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Coeus wrote:The egyptians are especially mad because the funding for the building of the dam is sponsored by china and Israel. Soon the arabs will see that Ethiopia truly wields power in the horn. This can be catashtrophic for Somalia if we get divided, we will be nothing but mere ethiopian pawns.

bro,i agree with you,this whole dam project was Isreal's brain child,and they afforded the ethiopians with everything to make it happen from the technical expertise,to the political connections to secure the loan.while there is no doubt that the materialization of this project will bring egypt's economy on its knees,arabs are divided over this issue,even though they publicly don't admit it,into two blocks:
1) some arab states, like Saudi Arabia, want the project to materialize under the illusion that a weaker,aid dependent Egypt will afford them to be the next arab power house(typical Arab ency,and short sight)
2)While Egypt and its allies,on the other hand, see this issue for what it is "an israeli incursion of Egypt's food and national security".
and the sooner they realize Ethiopia has been/is pro Israel.they will realize that only a strong Somalia can keep/kept the ethiopians at bay for decades. and this my friend will give Arabs great incentive to have a bigger constructive involvement in the Somali affairs,and increase their aid to us to something close to that of the Palestinian authority.
this might be far fetched scenario,Allahu aclam,but these are my predictions ...

union wrote:Egypt is a better strategic ally and will thus receive American support. The starving residents of Abyssinia may be able to dominate braindead Somalis, but the not the Egyptians.

And LOL at the suggestion that Somalia will be able to take the place of Sudan and Egypt. That's rich.

The funny thing is that Israel also gets a share of the nile water, from egypt. Israell would also lose its share if ethiopia continued with their new contract. This is what is confusing the arabs


Can a man not dream?

Coeus wrote:

union wrote:Egypt is a better strategic ally and will thus receive American support. The starving residents of Abyssinia may be able to dominate braindead Somalis, but the not the Egyptians.

And LOL at the suggestion that Somalia will be able to take the place of Sudan and Egypt. That's rich.

The funny thing is that Israel also gets a share of the nile water, from egypt. Israell would also lose its share if ethiopia continued with their new contract. This is what is confusing the arabs


Can a man not dream?

the israelis would rather see a dead enemy than derive petty benefits from it.

the reason why ethiopia always got preferential treatment from the west was to be a buffer against egypt, somalia was out of the qeustion always and it came as a surprise that somalia could actualy pose a seriuos thret to ethiopia. since somalia is out of the picture its time egpt felt the heat.

Booto iyo nus from the idiot with the bidaar...laakin, the source of the Nile is not in Egypt as far as I know so why should Egypt have control over it or make demands on anyone? To be fair Ethiopia has more of a right to the Nile than Egypt.

samadoon-waaxid wrote:

Coeus wrote:The egyptians are especially mad because the funding for the building of the dam is sponsored by china and Israel. Soon the arabs will see that Ethiopia truly wields power in the horn. This can be catashtrophic for Somalia if we get divided, we will be nothing but mere ethiopian pawns.

bro,i agree with you,this whole dam project was Isreal's brain child,and they afforded the ethiopians with everything to make it happen from the technical expertise,to the political connections to secure the loan.while there is no doubt that the materialization of this project will bring egypt's economy on its knees,arabs are divided over this issue,even though they publicly don't admit it,into two blocks:
1) some arab states, like Saudi Arabia, want the project to materialize under the illusion that a weaker,aid dependent Egypt will afford them to be the next arab power house(typical Arab ency,and short sight)
2)While Egypt and its allies,on the other hand, see this issue for what it is "an israeli incursion of Egypt's food and national security".
and the sooner they realize Ethiopia has been/is pro Israel.they will realize that only a strong Somalia can keep/kept the ethiopians at bay for decades. and this my friend will give Arabs great incentive to have a bigger constructive involvement in the Somali affairs,and increase their aid to us to something close to that of the Palestinian authority.
this might be far fetched scenario,Allahu aclam,but these are my predictions ...

