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The_Patriot wrote:

abdalla11 wrote:LOL Would you say that since ina illey the OG's are in better condition? Wax muu ka badalay ileen awal iyaga baa la weerarijiray

others like c/majid and other ogaden presindents were either stupid and tribalsit.

for him he has made the somalis in the Ogaden feel the same pain we feel.

When the OLF was carrying out its operations the meles government would sponsor gangs like shekhal, gatsan and Idoor militias who would inflict problems on them bearing in mind the tplf govt was also inflicting pain on the ogaden massess on the pretext for supporting ONLF.

The ONLF would not retaliate on behalf of the ogaden civilians being ambushed by these militias and thus the locals created vigilantees.

This time however C/ Iley He karbashes anyone especialy folks that would try to belittle him for being a powerless Ogadeni.

There was a case where a shekhal military official in jigjiga was slapped and sent to jail.

Because this dude was abusing his power and it to oppress the ogaden members rather than apprehending ONLF.

So C/ iley beat the shit out of him and jailed him telling him that anigu ONLF banu ku dhirney inaadh qabqabatidh ee Ogaden kumanan dhirin.

He also went to wardheer and called the MJ elders and told them hadha waxa idhin diman inu Faroole idhin khutbeyo.

So somalis of non Ogaden are getting it rough if they try to even think he is weak cos of hi ogaden connections.

This has been good news as even some Idoor have joined ONLF and other somalis

So he helps the OG from other tribes that use to attack them? As long he's doing something for his clan waa rageedi, i heard alot of funny things about him

correction he doesnt help Ogaden but he is feared more by than any other leader

He took the attention from Ogadeen away. Ogadeen use to fight Meles and other somali clans somahan, that two fronts and now they only fight Meles, other clan dont mess with them

abdalla11 wrote:He took the attention from Ogadeen away. Ogadeen use to fight Meles and other somali clans somahan, that two fronts and now they only fight Meles, other clan dont mess with them

ONLF fights etiopian govt, local ogadeenis fight janjaweeds and c/iley fights to earn his repect from both kilil authorities and all somalis inluding ogadens.

previuosly kilil officials targeted ogaden only but iley has expandedit to affect the rest

these dats sl n pl leaders respect him

The_Patriot wrote:

abdalla11 wrote:He took the attention from Ogadeen away. Ogadeen use to fight Meles and other somali clans somahan, that two fronts and now they only fight Meles, other clan dont mess with them

ONLF fights etiopian govt, local ogadeenis fight janjaweeds and c/iley fights to earn his repect from both kilil authorities and all somalis inluding ogadens.

previuosly kilil officials targeted ogaden only but iley has expandedit to affect the rest

these dats sl n pl leaders respect him

Dee that's what i mean dhibkii buu xooga yar ka badalay
The guy has potential, hopefully he uses that smartly

Puntland buu liyuu police geeyay, wax waalan

November 30th 2010 · 1939511 Commentshttp%3A%2F%2Fsomalilandpress.com%2Fvideo-kenyan-mp-supports-somaliland-19395VIDEO%3A+Kenyan+MP+supports+Somaliland2010-11-30+07%3A38%3A00Qalinle+Husseinhttp%3A%2F%2Fsomalilandpress.com%2F%3Fp%3D19395

Mr. Elias Bare Shill, Kenyan Member of Parliament told local television station that he supports Somaliland’s quest for international recognition.

Mr. Shill congratulated the people of Somaliland for their recent successful elections and the tremendous progress the country has made.

He added he plans to visit Somaliland once the new Kenyan airliner starts operating between Hargeisa and Nairobi.

“The dream of greater Somalia is no longer valid. Djibouti is gone. We, the Somalis of NFD no longer wish to be part of Somalia, we are Kenyans. The Somalis of Ethiopia are also taking part in that country. Somaliland is not the problem, the problem is the South. Who is killing all the Somalis? Do we call someone that openly slaughters Somalis are true patriot, a one that loves Somalis? No, greater Somalia is dead,” he said.

Mr. Elias Bare Shill is a Kenyan Member of Parliament and a businessman. He also holds a bachelor of Education Degree from Nairobi University and is a teacher by profession.

Masha'allah, people are slowly opening up

Can't wait for the day when koonfur abandons the grand delusion of somaliweyn and there is progress in all the 5 regions.

