Drinking Quran?

[Mzbeautifull]

Somali's have tahliils. Is that too much different from this? What are the origins of tahliils anyways, I just always assumed it was part of Islam, now I'm not sure if its something made up or not.

Do you mind defining that word ..please?

Topic maker I have always wondered why the sheikh spits in the
water seen people at the mosque who they said had a jinn inside them and
had to drink water that was read Koran over and the sheikh spat .. into?

[Shirib]

Somali's have tahliils. Is that too much different from this? What are the origins of tahliils anyways, I just always assumed it was part of Islam, now I'm not sure if its something made up or not.

Do you mind defining that word ..please?

Topic maker I have always wondered why the sheikh spits in the
water seen people at the mosque who they said had a jinn inside them and
had to drink water that was read Koran over and the sheikh spat .. into?

Tahliil is water that they read Quran on. Then the person either drinks it or has it thrown on them.

[Mzbeautifull]

Ok .. yes I've seen that before now can you tell me why the Sheikh spits into the water ... ?
or is that not common everywhere ..

[Shirib]

Well they're supposed to more blow into the water and not really spit. But the reason is to get the Quran into the water I guess. Then the person gets the Quran on them. Same thing as when they read Quran on someone. They kinda spit or blow on the person after they read a few verses. I always accepted it as being a part of Islam, now I am questioning myself. If someone knows what the origins of tahliils are please let me know.

[Garaad_LQ]

i think tahliil is الرقية or alruqya

Ruqyah is commonly translated in English as "incantation" which carries a negative meaning, since the word incantation is usually associated with magic, spells, and witchcraft. However, Ruqyah in Islam is the recitation of Qur'an, seeking of refuge, remembrance and supplications that are used as a means of treating sicknesses and other problems.)

Ruqyah are of two types:

1) Ruqyah Ash Shar'eeya
2) Ruqyah Ash Shirkiyah

Ar-Ruqyah Ash Shar'eeyah : mentioned above, it has three conditions. Ibn Hajar (rahimuhullah) said there is a consensus on the using of Ruqyah if three conditions are met:

1) It must be with the speech of Allah (Qur'aan) and his names and attributes.

2) It must be in the Arabic language, or what is known to be its meaning in other languages.

3) To believe that Ruqyah has no benefit by itself, but the benefits are from Allah.

This type of Ruqyah is permissible and is the main subject of this topic.

Ar Ruqyah Ash Shirkiyah: this contradicts the conditions of Ruqyah Ash Shar'eeyah and has in it Shirk, associating partners with Allah. It leads a person to his destruction in this life and the next and increases calamities and sicknesses. This type of Ruqyah is prohibited, from the statement of the Prophet (saws) This type includes: Magic (whether learning, practicing, or teaching it), Fortune telling, Horoscopes, superstitious belief, and at-Tameemah ( charms and amulets).


for the whole article http://www.missionislam.com/health/quranhealing.html


لحمد لله. يستحب للراقي إذا رقى المريض وغيره أن ينفث عليه ( وهو نفخ مع ريق يسير ) كما ثبت في السنة وكانا اغالب هدي النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم فعل ذلك كما في الصحيحين : ( أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم كان إذا اشتكى يقرأ عل نفسه بالمعوذات وينفث ، فلما اشتد وجعه كنت أقرأ عليه ، وأمسح بيده ، رجاء بركتها ) ، وتجوز القراءة بلا نفث عن ابن عباس قال : كان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يعوذ الحسن والحسين ويقول : ( أعيذكمـا بكلمات الله التامة من كل شيطان وهامة ومن كل عين لامة ) رواه البخاري ، ولا يشترط في الرقية المسح على المرقي عليه إن شاء الراقي مسح بيده كما قالت عائشة : ( كان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم إذا اشتكى نفث على نفسه بالمعوذات ومسح عنه بيده ) متفق عليه . وإن شاء لم يمسح عليه واكتفى بالنفث عليه كما ثبت في صحيح مسلم ( كان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم إذا مرض أحد من أهل بيته نفث عليه بالمعوذات ).
والرقية الصحيحة الواردة عن الشرع هي ما كانت القراءة فيها والنفث مباشرة لبدن المريض في مكان القراءة ولو لم يكن المريض ملاصقا له مادام النفث يصله ، لأن هذه الصفة هي التي وردت عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم و لأنه لم ينقل عنه أنه رقى إنسانا بعيد أو غائبا ولأن مقصود الرقية انتفاع المريض ببركة القرآن والذكر بواسطة ريق الراقي ونفخه ، أما الشخص البعيد أو الغائب فالمشروع في حقه الدعاء له بالشفاء أو الحفظ ونحوه من المطالب الحسنة ولا تصح الرقية عليه لتعذرها وحقيقة الدعاء له طلب من الله أن يشفيه ويحقق له ذلك بخلاف الرقية فظهر الفرق بين مقام الرقية ومقام الدعاء ، فعلى ذلك إذا كان ولدك بعيدا لا تباشريه فلا ترقي عليه وإنما ادعي له.
والله أعلم وصلى الله وسلم على نبينا محمد وآله وصحبه أجمعين.
بقلم : خالد بن سعود البليهد
عضو الجمعية العلمية السعودية للسنة

[samadoon-waaxid]

Somali's have tahliils. Is that too much different from this? What are the origins of tahliils anyways, I just always assumed it was part of Islam, now I'm not sure if its something made up or not.

Do you mind defining that word ..please?

Topic maker I have always wondered why the sheikh spits in the
water seen people at the mosque who they said had a jinn inside them and
had to drink water that was read Koran over and the sheikh spat .. into?

according to the sunnah u suppose to blow on the body of that person.there is no evidence the prophet ever spat on a water. as for the Jinn there is no evidence that a jinn can go inside a human as well. its a make believe.
Garaad: any evidence of ruqia being on the water as oppose tothe body of the sick

[Garaad_LQ]

Somali's have tahliils. Is that too much different from this? What are the origins of tahliils anyways, I just always assumed it was part of Islam, now I'm not sure if its something made up or not.

Do you mind defining that word ..please?

Topic maker I have always wondered why the sheikh spits in the
water seen people at the mosque who they said had a jinn inside them and
had to drink water that was read Koran over and the sheikh spat .. into?

according to the sunnah u suppose to blow on the body of that person.there is no evidence the prophet ever spat on a water. as for the Jinn there is no evidence that a jinn can go inside a human as well. its a make believe.
Garaad: any evidence of ruqia being on the water as oppose to the body of the sick

i couldn't find anything about water in Arabic sources , biyaha wax lagu tufayo Somaali iyo some Africans kali ah ayaan ku arkay , .. you're right it suppose to be blow on the body of the sick as in nafth yanfoth, but it's not sharad ,believing Allah is the healer the recitation of the Quran is enough . wa Allah aclam

[samadoon-waaxid]

^agreed bro,but the notion of drinking ink is still gross