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Re: Isaaq sub clans and Majeerteens.....
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:52 pm
by Dhaga Bacayl
2ndtoNone wrote:guys the reason why Ive asked this question is because i wanted to find out why the isaaq sub clans and majeerteens have ill feelings/dislike towards each other i mean they are very hostile to each other though they dont share any lands or resources except the name Somali. Why the loathing and enmity and rivalry between these groups?
If I'm not mistaken the Isaas sub clans are less of antagonits towards other darood sub clans and see them lesser adversaries than the majeerteen. And for the majeerteen see the isaaq sub clans as their biggest adversary. WHY?
You just asnwered your own question.
Re: Isaaq sub clans and Majeerteens.....
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:09 pm
by kaliil
2ndtoNone wrote:Isaaq sub clans and Majeerteens..... are there any regions/degaans/towns where the Majeerteen share or resides with any of the Isaaq sub clans??
Majeerteen(Biciidyahan) and Habar Yoonis share borders in Zone 5 areas, they Live together in Wardheer region.
Re: Isaaq sub clans and Majeerteens.....
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:16 pm
by Chinaman
Monk-of-Mogadishu wrote:The so-called Gaheyle trash in Sanaag are not MJs, so therefore we have no border at all with Isaaq.
Sanaagian siwaaqroons are 100% majerteen whether you like it or not. In fact I consider them to be more majerteen than some of you mj's from the jubooyinka.
Re: Isaaq sub clans and Majeerteens.....
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:53 pm
by Voltage
Executive wrote:No, MJ regions are Bari, Nugaal, Mudug, Areas in Jubboyinka and some parts of Ogaden.
Re: Isaaq sub clans and Majeerteens.....
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:59 pm
by HooBariiska
i thought habar younis and majeerteen live in wardheer together
Re: Isaaq sub clans and Majeerteens.....
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:17 pm
by Siciid85
Timocase & Kalil, they just border each other i am not aware of any town where habar yoonis and majerteen reside together in hawdka? Ogaden yes but not majerteen. that is why majerteens have very distance culture (Dhaqan) & different accent (lahjad) then Isaaqs compared to Ogaden, Dhulbahante,Warsangeli.
So to answer your question 2ndtoNone there is no town where Isaaqs & Majerteens reside together. Their Camel Herders only see each other in Miyiga (Wardheer Zone Grazing Areas) with very minimum intermarriages compared to the other neighbouring clans ( Gadsan, Ogaden etc).
Re: Isaaq sub clans and Majeerteens.....
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:31 pm
by Mr_Alfaas
Siciid85 wrote:Timocase & Kalil, they just border each other i am not aware of any town where habar yoonis and majerteen reside together in hawdka? Ogaden yes but not majerteen. that is why majerteen have very distance culture (Dhaqan) & different accent (lahjad) then Isaaqs compared to Ogaden, Dhulbahante,Warsangeli.
So to answer your question 2ndtoNone there is no town where Isaaqs & Majerteens reside together. Their Camel Herders only see each other in Miyiga (Wardheer Zone) with very minimum intermarriages compared to the other neighbouring clans ( Gadsan, Ogaden etc).
si wacan bad u sharaxday.
Re: Isaaq sub clans and Majeerteens.....
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:05 pm
by Chinaman
Siciid85 wrote:Timocase & Kalil, they just border each other i am not aware of any town where habar yoonis and majerteen reside together in hawdka? Ogaden yes but not majerteen. that is why majerteens have very distance culture (Dhaqan) & different accent (lahjad) then Isaaqs compared to Ogaden, Dhulbahante,Warsangeli.[/i]
Majerteen dhaqan is unique mashallah
That's one of the postive aspects of laandheernimo
Re: Isaaq sub clans and Majeerteens.....
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:08 pm
by Keyse_0208
Chinaman wrote:Majerteen dhaqan is unique
You're right, Majeerteen have the worst somali dhaqan, dhiloonyinka iyo tuugnimada iyo fataanimada waa wax lagu yaqaano. most somali Gaalo, and Famous Dhilloz are all Mj.. Waa iska Uskag Family .. dee sow sidaa maaha.?
Re: Isaaq sub clans and Majeerteens.....
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:12 pm
by Monk-of-Mogadishu
^ I think this bucur bucayr has a majerteen ceeb ringing constantly in his ear, every topic about mjs he makes a cameo appearance.
Re: Isaaq sub clans and Majeerteens.....
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:36 pm
by yunis09
Siciid85 wrote:Timocase & Kalil, they just border each other i am not aware of any town where habar yoonis and majerteen reside together in hawdka? Ogaden yes but not majerteen. that is why majerteens have very distance culture (Dhaqan) & different accent (lahjad) then Isaaqs compared to Ogaden, Dhulbahante,Warsangeli.
So to answer your question 2ndtoNone there is no town where Isaaqs & Majerteens reside together. Their Camel Herders only see each other in Miyiga (Wardheer Zone Grazing Areas) with very minimum intermarriages compared to the other neighbouring clans ( Gadsan, Ogaden etc).
Siciid you forgot to add cabdi xamuud in sanaag and damal muse in mudug if I'm not mistaken those two clans do share degans and intermarry with Certain mjs.
Re: Isaaq sub clans and Majeerteens.....
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:41 pm
by Murax
I don't think Majertens lose any sleep thinking about Issaqs. I don't know from the Issaq perspective.
Re: Isaaq sub clans and Majeerteens.....
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:43 pm
by Siciid85
yunis09. Most damals Muse's moved back to Somaliland especially Sool & Oodweyne. as for those who use to live under the protection of Abdi Xamuud i though you knew they fled during the wars? and most of their land was taken.
Re: Isaaq sub clans and Majeerteens.....
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:44 pm
by yunis09
Siciid85 wrote:yunis09. Most damals Muse's moved back to Somaliland especially Sool & Oodweyne. as for those who use to live under the protection of Abdi Xamuud i though you knew they fled during the wars? and most of their land was taken.
Point taken inadeer. It's matter of then and now.
Re: Isaaq sub clans and Majeerteens.....
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:46 pm
by yunis09
Murax wrote:I don't think Majertens lose any sleep thinking about Issaqs. I don't know from the Issaq perspective.
And you are?