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Re: Apostate insurgency group holding dhoolatus

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:25 pm
by AhlulbaytSoldier
Addoow wrote:
HutuKing01 wrote:Why do you get angry. Or dont you believe in the ''blessed martyrdom operations'' which leads to 72 white virgins?
:?
Watch your mouth,You are mocking islam like a true zindiqi.simple things can take you out of islamic circle Which i believe inaad mar hore ka baxday!

Ok,what do the suicidebombers of alshabaab get in return for their service(to satan)?
Tell us

Re: Apostate insurgency group holding dhoolatus

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:26 pm
by XimanJaale
Addoow wrote:
XimanJaale wrote:If only those child soldiers were shown the right path. :down:
what is better path than defending your land from AMISOM ?
Saxib, these masked man are mooryans after the kursi, they will kill and bully muslims to make sure they get power. If they really care about Islam and their innocent Somalis that were suffering 20 years of war, they would come to the table and have dialogue, they can share their ideas through dialogue and peace, so that everybody can have their say. AMISOM will leave but the only way they leave is through dialogue and not fitna war.

Re: Apostate insurgency group holding dhoolatus

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:28 pm
by Shift
HutuKing01 wrote:Why do you get angry. Or dont you believe in the ''blessed martyrdom operations'' which leads to 72 white virgins?
:?
I remember fox-news using that term over and over to take shots at islam,good to see you taking your place amongst your fellow men :up:

Re: Apostate insurgency group holding dhoolatus

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:29 pm
by AhlulbaytSoldier
Shift wrote:
HutuKing01 wrote:Why do you get angry. Or dont you believe in the ''blessed martyrdom operations'' which leads to 72 white virgins?
:?
I remember fox-news using that term over and over to take shots at islam,good to see you taking your place amongst your fellow men :up:

Wait, you also believe shabaab murtads who blow themselves up and kill muslims will get as reward 72 virgins?

wtf, did this forum go mad :shock:

Re: Apostate insurgency group holding dhoolatus

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:29 pm
by Addoow
HutuKing01 wrote:
Addoow wrote:
HutuKing01 wrote:Why do you get angry. Or dont you believe in the ''blessed martyrdom operations'' which leads to 72 white virgins?
:?
Watch your mouth,You are mocking islam like a true zindiqi.simple things can take you out of islamic circle Which i believe inaad mar hore ka baxday!

Ok,what do the suicidebombers of alshabaab get in return for their service(to satan)?
Tell us
anyone who dies fighting kuffars and semi-kuffars(mooryaans) will freely enter paradise.

Re: Apostate insurgency group holding dhoolatus

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:30 pm
by XimanJaale
Executive wrote:
XimanJaale wrote:If only those child soldiers were shown the right path. :down:


To them thats the right path, they may have had their families killed by the very people they are fighting (TFG, Amsiom & Ethiopia).
Their family were killed by Al Shabab themselves. TFG are always on defence mode. No point blaming TFG. Regarding the right path, which is going to school and do wat normal kids do, and Al Shabab kidnap and snatch children from school to fight for them in a fitna war.

Re: Apostate insurgency group holding dhoolatus

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:31 pm
by kismayogedojubaland
anyone who dies fighting kuffars and semi-kuffars(mooryaans) will freely enter paradise.[/quote]
saas waaye :D :up:

Re: Apostate insurgency group holding dhoolatus

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:32 pm
by Addoow
XimanJaale wrote:
Addoow wrote:
XimanJaale wrote:If only those child soldiers were shown the right path. :down:
what is better path than defending your land from AMISOM ?
Saxib, these masked man are mooryans after the kursi, they will kill and bully muslims to make sure they get power. If they really care about Islam and their innocent Somalis that were suffering 20 years of war, they would come to the table and have dialogue, they can share their ideas through dialogue and peace, so that everybody can have their say. AMISOM will leave but the only way they leave is through dialogue and not fitna war.
Sxb,there is no fitna war as you call it,When there are kuffars like Amisom inside somalia bombing our cities it is our ultimate responsibility to fight them and kick out of our country.

