Historic Picture of Major General Maxamed Ainanshe Guleed

[Siciid85]

So you think to establish order he had to execute those men? even Samatar says in his book it was wrong to execute those men jail would have been enough for them just like Abdulahi yusuf & Aided.

Maxammad siyad bare feared caynaashe and the other generals they would overthrow him, thats why execution was the only option

So for example if Sheikh Shariff fears a political opponent in southern somalia do you think he will order his execution? even al shabab don't do that in their ranks it's like Godane ordering the executions of Al Afghani, Abu Mansuur just because he fears they will take his title. Its clear Siad bare was a backward dictator that started the cycle of hate & violence that still this day continues in somalia.

[Voltage]

Salaad Gabayre la gartay ee. Why did he ordered the execution of a innocent man Abdulqadir Dheel who left the army and worked in a pharmacy other then having a physical fight when they were both in the army? don't tell me he was also part of plotting the coup because there is no evidence of it. Its clear siad bare ordered the execution of any General & Colonel who he suspected was a threat to him even without a evidence showing if they were plotting a coup or not.

They didn't have a "physical fight". Falling out means they disagreed, argued, etc and this was even before the coup. I am not privy to him but I would say he was part of Gabayre and Caynaanshe's coup then. I am sure an Isaaq and Hawiye knew they needed a Darood and naturally this guy fits the bill.

[Siciid85]

They did have Physical confrontations when they were both in the civilian government wereby Dheel even grabbed his neck.

Dheel had already left the army because he had falling with Siad Barre before the 1969 coup. Dheel was a man of sanguine temper and he had, according to my sources, physical confrontations with Barre during the civilian government. There was even an incident in which Dheel grabbed General Siad Barre by the neck in an official meeting and the two were separated. Dheel had ridiculed and insulted his superior, General Barre, for being “provincial” and “pedestrian”. In that same interesting VOA program, Osman Jeelle (Hawadle) and also former SRC member opined that the coup plot, perhaps, was blown out of proportion and the killing of these officers was unnecessary and “avoidable”. “Prison could have done the job better”, Said Osman.

[Voltage]

So you think to establish order he had to execute those men? even Samatar says in his book it was wrong to execute those men jail would have been enough for them just like Abdulahi yusuf & Aided.

Maxammad siyad bare feared caynaashe and the other generals they would overthrow him, thats why execution was the only option

So for example if Sheikh Shariff fears a political opponent in southern somalia do you think he will order his execution? even al shabab don't do that in their ranks it's like Godane ordering the executions of Al Afghani, Abu Mansuur just because he fears they will take his title. Its clear Siad bare was a backward dictator that started the cycle of hate & violence that still this day continues in somalia.

What an illiterate. It was a coup and these men were military men. Omar Abdirashid fearing Sheikh can give him vote of no confidence in parliament is not the same as military men in a coup turning other officers against you and potentially losing your life or throwing the state into instability. It is like apples and oranges.

[Voltage]

They did have Physical confrontations when they were both in the civilian government. quit making excuses for Siad barre.

Dheel had already left the army because he had falling with Siad Barre before the 1969 coup. Dheel was a man of sanguine temper and he had, according to my sources, physical confrontations with Barre during the civilian government. There was even an incident in which Dheel grabbed General Siad Barre by the neck in an official meeting and the two were separated. Dheel had ridiculed and insulted his superior, General Barre, for being “provincial” and “pedestrian”. In that same interesting VOA program, Osman Jeelle (Hawadle) and also former SRC member opined that the coup plot, perhaps, was blown out of proportion and the killing of these officers was unnecessary and “avoidable”. “Prison could have done the job better”, Said Osman.

No wonder he was liquidated. Qaan Mareexaan waa qaaxo kugu maqan

[Siciid85]

Siad bare was a cuqdadlow ileen ana waxbana ilowbiin. ordering the execution of colonels which he merely had a phyiscal confrontations with in the past talk about personal grudges.

[Voltage]

ileen ana waxbana ilowbiin. [/i]

Do you understand what qaan mareexaan waa qaaxo kugu maqan means? Few maahmaah have stuck to tribes as qaan mareexaan waa qaaxo kugu maqan and for good reason. Barre Hiiraale laba sano buu kaneecada Dollow maanta fadhiya, cilkii Kismaayo ma iloobin

[Siciid85]

Emperior, CumarLabasuul. However the good thing is those men died a quick painless death compared to Siad bare who died in nigeria & Abdalle Fadil the one who testified against them died in a painful death in the hands of USC. Wouldn't you guys agree justice was served? even though there is one more left Ina samatar who also worked against Salaad Gabeyere his close friend behind his back who lives in Virginia and is currently being sued by another somalilander for the torture and mental breakdown his soldiers caused to him.

