Shelling and killing innocent civilian in their country is called "peacekeeping" anno 2010.Alluring wrote:What an absolutely malicious thread to dedicate to a group of "peacekeepers" whose main mode of deliverance to your people is to kill without mercy. "Peacekeepers" are known to molest, rape, and murder the civilian population in which they are assigned. The research is at your disposal if you think my statement is an exaggeration.
To equate that a group of people with guns are helpful is like equating a guy who has HIV knowingly infesting an innocent woman as being "abundantly fruitful".
I hate Mooryans anyone can attest to that. And in many cases the people of the south have done this to themselves, and surely this is the best that Karma has to offer. But there is a point where there must be a realization that the only people suffering are not those who are the benefactors of the prosperity, and this will have a deeper and more lasting impact on all Somalis.
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I don't trust anyone in a military uniform to come to another country, especially other Africans because they themselves are corrupt. Because (a) they'll have children with the population by coercion (b) they'll inflict pain on the people and control their every means (c) they'll escalate the problem
I want "peacekeepers "or any other foreign entity out of south Somalia, if this happens I want to see what south Somalia is capable of doing by themselves and without interference by other groups including other Somalis. If they are still fighting like they did prior to the "interventions" then I'll keep my mouth shut and will approve of 100,000 + "peacekeepers" and their "mission".
I want "peacekeepers "or any other foreign entity out of south Somalia, if this happens I want to see what south Somalia is capable of doing by themselves and without interference by other groups including other Somalis. If they are still fighting like they did prior to the "interventions" then I'll keep my mouth shut and will approve of 100,000 + "peacekeepers" and their "mission".
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The following will happen.Alluring wrote:I don't trust anyone in a military uniform to come to another country, especially other Africans because they themselves are corrupt. Because (a) they'll have children with the population by coercion (b) they'll inflict pain on the people and control their every means (c) they'll escalate the problem
I want "peacekeepers "or any other foreign entity out of south Somalia, if this happens I want to see what south Somalia is capable of doing by themselves and without interference by other groups including other Somalis. If they are still fighting like they did prior to the "interventions" then I'll keep my mouth shut and will approve of 100,000 + "peacekeepers" and their "mission".
1. Al-Shabaab will take over Mogadishu. Their sphere of influence will reach the central regions.
2. A stalemate ensues
3. Status quo remains
After that, there'll be peace in the capital with a crazy bunch of teenagers running the show. But in terms of development and progress, very little will be achieved.
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This is the guy that had his honorary degrees revoked.Garuun wrote:nomadicwarlord wrote:
Hopefully Jerry Rawlings can generate more attention to this silly conflict.
When do you think is Robert Mugabes turn for "peacekeeping" mission??

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Alluring wrote:I don't trust anyone in a military uniform to come to another country, especially other Africans because they themselves are corrupt. Because (a) they'll have children with the population by coercion (b) they'll inflict pain on the people and control their every means (c) they'll escalate the problem
I want "peacekeepers "or any other foreign entity out of south Somalia, if this happens I want to see what south Somalia is capable of doing by themselves and without interference by other groups including other Somalis. If they are still fighting like they did prior to the "interventions" then I'll keep my mouth shut and will approve of 100,000 + "peacekeepers" and their "mission".
you do know that once amisom or any other peacekeeping force leaves somalia, punaniland will fall quick?
for me is no problem, once they capture the whole country i will just wear shabaab cimaamad and play the game with them just like i did with maxaakiim but for you secularists its a painful doom.
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Al-Shabab can't even pass Galgaduud and you are talking about Puntland falling?HutuKing01 wrote:Alluring wrote:I don't trust anyone in a military uniform to come to another country, especially other Africans because they themselves are corrupt. Because (a) they'll have children with the population by coercion (b) they'll inflict pain on the people and control their every means (c) they'll escalate the problem
I want "peacekeepers "or any other foreign entity out of south Somalia, if this happens I want to see what south Somalia is capable of doing by themselves and without interference by other groups including other Somalis. If they are still fighting like they did prior to the "interventions" then I'll keep my mouth shut and will approve of 100,000 + "peacekeepers" and their "mission".
you do know that once amisom or any other peacekeeping force leaves somalia, punaniland will fall quick?
for me is no problem, once they capture the whole country i will just wear shabaab cimaamad and play the game with them just like i did with maxaakiim but for you secularists its a painful doom.
Give me a focking break. They are overrated. They will eventually split and fight each other after the AU leaves.
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He said if AMISOM leaves and Shabab captures Mogadishu. He is right, they will run everywhere everyone else.FAH1223 wrote:
Al-Shabab can't even pass Galgaduud and you are talking about Puntland falling?
Give me a focking break.

