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Re: Evangelical Christian education
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:45 pm
by union
fisabililah wrote:Great another pseudo-intellectual on Somalinet, searching for that American version of Islaam.
Attacking the messenger rather than the message are we?
Re: Evangelical Christian education
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:45 pm
by Cumar-Labasuul
union wrote:“And He (Allah/God) has created you in different stages and different forms ... And Allah has caused you to develop as a good growth from the earth. [Qur'an 71:14,17]
You can try to distort the word of god all you want, but if you persist you will be among the loosers on the day of reckoning.
Besides this aayah is explaing the different stages of the foetus in the mother's womb and the term 'different forms' means the different nations aka ethnicities.
Re: Evangelical Christian education
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:50 pm
by union
Cumar-Labasuul wrote:union wrote:“And He (Allah/God) has created you in different stages and different forms ... And Allah has caused you to develop as a good growth from the earth. [Qur'an 71:14,17]
You can try to distort the word of god all you want, but if you persist you will be among the loosers on the day of reckoning.
Besides this aayah is explaing the different stages of the foetus in the mother's womb and the term 'different forms' means the different nations aka ethnicities.
(71:17) And Allah has caused you to grow out of the earth so wondrously
And am I also distorting this one too?
Re: Evangelical Christian education
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:52 pm
by Cumar-Labasuul
union wrote:Cumar-Labasuul wrote:union wrote:“And He (Allah/God) has created you in different stages and different forms ... And Allah has caused you to develop as a good growth from the earth. [Qur'an 71:14,17]
You can try to distort the word of god all you want, but if you persist you will be among the loosers on the day of reckoning.
Besides this aayah is explaing the different stages of the foetus in the mother's womb and the term 'different forms' means the different nations aka ethnicities.
(71:17) And Allah has caused you to grow out of the earth so wondrously
And am I also distorting this one too?
Clutching at straws I see. I think you need to brush up on your research, do you even know how god created man/Adam?
Re: Evangelical Christian education
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:57 pm
by union
Cumar-Labasuul wrote:
Clutching at straws I see. I think you need to brush up on your research, do you even know how god created man/Adam?
I need to brush up on my research?
How about all the scientific research on evolution? Is that all wrong? Are you the creationist the flatly denies evolution, or the one that mixes science and literal religion in a rather bizarre mix?
And of course I know how god created man. Through evolution.

Re: Evangelical Christian education
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:59 pm
by Antishukaansi
Cumar-Labasuul wrote:
Clutching at straws I see. I think you need to brush up on your research, do you even know how god created man/Adam?
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The problem is that evolution (as its widely accepted) does not just stick to evolution within a species, ie. size of people etc. It is saying that one species can arise from another. That if we go back far enough everything emerged from the water and one of those branches evolved into man.The Quran, however, says that Adam (pbuh) was created and then later put on the earth. As far as I know he had human form. Therefore this goes against the generally accepted theory of evolution.
I'm really confused!

Re: Evangelical Christian education
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:03 pm
by Cumar-Labasuul
union wrote:Cumar-Labasuul wrote:
Clutching at straws I see. I think you need to brush up on your research, do you even know how god created man/Adam?
I need to brush up on my research?
How about all the scientific research on evolution? Is that all wrong? Are you the creationist the flatly denies evolution, or the one that mixes science and literal religion in a rather bizarre mix?
And of course I know how god created man. Through evolution.

Yeah and I should believe that we evolved from apes who in turn were created by an explosion, right.
Re: Evangelical Christian education
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:03 pm
by union
The idea that God placed down Adam and Eve on the Earth and they and their offspring subsequently produced the six billion human beings on the planet, and with all their many diverse traits, is a literal interpretation of the qu'ran. One that goes against a great deal of the scientific progress we've made the past few hundred years. Why such an idea is as absurd as saying the "Earth is flat", which people were saying not too long ago.
Re: Evangelical Christian education
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:03 pm
by Antishukaansi
Re: Evangelical Christian education
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:10 pm
by union
Cumar-Labasuul wrote:union wrote:Cumar-Labasuul wrote:
Clutching at straws I see. I think you need to brush up on your research, do you even know how god created man/Adam?
I need to brush up on my research?
How about all the scientific research on evolution? Is that all wrong? Are you the creationist the flatly denies evolution, or the one that mixes science and literal religion in a rather bizarre mix?
And of course I know how god created man. Through evolution.

Yeah and I should believe that we evolved from apes who in turn were created by an explosion, right.
Well, disbelieve it all you want. Your rather crude simplifications really don't do much to discredit scientific evidence. But simply don't drag the children down with you by trying to feed them ignorance and superstition. We need scientists in Somalia, not morons (which we have an abundance of).
Re: Evangelical Christian education
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:13 pm
by gemini_snake
if you believe in evolution, you must also believe that you are an inferior human being.
btw, i don't see anything wrong with the video, in fact i agree with the woman. public schools are crap and the type of stuff they are forcing down the throats of little kids is disgusting. i've even heard about some schools promoting gay lifestyles to kindergartners.

Re: Evangelical Christian education
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:13 pm
by S-D-M
String theory is also fascinating theory, but one can not be Muslim and live in a doubt. That is what some are living in.
I'm just saying ................
Re: Evangelical Christian education
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:16 pm
by union
[quote="gemini_snake"]if you believe in evolution, you must also believe that you are an inferior human being.
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Please explain this logical fallacy.
Re: Evangelical Christian education
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:18 pm
by KingMJ
Haha Charles darwins Evolution said Black people have still not fully evolved and are not as developed as white people. He was praising white people saying they are superior in intellilect, evolution is bullshit.
Everyone is equal, White people aren't superior or more evolved than anyone. Evolution is a pile of crap

Re: Evangelical Christian education
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:25 pm
by union
KingMJ wrote:Haha Charles darwins Evolution said Black people have still not fully evolved and are not as developed as white people. He was praising white people saying they are superior in intellilect, evolution is bullshit.
Everyone is equal, White people aren't superior or more evolved than anyone. Evolution is a pile of crap

Charles Darwin was also a product of his time, and that time black people were subjected to a lot of racism. So I would not be surprised that he held some negative opinions of blacks. But scientists don't hold Darwin as an infallible man, and they obviously disagree with some of his opinions. And currently the majority of scientists today hold that human beings are equal. But evolution is reality. You don't decide whether or not to believe reality on the basis of whim or culture, you simply accept it.