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Re: Question for the Suufis
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:01 am
by udun
Cumar-Labasuul wrote:udun wrote:Cumar Labasuul,
Either contribute to the topic or stay out of it meesha nacnac hala soo gelin e. Waxa laga hadlayo makuu dheceen?

Iga daba dhe: Ilaah hana soo wada hadeeyo

Aamiin.
Alle tubta toosan ha inagu sugo. Aamiin.
Re: Question for the Suufis
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:04 am
by Cumar-Labasuul
udun wrote:Cumar-Labasuul wrote:udun wrote:Cumar Labasuul,
Either contribute to the topic or stay out of it meesha nacnac hala soo gelin e. Waxa laga hadlayo makuu dheceen?

Iga daba dhe: Ilaah hana soo wada hadeeyo

Aamiin.
Alle tubta toosan ha inagu sugo. Aamiin.
amiin
Re: Question for the Suufis
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:53 am
by Executive
ciyaal_warta wrote:one time me and ma friends saw a lady praying 2 a sheikh grave she was pregnant and asking him for a boy subhanallah and she was making all these promises ..it was near a place we used 2 play football back in wardhiigley i told her" eedo ilaahey ayaa la baryaa sheekhan asiga tiisa ilaahey la hor taagan ee isaga tag" she insulted me like ikhwanyahow gardheere .then me and ma friend told her remember in akhira we will be the witness in front of allah sw ..if u say nobody ever told me ..we left her while she was insulting us subhanallah

Subxanallah, I never knew a great portion of Somalis back home were suufi and some practising all kinds of shirk. There are loads of videos on youtube with somalis praying to different sheikhs subxanallah.
Re: Question for the Suufis
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:37 pm
by Shirib
HutuKing01 wrote:Well iam 1/3 suufi it means i only like dhikr and nabi amaan.
2/3 shia, i admire the love for ahlulbayt and the desire to get martyrdom.
And the rest salafi, for the monotheistic part. You see i only ask from Allah, no dead human weither he is prophet or not. I also agree with them " istawa ala arsh" issue and on if we should interpret ayats like ' Allah's hands/eyes' literally or not. You see i do believe Allah swt has Hands/Eyes but i do not ask "how". I say as 1/3 salafi: we acknowledge what Allah swt says about himself without likening him to the creation or asking "how".
Also i do not believe Allah swt is everywhere, but his Glorious knowledge reaches everywhere.and he sees while we do not see.
Hears us etc etc.
khatar aa tahay, u have 4/3rds
Re: Question for the Suufis
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:40 pm
by The_Emperior5
Praying to Sheikh abdulqadir jilani is wrong, cause we should only pray to allah. praising Sheikh abdulqadir jilani is not wrong.
but Sheikh abdulqadir jilani was a great Sheikh may allah bless his soul. karamalhu wadju
hutuking , if you love the ahlu bait you should also love abdulqadir jilani he was ahlu bait He was a descended of imam Hasssan rathilahu canhu on his father side and descended of imam hussein rathilahu canhu on his mother side
Re: Question for the Suufis
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:56 pm
by ciyaal_warta
udun wrote:Bro Ciyaal Warta, that is the Jaahiliya that some Suufis wants us to remain. Subxaanallaah, she told you and your friend like "like ikhwanyahow gardheere" while inisting her shirk
My questions in the topic is to get one Suufi to either give reasons why they said those things or see if they can denounce and state that it is longer practiced.
yh man bk in xamar whn we are kids we used study Fatxul Majiid on thursday in our dugsi..the suufis used 2 call us waxay akhriyaan foolxumo jiid

..i support alshabab for bring down those shrines man..i know this mosque in boondheere which i couldnt pray in it coz there was a big shrine in da middle of da masjid subhanallah..i hope they destroy it man
Re: Question for the Suufis
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:33 pm
by udun
Yes bro Ciyaal Warta. They will destroy it inshallah.