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ahlusunnah wal jamaacah are strong i dont deny that, but you must realize that most of shabaab force is concentrated in xamar. all of them are running towards xamar, from baardheere till ceelbuur.FAH1223 wrote:Al-Shabab can't even pass Galgaduud and you are talking about Puntland falling?HutuKing01 wrote:Alluring wrote:I don't trust anyone in a military uniform to come to another country, especially other Africans because they themselves are corrupt. Because (a) they'll have children with the population by coercion (b) they'll inflict pain on the people and control their every means (c) they'll escalate the problem
I want "peacekeepers "or any other foreign entity out of south Somalia, if this happens I want to see what south Somalia is capable of doing by themselves and without interference by other groups including other Somalis. If they are still fighting like they did prior to the "interventions" then I'll keep my mouth shut and will approve of 100,000 + "peacekeepers" and their "mission".
you do know that once amisom or any other peacekeeping force leaves somalia, punaniland will fall quick?
for me is no problem, once they capture the whole country i will just wear shabaab cimaamad and play the game with them just like i did with maxaakiim but for you secularists its a painful doom.
Give me a focking break. They are overrated. They will eventually split and fight each other after the AU leaves.
when that falls, galgaduud will only take 3 days.
punaniland 1 hour
somaliland 5 days
if tfg, puntland, somaliland and ahlusunnah had united for the sake of their survival they could make an end to this threat from the barbarian forces.
but they are not wise.
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DANGIRL wrote:
why would you do that to little childen,

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I still don't see that happening. They're power is really overrated ans as they move North they face stiffer opposition from more organized blocs in Somalia.Voltage wrote:He said if AMISOM leaves and Shabab captures Mogadishu. He is right, they will run everywhere everyone else.FAH1223 wrote:
Al-Shabab can't even pass Galgaduud and you are talking about Puntland falling?
Give me a focking break.
They also will probably split apart and fight each other once they take over Mogadishu. We've seen in it in the history of Mogadishu. The Maxakim was very diverse and would have probably fought each other after a while.
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I do not think that is necessary true. There are people in south Somalia who are undeniably against the tedious threat of Shabab, and those people are also not supporters of African Union troops, but those people are put on the sidelines are not being heard or spoken to. There needs to be attention brought to the population who are suffering because of the actions of these two groups.FAH1223 wrote:The following will happen.Alluring wrote:I don't trust anyone in a military uniform to come to another country, especially other Africans because they themselves are corrupt. Because (a) they'll have children with the population by coercion (b) they'll inflict pain on the people and control their every means (c) they'll escalate the problem
I want "peacekeepers "or any other foreign entity out of south Somalia, if this happens I want to see what south Somalia is capable of doing by themselves and without interference by other groups including other Somalis. If they are still fighting like they did prior to the "interventions" then I'll keep my mouth shut and will approve of 100,000 + "peacekeepers" and their "mission".
1. Al-Shabaab will take over Mogadishu. Their sphere of influence will reach the central regions.
2. A stalemate ensues
3. Status quo remains
After that, there'll be peace in the capital with a crazy bunch of teenagers running the show. But in terms of development and progress, very little will be achieved.
Shabab needs to be destroyed by other Somalis in their specific regions without the help of African Union troops. If they are destroyed by the civilian population there exists greater immunity for the people, and the Shabab banter and belief that this is a war against religion will be put to ignominy.
The people who live in those regions occupied by Shabab need to be trained, including women. But what I do believe this is the only way possible to move forward.
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The problem with Somalis is... most do not like Al-Shabaab. But Somalis are so divided and useless that they don't have a unified approach to combating them.
Of course, if Somalis were to unite against Shabab and defeat them... they would fight each other. As the cycle goes on and on.
Of course, if Somalis were to unite against Shabab and defeat them... they would fight each other. As the cycle goes on and on.
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But like other wars, based on qabiil - the enemy was clear cut. This one is not clear cut, because there are non-Somalis in Shabab.FAH1223 wrote:The problem with Somalis is... most do not like Al-Shabaab. But Somalis are so divided and useless that they don't have a unified approach to combating them.
Of course, if Somalis were to unite against Shabab and defeat them... they would fight each other. As the cycle goes on and on.
I think there is a point even for Somalis that fighting can not continue on forever, it will be time to put the guns down. Especially since things seem getting worse and worse.
Even if the people of the south wanted to fight Shabab (a) they do not have the resources (b) they probably do not have the might to fight for a long period of time. Shabab is the worst thing to happen to Somalia by far.
But if African Union troops do not leave this gives them more ammunition for the agenda.
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The ajnabi fighters in Shabaab is also overrated. 99% of the fighters are skinny black Somalis.Alluring wrote:But like other wars, based on qabiil - the enemy was clear cut. This one is not clear cut, because there are non-Somalis in Shabab.FAH1223 wrote:The problem with Somalis is... most do not like Al-Shabaab. But Somalis are so divided and useless that they don't have a unified approach to combating them.
Of course, if Somalis were to unite against Shabab and defeat them... they would fight each other. As the cycle goes on and on.
I think there is a point even for Somalis that fighting can not continue on forever, it will be time to put the guns down. Especially since things seem getting worse and worse.
Even if the people of the south wanted to fight Shabab (a) they do not have the resources (b) they probably do not have the might to fight for a long period of time. Shabab is the worst thing to happen to Somalia by far.
But if African Union troops do not leave this gives them more ammunition for the agenda.
Al-Shabab is the response to the warlord era and this is what we got.
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