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qoraxeey

If that works for u then fine. Hiiraale is not a warlord and neither is Maxamed Dheere, Qeybdiid, Caato, etc. Hell Somalia never had warlords

Shirib wrote:

grandpakhalif wrote:

Shirib wrote:They got rid of Barre Hiiraale. Say Masha'Allah

How does Barre hiiraale affect you in any way whatsoever, he was the most kind and gracious leader ever. Unlike Maxamad Dheere and other warlords.

count every warlord they got rid of and that's your 10 accomplishments

the hell are you talking about ICU era was short lived, Al shabab are nothing short but warlords. You may love them now because Abu mansuur is your warlord.

Shirib wrote:

greenday wrote:

Shirib wrote:They got rid of Barre Hiiraale. Say Masha'Allah

Who was he and what did he do?


How can they fight and defend Somalia, impose rules when none voted them in?

I'm not aware of elections happening anywhere in Somalia, except maybe SomaliLand. So therefore I fail to see what the vote has anything to do with them.

Jaale Siyaad ruled for 21 years no one voted him in and he did a pretty good job of defending Somalia and imposing rules

and for Barre Hiiraale, he's a warlord, I only mentioned him to get on grandpakhalif

In one way another people gave consent to being ruled, when i said voting i didn’t mean going to the polls. And you have to remember that times have changed no one will put up with people coming from nowhere wanting to rule you. No matter how good Siyaad barre was he was a dictator maybe good at him time but not now. And the TFG are representatives of the people however bad they might be.

Do you really think religion and politics should be mixed?

And the TFG are representatives of the people however bad they might be.

Did the somali people asked for the TFG? no they did not warlords created the TFG in Kenya and Djibouti the same warlords shirib is talking about created the TFG with the blessings of unlce sam

Shirib wrote:qoraxeey

If that works for u then fine. Hiiraale is not a warlord and neither is Maxamed Dheere, Qeybdiid, Caato, etc. Hell Somalia never had warlords

Dude Abu Mansuur's own brother was a top commander in the RRA, so warlordism is part and parcel of Al shabab.

khalid ali wrote:

And the TFG are representatives of the people however bad they might be.

Did the somali people asked for the TFG? no they did not warlords created the TFG in Kenya and Djibouti the same warlords shirib is talking about created the TFG with the blessings of unlce sam

Hey can you get out of our business your from somaliland, stop interferring in our internal affairs.

greenday wrote:In one way another people gave consent to being ruled, when i said voting i didn’t mean going to the polls. And you have to remember that times have changed no one will put up with people coming from nowhere wanting to rule you. No matter how good Siyaad barre was he was a dictator maybe good at him time but not now. And the TFG are representatives of the people however bad they might be.

Do you really think religion and politics should be mixed?

How is the TFG a legitimate representative of the people. TFG was made up in a foreign country by foreigners. No one elected them, majority of them were hand picked by warlords. They don't represent anyone but their greedy selfish selves.

Yes, secularism has failed, and failed badly. Somalia is completely Muslim, so there is no reason to not rule them with sharia.

I think clannism and politics shouldn't be mixed

There isn't a single group worthy of support!

1. TFG allow Amisom to shell civilians daily and Amisom have killed more people per day then shabab have killed in their entire time controlling any particular area.

2. TFG have not engaged with the civilians to gain their support, shabab have the support of the majority.

3. TFG does not have neither the respect nor the fear of the majority, shabab have a mix of respect and fear.

4. Remove TFG their is a chance for some sort of order however inhumane... Remove shabab and there is certainty new forms of political predators will form.

The most desirable solution would be one in which TFG and the Islamic movements agree to settle their differences and work together for the benefit of the civilians

TFG and Shabab can counter balance each other for the benefit of the people and security of the country.

What's this kids deal with Abu Mansuur. I almost never mention the guy yet he tries to make it seem as if I love him like he loves Farmaajo and Hiiraale.