"It was no secret that Fadil testified against Salad Gabayre in the kangaroo court the regime set up to convict the alleged coup organizers. When Barre’s regime fell in 1991, Abdalla Fadil was mercilessly butchered by Aidid militia in retaliation, among other things but not exclusively, for his early double-crossing of Salad Gabayre. The inclusion of General Ainanshe and Colonel Dheel were perhaps a pure political ploy by Siad Bare to get rid of his opponents once and for all."

[Cumar-Labasuul]

Voltage, do you think that Caynaanshe and Dheel were involved in the counter coup?

During the court proceedings, Salad Gabayre questioned why Ainanshe and Dheel were being lumped together with him because the two had nothing to do with his failed attempt to topple the Barre regime. Moreover, Gabayre and Dheel were rivals and that Dheel had indeed threatened the former to kill him due to personnel disputes in the army during the civilian government. It was Gabayre, with the blessing and the full knowledge of Siad Barre who dismissed Dheel from the armed forces in late 1969.

[Voltage]

Voltage, do you think that Caynaanshe and Dheel were involved in the counter coup?

During the court proceedings, Salad Gabayre questioned why Ainanshe and Dheel were being lumped together with him because the two had nothing to do with his failed attempt to topple the Barre regime. Moreover, Gabayre and Dheel were rivals and that Dheel had indeed threatened the former to kill him due to personnel disputes in the army during the civilian government. It was Gabayre, with the blessing and the full knowledge of Siad Barre who dismissed Dheel from the armed forces in late 1969.

So Gabayre basically admitted to the coup, why do people say he was innocent?

Also, I take it the cause was great to him and he was trying to save those two to continue it.

[CoolPoisons]

biggest openenents kulaha

they were executed and no one even remembers them. the only reason this langaab mentions them's cause theyre from his clan. Jale Siad was a genius.

Salad Gabayre wuxu qabi jiray Dalays the singer

[Siciid85]

^^Here comes the illiterate. If they weren't his biggest opponents why did he ordered their execution? its clear they were a threat to your idol and he knew sooner or later they would have kicked his butt out of the chair. You dont execute random people out of the blue unless your telling us Siad bare ordered their execution randomly in the bubble world of Coolp .

"It was no secret that Fadil testified against Salad Gabayre in the kangaroo court the regime set up to convict the alleged coup organizers. When Barre’s regime fell in 1991, Abdalla Fadil was mercilessly butchered by Aidid militia in retaliation, among other things but not exclusively, for his early double-crossing of Salad Gabayre. The inclusion of General Ainanshe and Colonel Dheel were perhaps a pure political ploy by Siad Bare to get rid of his opponents once and for all."

[Siciid85]

Its interesting to also note that Salad Gabayere was the son in law of first somalia president Adan Abdalle who was later jailed by siad bare in the 1990s in the manifesto and other men who told him enough was enough it was time he stepped down which he refused and arrested those men. If your idol was such a "genius" as you claim coolpoison he should have known when his time was up instead of waiting for rebels to take over the city and send him to Nigeria. that is what greediness does to people.

[Voltage]

Its interesting to also note that Salad Gabayere was the son in law of first somalia president Adan Abdalle who was later jailed by siad bare in the 1990s in the manifesto and other men who told him enough was enough it was time he stepped down which he refused and arrested those men. If your idol was such a "genius" as you claim coolpoison he should have known when his time was up instead of waiting for rebels to take over the city and send him to Nigeria. that is what greediness does to people.

Gen Salaad Gabeyre was married to Dalays, who is not only Marehan, reer Diini, reer Kooshin, but reer Xassan Kooshin like Siad practically his cousin.

She famously sang the song

Honeyoow inkastoo wadankaadu warsheikh yahay
Honeyoow inkastoo qabiilkaadu hawiye yahay
honeyoow inkastoo warkaadu wabay yahay
qalbigaa ku doortay

[CoolPoisons]

^^Here comes the illiterate. If they weren't his biggest opponents why did he ordered their execution? its clear they were a threat to your idol and he knew sooner or later they would have kicked his butt out of the chair. You dont execute random people out of the blue unless your telling us Siad bare ordered their execution randomly in the bubble world of Coolp .

"It was no secret that Fadil testified against Salad Gabayre in the kangaroo court the regime set up to convict the alleged coup organizers. When Barre’s regime fell in 1991, Abdalla Fadil was mercilessly butchered by Aidid militia in retaliation, among other things but not exclusively, for his early double-crossing of Salad Gabayre. The inclusion of General Ainanshe and Colonel Dheel were perhaps a pure political ploy by Siad Bare to get rid of his opponents once and for all."

^^ dumb IIdor,

he executed anyone who broke the law. It has nothing to do with who U are. sheeko written by some Hutu or IIDor's not gonna change anything

they were unknown askar who were executed for breaking the law