Somaliweyn is going to happen some day without any war or effort it is the natural end state when all the 5 regions have their priorities in check. They will eventually come together for their greater good for trade, security, education, cultural and technical exchanges.

Regional independence at this stage is the only viable solution to minimise conflict expansion and a total horn of africa catastrophe. Infact one could easily argue that those who wish to formulate the total collapse and extinction of the somalis will have a single agenda to unite in haste all the regions settled by somalis.

Kenyan's somali politicians understand they are better off without Somaliweyn. They are witness to the forced eviction of koonfurians back to koonfur from their NFD region and they do not speakout in protest.

Ethiopia's somali politicians understand they are better of without somaliweyn. They are witness to the humiliating treatment received by the ONLF in their region and plans are underway to crush the ONLY lonely group still battling the regime.

DJbooti left a long time ago and is not even considering even taking a mere look behind into it's past... no regret... no somaliweyn.

In conclusion Somaliweyn needs rebranding and a makeover: To represent joint efforts between 5 independent states for the benefit and uplifting of the lifes of all somalis be it via joint security consideration, trade, education, cultural events...

Denial of that which is best for the somalis in general or sepcific to one region is a crime againt somaliweyn. I do hope rather then sitting idle the Landers can spear head the reshaping of somaliweyn for the benefit of all somalis concerned in the short term and also in the long term.

We are greater politically divided and united in spirit!!!

New Somaliweyn it can work.

Cirwaaq wrote: Can't wait for the day when koonfur abandons the grand delusion of somaliweyn and there is progress in all the 5 regions.

Somaliweyn is going to happen some day without any war or effort it is the natural end state when all the 5 regions have their priorities in check. They will eventually come together for their greater good for trade, security, education, cultural and technical exchanges.

Regional independence at this stage is the only viable solution to minimise conflict expansion and a total horn of africa catastrophe. Infact one could easily argue that those who wish to formulate the total collapse and extinction of the somalis will have a single agenda to unite in haste all the regions settled by somalis.

Kenyan's somali politicians understand they are better off without Somaliweyn. They are witness to the forced eviction of koonfurians back to koonfur from their NFD region and they do not speakout in protest.

Ethiopia's somali politicians understand they are better of without somaliweyn. They are witness to the humiliating treatment received by the ONLF in their region and plans are underway to crush the ONLY lonely group still battling the regime.

DJbooti left a long time ago and is not even considering even taking a mere look behind into it's past... no regret... no somaliweyn.

In conclusion Somaliweyn needs rebranding and a makeover: To represent joint efforts between 5 independent states for the benefit and uplifting of the lifes of all somalis be it via joint security consideration, trade, education, cultural events...

Denial of that which is best for the somalis in general or sepcific to one region is a crime againt somaliweyn. I do hope rather then sitting idle the Landers can spear head the reshaping of somaliweyn for the benefit of all somalis concerned in the short term and also in the long term.

We are greater politically divided and united in spirit!!!

New Somaliweyn it can work.

ONLF is here to stay all haterz eat razor blade

^ Brother i am all for ONLF, but pride aside there more routes to Victory through peace then the single path persented by warfare.

ONLF

Cirwaaq wrote:^ Brother i am all for ONLF, but pride aside there more routes to Victory through peace then the single path persented by warfare.

ONLF

dude its not about peace but freedom.

Peace is when you have the option and both of you are fighting over land that does not belong to you.

The_Patriot wrote:

Cirwaaq wrote:^ Brother i am all for ONLF, but pride aside there more routes to Victory through peace then the single path persented by warfare.

ONLF

dude its not about peace but freedom.

Peace is when you have the option and both of you are fighting over land that does not belong to you.

There has been no change since the 1950ies through warfare... Is it at all possible to actually accelerate independence through peace?

Cirwaaq wrote:

The_Patriot wrote:

Cirwaaq wrote:^ Brother i am all for ONLF, but pride aside there more routes to Victory through peace then the single path persented by warfare.

ONLF

dude its not about peace but freedom.

Peace is when you have the option and both of you are fighting over land that does not belong to you.

There has been no change since the 1950ies through warfare... Is it at all possible to actually accelerate independence through peace?

dude since the 50's the struggle has been hyjacked but know its at its course and the regime is feeling the weight