Re: Question for the Suufis
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:18 pm
by DR-YALAXOOW
this is known wahaaabi proboganda and been abuurka against true teachers of islam suufiya ahlu sunna waljamaaca xafidahu allah. irony is WAHAABIS sing one of latest wahaabi nashiidi or songs is called
LA BEEYKA YAA USAMAA LE BEEYKA YAA USAMA
walaahi in this shirk wahaabi bidcadooda heer ay carab sheeydaan caabudaan ayey gaareen, KALMADA( LA BEEYKA) waa kalmad islaamka isticmaalaan maalinta ARAFADA XAJKA si ay u weyneeyaan ALLAH SUBXAANA WATACAALA
marka heer ay SHIRKI ka gaareen WAHAABIYADA salafiyada ayey nin xunoo carab ah ugu yeereen LA BEEYKA(YAA USAMA)
MARKAASEEY afkooda uraya wahaabiyada la soo taagan yihiin beentooda ayey culumada alle sida SH CABDIQAADIR JEEYLAANI RAXMATU ALLAH CALAYHI ku been abuuranayaan ee ay oranayaaan BEEN ABUUR wax ay qorteen iyaga ayaa ahlu sunnah ugu yeeraan sh cabdiqaadir.
wahaabiyada

Re: Question for the Suufis
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:29 am
by ciyaal_warta
DR-YALAXOOW wrote:this is known wahaaabi proboganda and been abuurka against true teachers of islam suufiya ahlu sunna waljamaaca xafidahu allah. irony is WAHAABIS sing one of latest wahaabi nashiidi or songs is called
LA BEEYKA YAA USAMAA LE BEEYKA YAA USAMA
walaahi in this shirk wahaabi bidcadooda heer ay carab sheeydaan caabudaan ayey gaareen, KALMADA( LA BEEYKA) waa kalmad islaamka isticmaalaan maalinta ARAFADA XAJKA si ay u weyneeyaan ALLAH SUBXAANA WATACAALA
marka heer ay SHIRKI ka gaareen WAHAABIYADA salafiyada ayey nin xunoo carab ah ugu yeereen LA BEEYKA(YAA USAMA)
MARKAASEEY afkooda uraya wahaabiyada la soo taagan yihiin beentooda ayey culumada alle sida SH CABDIQAADIR JEEYLAANI RAXMATU ALLAH CALAYHI ku been abuuranayaan ee ay oranayaaan BEEN ABUUR wax ay qorteen iyaga ayaa ahlu sunnah ugu yeeraan sh cabdiqaadir.
wahaabiyada

Labeyka ladfi ahaan wa kalmad caribi ah waxaana loo isticmaalay markoo qof ku yeero oo ajiibtid sxb..aniga osama iyo alshabab ma jecli laakin dont try 2 twist the words just to use it for ur own benefit

Re: Question for the Suufis
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:34 am
by DR-YALAXOOW
ciyaal_warta wrote:
Labeyka ladfi ahaan wa kalmad caribi ah waxaana loo isticmaalay markoo qof ku yeero oo ajiibtid sxb..aniga osama iyo alshabab ma jecli laakin dont try 2 twist the words just to use it for ur own benefit

you can not call a humanbiegs words that is associated only the creator
Allah like CALLING some one LABEEYKA yaaa usama, becouse of that word is only for allah, muslims call in ARAFA DAY allah using this word(
LA BEEYKA) then if you use that word LABEEYKA SOMEONE ELSE than allah then thats SHIRK SHIRK´, ITS WORSHIPING.
LABEEYKA means
ADIGAA KUU KELI YEELNAY( ADIGAAN KUU AHAANEY) la beeyka yaa usamaaa( MEANS YOUR WORSHIPING A HUMAN SICK MAN CALLED USAMA and thats BIG SHIRK.
suufiyah NEVER CALL sheikhs like(la beeyka yaa sheekh abduqaadir) they only say sheikh WAY AMAANAAN and make for them ducaaaa. AGAIN la beeyka its worshiping if you cal some one( adigaa kuu kali yeelnay usaaamooow) becouse PAGAN ARABS use to call their asnaaam LA BEEYKA YAAA UZAAA, LA BEEYKA YAA LAATAA, laataa and uzaaa was idols which PAGAN ARABS use to worship. same think WAHAABIS worship human when they call
LA BEEYKA YAA USAAMA LA BEEYKA YAA USAMAA= ADIGAA KUU AHAANEY USAAMOOW, ADIGAAN KAAA AMAR QAADANAA USAAAMOW, ADIGAAAN KAA DANBEEYNAA USAAAMOOW, thats worshiping you alqaida sick wahaabi kid

