SPM.
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Guhad, you are a liar saaxib. My family lived in Afmadow and Kismayo most of the 1980s and no wells were poisoned. But I expected that from you.
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Berke wrote:Guhad, you are a liar saaxib. My family lived in Afmadow and Kismayo most of the 1980s and no wells were poisoned. But I expected that from you.

Qofku haduusan Alle ka cabsaneeyn wax walbaa ka suurooba.
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My Uncle (Marexaan) was in BeledWeyne during that time, and He fled with His kids just in time. He mentioned how people were being thrown into the river. Actally it wasn't Ogadeen, it was any Darood period.
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guhad122 wrote:The massacre and genocide committed by Xawaadle thugs against fleeing refugees is something that needs to be told. The perpetrators of this horrible genocide need to be brought to the International Criminal Courts. What most people don't know is that fleeing Ogaden refugees were fully armed initially and were ready to defend themselves but the elders took very bad decision. Apparently the Xawaadle Ugaasses met with the Ogaden refugees elders and begged them to give them the weapons. They convinced the Ogaden elders to leave the weapons in Hiiraan because if they don't do that the enemy of Somalia would confiscate the weapons at the crossing points. The elders then ordered over 400 well-armed men to lay down their weapons and hand them over to the Xawaadle elders. As soon as they left their weapons, they got ambushed where people with no mercy and humanity even threw children as young as 6 months into the Shabeele river. Nobody has the exact numbers of the perished innocent refugees but I have seen reports from 500s to 2000s.

Sometimes when things like that happen, if it doesn't personally affect you, you wouldn't understand the magnitude of it. Walaahay I am telling you a true story. A good friend of mine and myself drove from San Diego to MN one summer. It was a nice ride as both of us were chewing fresh Miraa throughout the trip enjoying some old school Somali Kaban music. Somewhere along the highway, my friend, who was the passenger at the time, shutdown the radio, I thought he was just tired of the loud music. There was five minute silence. And then he said out of nowhere:
Geelle(his family's name): Do you know any Xawaadle
Guhad: Yeah lots of them; even some Xawaadle relatives; I asked why are you asking that? I thought some Xawaadle dude messed with his girlfriend or sister or something along those lines.
Geele: After another five minutes pause he emotionally uttered "If you hear one day Geelle went crazy and killed 20 Xawaadle, don't disbelieve".
Guhaad: Why what did they do to you; that hiiraan massacre wasn't even in my mind
Geelle: and then tears in his eyes he said " Do you know that 4-generations of one family I am the surviving one"
Guhaad: I just couldn't say anything. My body froze. I couldn't drive.

He then told me the story. His dad, grandfather, great-grandfather were killed that day. Killed were also some of his brothers, uncles and hundreds of his close relatives.
As a matter of fact his great grand father was one of the elders who instructed the refugees to give their weapons to Somalis instead of being confiscated by the Ethiopians.
After listening to his story, seeing his emotion and tears in his eyes, I got off the road telling him that I wanted to take a piss. I actually got so emotional that I stood behind a tree and cried silently for good 10 minutes. Here you have 23 year old Somali boy who lost an entire lineage of his family. I just couldn't believe.

While I wouldn't crusade for revenge, but I sometimes wonder if the mercilessly murdered refugees were from another Somali clan other than Ogaadeen? At least the news about the massacre would have been known around the world. Not even too many Ogadenis know about this? The world needs to know what happened that day? Who was responsible? Who gave the orders? Where were the Xawaadle elders? The surviving victims should all be interviewed and have their eyewitness accounts recorded. In my view, that was the single biggest massacre in Somali history. It would be stupid if Ogaden doesn't seek justice for these victims. The 6-month old babies who were thrown into the Shabeele river need justice because they couldn't even say a word.

The Geele family is well-known in MN and SD and back home in Ogadenia and Jubooyinka. They are originally from Qorexeey and QabriDahar.
I Know quite a few orhpans too from this massacre, I met some in Kenya brutal...they were told nothing would happen to them, all they had to do was surrender.

Sad day...any other would have unleashed a genocide on these Xawadle.
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Siyaad Barre unleashed Marexaan mercenaries on Ogadeen in Jubboyinka this is well-known, I wouldnt be surprised if they didnt poison wells.
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Murax wrote:My Uncle (Marexaan) was in BeledWeyne during that time, and He fled with His kids just in time. He mentioned how people were being thrown into the river. Actally it wasn't Ogadeen, it was any Darood period.
It was us who got massacred sxb, you know that and we know that as well.
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guhad122 wrote:Guess what iidoor, not one single Xawaadle was hurt. We, the Absame, people are known to be baarka(the top) when it comes to Somali customs and culture. We don't hurt defenseless and innocent people. Learn the history....
Get the fuck out of here, killing a bunch of unarmed Harti businessmen in Kismayo was justified? I'm glad Xawaadle taught your faggot people a lesson, never get in bed with someone you don't know. Wallahi I'm proud of my uncle Faroole for handing these savages back to their masters.
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Monk-of-Mogadishu wrote:
guhad122 wrote:Guess what iidoor, not one single Xawaadle was hurt. We, the Absame, people are known to be baarka(the top) when it comes to Somali customs and culture. We don't hurt defenseless and innocent people. Learn the history....
Get the fuck out of here, killing a bunch of unarmed Harti businessmen in Kismayo was justified? .
LOL Wallahi i saw him bragging about what Caasho Caydiid did to MJ´s in kismaayo. Little did they know that we don´t forget nor forgive
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Yet the poor OGs kiss MJ ass..
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Just several weeks ago, PIS allegedly charged two young men for supporting ONLF without any proof or attestation. After few days in their cells, both prisoners were reported dead. Several human rights activists are accusing PIS of basic human rights violations. The head of PIS is notorious for torturing and repatriating refugees and political asylums from the Ogaden region of Ethiopia. The UN Convention against Torture, in Sub article (l and 2) of Article 3,  clearly states that: "No State Party shall expel, return or extradite a person to another State where there are substantial grounds for believing that he would be in danger of being subjected to torture."
Yet you still perceive the poor sade nomads as your enemy
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grandpakhalif wrote:
Just several weeks ago, PIS allegedly charged two young men for supporting ONLF without any proof or attestation. After few days in their cells, both prisoners were reported dead. Several human rights activists are accusing PIS of basic human rights violations. The head of PIS is notorious for torturing and repatriating refugees and political asylums from the Ogaden region of Ethiopia. The UN Convention against Torture, in Sub article (l and 2) of Article 3,  clearly states that: "No State Party shall expel, return or extradite a person to another State where there are substantial grounds for believing that he would be in danger of being subjected to torture."
Yet you still perceive the poor sade nomads as your enemy
Stop stirring. Even sade kisses puntlands ass and beg for more seats, we´re not on the same league :arrow:
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:lol: :lol: a section of Wagardhac is not the whole Sade
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