Get over yourself kid.

grandpakhalif wrote:

khalid ali wrote:

And the TFG are representatives of the people however bad they might be.

Did the somali people asked for the TFG? no they did not warlords created the TFG in Kenya and Djibouti the same warlords shirib is talking about created the TFG with the blessings of unlce sam

Hey can you get out of our business your from somaliland, stop interferring in our internal affairs.

i will stop be in your business the day xarmaajo and Sh dalxiis stop claiming Somaliland

Islam teaches us that Islam and politics should not be separated so why should we go against that

Shirib wrote:What's this kids deal with Abu Mansuur. I almost never mention the guy yet he tries to make it seem as if I love him like he loves Farmaajo and Hiiraale.

Get over yourself kid.

Dude, you always defend Al shabab. Al shabab have alot of bad elements which you always turn a blind eye to.

Do you deny the stoning of 13 yr old girl?

Do you deny their transnational agenda?
Do you deny their international link with Al Qaeda the very same country your beloved America is at war with?
Do you deny heavy foreign jihadi participation?

These people are alien to Somalia. I rather be ruled by a warlord then someone who intervenes in my personal life and takes away my dignity.

grandpakhalif wrote:

khalid ali wrote:

And the TFG are representatives of the people however bad they might be.

Did the somali people asked for the TFG? no they did not warlords created the TFG in Kenya and Djibouti the same warlords shirib is talking about created the TFG with the blessings of unlce sam

Hey can you get out of our business your from somaliland, stop interferring in our internal affairs.

what do you have againste ethnic somalis from north interferring in Somali issue's when pastor musaveni and midget meles are given free pass and can do as they please,

Shirib wrote:

greenday wrote:In one way another people gave consent to being ruled, when i said voting i didn’t mean going to the polls. And you have to remember that times have changed no one will put up with people coming from nowhere wanting to rule you. No matter how good Siyaad barre was he was a dictator maybe good at him time but not now. And the TFG are representatives of the people however bad they might be.

Do you really think religion and politics should be mixed?

How is the TFG a legitimate representative of the people. TFG was made up in a foreign country by foreigners. No one elected them, majority of them were hand picked by warlords. They don't represent anyone but their greedy selfish selves.

Yes, secularism has failed, and failed badly. Somalia is completely Muslim, so there is no reason to not rule them with sharia.

I think clannism and politics shouldn't be mixed

Being a Muslim is a choice what clan you're born to is not, so how can we tell people how to follow Allah? You can mess with clan but to mess with Islam? That’s just wrong and we know that no one can rule a country with sharia in this time and age, i rather qabill was miss used than the diin.

grandpakhalif wrote:

Shirib wrote:What's this kids deal with Abu Mansuur. I almost never mention the guy yet he tries to make it seem as if I love him like he loves Farmaajo and Hiiraale.

Get over yourself kid.

Dude, you always defend Al shabab. Al shabab have alot of bad elements which you always turn a blind eye to.

Do you deny the stoning of 13 yr old girl?

Do you deny their transnational agenda?
Do you deny their international link with Al Qaeda the very same country your beloved America is at war with?
Do you deny heavy foreign jihadi participation?

These people are alien to Somalia. I rather be ruled by a warlord then someone who intervenes in my personal life and takes away my dignity.

1) No 13 year old girl got stoned to death. When that story first broke it was a 22 year old woman who was married to 2 men, and that's why she got stoned. Then 2 days later some dude comes on VOA claiming to be her father and tells this 13 year old story. The thing is father isn't in Somalia. Says he sent his kid to Kismaayo, and then she was on her way to Xamar to visit her grandmother by herself when she got raped.

First off who sends a kid to southern Somalia by themselves.
And second off how does a 13 year old who is not from Somalia travel from Kismaayo to Xamar by themselves.

The entire 13 year old story is bullshit.

2) Transnational waa is tus tus

3) Al who?

4) Yea there's some of em. Few hundred at best. Blame the President of the TFG, he told em to come