Re: Question for the Suufis
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:14 am
by hamada12
aqyaarta wax haysku qasina meesha laba kooxood oo football ma aha dadka dhan ha isku qabanina hadaad aragto islaan qabri wax ka baryeeyso ama oday inuu darooga cunay leh suufi ayaan ahay cilmi yari ayaa u geysay suufida cilmiga leh warso sh cabdulla cariif weydii xaaraam waaye in illah wax lala wadaajiyo ayuu ku sheegaa ninka alshabaab ayaan taageersanahay ku haayo waxaan kuu sheega qofka cilmi yari qalad rabi ka galo(XAQULLAHI) alaah wuu udanbi dhaafaa fiiri quranka ch 2 v286 lakin dadka la laaynayo (xaqul cibaadi ) qofka un baa cafin karo markaas ayaad suufi wax ka sheegee
Re: Question for the Suufis
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:35 am
by ciyaal_warta
DR-YALAXOOW wrote:ciyaal_warta wrote:
Labeyka ladfi ahaan wa kalmad caribi ah waxaana loo isticmaalay markoo qof ku yeero oo ajiibtid sxb..aniga osama iyo alshabab ma jecli laakin dont try 2 twist the words just to use it for ur own benefit

you can not call a humanbiegs words that is associated only the creator
Allah like CALLING some one LABEEYKA yaaa usama, becouse of that word is only for allah, muslims call in ARAFA DAY allah using this word(
LA BEEYKA) then if you use that word LABEEYKA SOMEONE ELSE than allah then thats SHIRK SHIRK´, ITS WORSHIPING.
LABEEYKA means
ADIGAA KUU KELI YEELNAY( ADIGAAN KUU AHAANEY) la beeyka yaa usamaaa( MEANS YOUR WORSHIPING A HUMAN SICK MAN CALLED USAMA and thats BIG SHIRK.
suufiyah NEVER CALL sheikhs like(la beeyka yaa sheekh abduqaadir) they only say sheikh WAY AMAANAAN and make for them ducaaaa. AGAIN la beeyka its worshiping if you cal some one( adigaa kuu kali yeelnay usaaamooow) becouse PAGAN ARABS use to call their asnaaam LA BEEYKA YAAA UZAAA, LA BEEYKA YAA LAATAA, laataa and uzaaa was idols which PAGAN ARABS use to worship. same think WAHAABIS worship human when they call
LA BEEYKA YAA USAAMA LA BEEYKA YAA USAMAA= ADIGAA KUU AHAANEY USAAMOOW, ADIGAAN KAAA AMAR QAADANAA USAAAMOW, ADIGAAAN KAA DANBEEYNAA USAAAMOOW, thats worshiping you alqaida sick wahaabi kid

brother aniga am not talking bout on diin terms...am refering to linguistic term which is okey 2 use :: Example labeeyka ya yalaxow ..sxb malaha carabiga kugu yar..labeyka islaamka ka hor ayaa la isticmaalayay...macnaheeda waxa waaye "wa ku ajiibay" ama wan ka yeelay..marka diinta iyo luqad kala saar sxb..alshabab naceebkeeda yoo ku indho tirin
Re: Question for the Suufis
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:49 am
by hamada12
labeyka ku ajiibay ineey noqoto micnahaas waan aqaan bro dalanyarada al shabaab waa aqyaarta naqiinay ficilka ayaan ka hadlayaa iyo waxa dhacay labeyka yaa usaama maxaad ula jeeda usaamow ku ajiibnay ok lakin maxaad ku ajiibeysaa maiska fiirisay mise wax kasto uu usaama sheego waa sax ,
Re: Question for the Suufis
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:22 am
by Ureysoo
War Waxaas Wax Ka Daran Beey Sameeyan, Insha Allah, I will share some of it with you lot soon ....
Re: Question for the Suufis
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:32 am
by hamada12
thanks bro dadka qaar arimaha sideey ukala weyn yihiin ama ukala halisan yihiin ayaa isaga qaldan