I agree with you also walaal. I think every coutnry is waiting for the war in Somalia to end. Because the world has moved on but Somalia hasnt. Nobody would care if we were a little insignificant country, but we are a big country in a strategic location that is important for the world. If Somalia would be stable and if we had a productive goverment that is aming to make Somalia a great country then we would dominate the horn.

wait,Isreal gets a share of the nile? didnt Egypt liberate half of the sinai desert west of the nile.how is Isreal still getting a share

If Wishes were horses beggers would ride on them not to break your delicate heart just keep on wishing for a revival of Somalia, dude Somalia is dead just like a sinking ship people are asking themselves when will the ship sink while the people inside the ship even though they are in the middle of the sea and not close to an Island are day dreaming about a mirage

The_Patriot wrote:If Wishes were horses beggers would ride on them not to break your delicate heart just keep on wishing for a revival of Somalia, dude Somalia is dead just like a sinking ship people are asking themselves when will the ship sink while the people inside the ship even though they are in the middle of the sea and not close to an Island are day dreaming about a mirage

have some faith in God sxb,clearly things cant get worse than it is now

samadoon-waaxid wrote:wait,Isreal gets a share of the nile? didnt Egypt liberate half of the sinai desert west of the nile.how is Isreal still getting a share

Yes they do, the goverment of Israel grants them a small part.

samadoon-waaxid wrote:

The_Patriot wrote:If Wishes were horses beggers would ride on them not to break your delicate heart just keep on wishing for a revival of Somalia, dude Somalia is dead just like a sinking ship people are asking themselves when will the ship sink while the people inside the ship even though they are in the middle of the sea and not close to an Island are day dreaming about a mirage

have some faith in God sxb,clearly things cant get worse than it is now

Somalia is not God.

I do have faith In Allah but not Somalia

The_Patriot wrote:

samadoon-waaxid wrote:

The_Patriot wrote:If Wishes were horses beggers would ride on them not to break your delicate heart just keep on wishing for a revival of Somalia, dude Somalia is dead just like a sinking ship people are asking themselves when will the ship sink while the people inside the ship even though they are in the middle of the sea and not close to an Island are day dreaming about a mirage

have some faith in God sxb,clearly things cant get worse than it is now

Somalia is not God.

I do have faith In Allah but not Somalia

Well your user name says it all.

The_Patriot wrote:

samadoon-waaxid wrote:

The_Patriot wrote:If Wishes were horses beggers would ride on them not to break your delicate heart just keep on wishing for a revival of Somalia, dude Somalia is dead just like a sinking ship people are asking themselves when will the ship sink while the people inside the ship even though they are in the middle of the sea and not close to an Island are day dreaming about a mirage

have some faith in God sxb,clearly things cant get worse than it is now

Somalia is not God.

I do have faith In Allah but not Somalia

waxaan filayaa soomalia kuma aadan dhalan? those of us who were born there are still hung on the bygone good ol' yesteryears,we think there is a light at the end of the tunnel while u might not even realize we are in a tunnel.laakin kolba waa sidee kula noqoto

cooes:can u show a map or something that details such an arrangement.

One important aspect we need to see this from is that Israel is pushign the whole thing. They are currently paying alot of money to make saltwater to drink water. If they push Egypt from the lion share, they can make deals with Ethiopia. A funny little thing is that in the Torah it is written that Jerusalem is entitled to the nile water and will get acces to it through all times Heres some articles that discuss Israels involvment:

http://pct-eu.org/en/news.php?action=view&id=21
http://www.alarabiya.net/views/2010/11/25/127407.html

Dude Somalia was destroyed by the same people who day dream about when the country will recover from its trauma. This is what I call hypocracy Somalia had its time and it screwed its chance.

Never have I seen people less patriotic than Somalis, if somalis do not sell you then you are lucky thats how low we have become

waxaan filayaa soomalia kuma aadan dhalan? those of us who were born there are still hung on the bygone good ol' yesteryears,we think there is a light at the end of the tunnel while u might not even realize we are in a tunnel.laakin kolba waa sidee kula noqoto

cooes:can u show a map or something that details such an arrangement.[/quote]





I just checked a source, its says infact they were NOT allowed any share of the nile water by the Egyptian goverment. Im so sorry for misleading anybody. The source is in the second link i posted in the previous message. Walaal sorry for misinformation.