Re: Apostate insurgency group holding dhoolatus

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:32 pm
by grandpakhalif
Al Shabab will have to prove that the TFG are working with kuffar intentionally to fight Islam.

Re: Apostate insurgency group holding dhoolatus

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:33 pm
by AhlulbaytSoldier
Anyone who believes in suicide and the killing of muslims will lead to Paradise and 72 virgins is def a murtad.

Addow,shift need to make towbah before its too late.

Re: Apostate insurgency group holding dhoolatus

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:34 pm
by Shift
HutuKing01 wrote:
Shift wrote:
HutuKing01 wrote:Why do you get angry. Or dont you believe in the ''blessed martyrdom operations'' which leads to 72 white virgins?
:?
I remember fox-news using that term over and over to take shots at islam,good to see you taking your place amongst your fellow men :up:

Wait, you also believe shabaab murtads who blow themselves up and kill muslims will get as reward 72 virgins?

wtf, did this forum go mad :shock:
Someone lied to you and told you were slick,theres nothing new/hip/important or intresting about you.
No one cares about shabaab and what they do,learn to seperate islam and a group of men,your taking shots at your own religion to score cheap points against some teenagers,what does that say about you :?

Re: Apostate insurgency group holding dhoolatus

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:44 pm
by AhlulbaytSoldier
Lets just pray that Allah swt guides shabab to islam or brings out a group which will strike off their heads( i prefer the latter) :up:

Re: Apostate insurgency group holding dhoolatus

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:46 pm
by XimanJaale
Adoow, this is a fitna war, and all Somali scholars agree with it. So you cant call the scholars liars or murtads. Regarding AMISOM they are doing their job of securing peace, Al Shabab attack AMISOM and then AMISOM will respond back with heavy bombs, if Al Shabab care about the people they would choose dialogue and share their ideas with all Somalis. There is no jihad in Somalia, if there was jihad all Somalis wala TFG wala Ahlu Sunnah wala oday wala dhalanyar will come together and fight against Kuffars, but this is not the case, because the Kuffars aka AMISOM are in Xamar to do their job of peacekeeping, if Al Shabab accept dialogue you will see AMISOM out of Somalia because their is no more fight against dowlada.

Re: Apostate insurgency group holding dhoolatus

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:12 pm
by Talo alle udaa
grandpakhalif wrote:Al Shabab will have to prove that the TFG are working with kuffar intentionally to fight Islam.

"Naxnu naxkuma thawaahir, walaahu yaclamu saraa ir" -Cumar (ra)

The Qawaacid of Ahlu sunna wal jamaaca is to judge what is apparent and leave whats hidden for allah to judge. This is the methodology of Cumar ibn al khadaab when he told the companions after the passing of the prophet who received revelations clarifying the munaafiq from the mu'min. Cumar (ra) explained Since the prophet (saw) was gone, people will be judged by what they come by. If someone shows clear allegiance to those fighting the sahaaba such as the persiansa and romans, then he will judged by what is apparent, since his intentions could never be known.


This line of argument, that the accusers have to prove the other party is "intentionally"
doing kufr, is quite old, and it has been used before. FYI you can check this thread about the struggles of Sh. Usman dan fodio who, interestengly was a sufi from the qaadiriya order, but still waged jihad against those who were committing shirk and immoral islamic rulers. Some of the scholars defending the rulers he was fighting used the same argument that it was not the intention of those worshiping idols and graves to do so, and they were replied with that the intention of the perpetuators would be left to GOD, and us humans would judge the actions with which the accused party were guilty of.

link:

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=259547&p=3065406#p3065406

Re: Apostate insurgency group holding dhoolatus

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:39 pm
by GacanSareeye
Al Fataaniin :clap: