Self-determination for all.

[Siciid85]

Just telling It like it's sxb. And of all Somalis saxib you guys are by far the weakest link. And by you I mean those of you from the south. Your plight is hopelessly depressing. I chuckle whenever I hear southerner preaching to somaliland of what they can and cannot do. Read my lipse volty your country is the anal of the world and thus your opinion on the geopolicals of the region deos not hold weight. Ka tasho aayahaaga, anagu tashanay oo soconay.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

They don't want their own state, they want to be part of Somalia and borders are flexible. Eritrea and Ethiopia did it village by village.

Then they should look no further than Puntland: their brothers to the east, who also support somalia.

[The_Emperior5]

voltage we are very close in uniting the people of Somaliland we united what 95% of the people its all step by step there was a time we did not control eastern sool now we do there was a time we did not control eastern sanaag now we do and ssc is just a recation of the the diaspora members who want to play the clan card on their own people but they are locked up in a border disputed village called buhoodle, so far we are doing a good job.

[EastAfrica]

Siciid lately you have been making the least sense of anyone here. Take a chill pill sxb, you need a timeout.

for discussion purpose, let us assume, they want to have their own state, my practical question to you is..where would they drawn their borders? you know and i know Sool, sanaag and cayn are mixed degaans

Every somali region is mixed deegaan, the territories of former British Somali Colony is mixed degaan - one clan cannot claim it

- Awdal is owned by Samaroon,
- Gobolka Woqooyi Galbeed is mixed Deegaan, West WoqooyiGalbeed is owned by Samaroon (Gabiley and Arabsiyo is owned by Samaroon),
- Sanaag/Maakhir is owned by Warsangali
- Togdheer is mixed deegaan (East Togdheer is owned by Dhulbahante), SSC is owned Dhulbahante

[grandpakhalif]

Just telling It like it's sxb. And of all Somalis saxib you guys are by far the weakest link. And by you I mean those of you from the south. Your plight is hopelessly depressing. I chuckle whenever I hear southerner preaching to somaliland of what they can and cannot do. Read my lipse volty your country is the anal of the world and thus your opinion on the geopolicals of the region deos not hold weight. Ka tasho aayahaaga, anagu tashanay oo soconay.

Your acting like Somaliland is some developed wonder of the world

[Cirwaaq]

Cirwaaq, you have by far given the dumbest response of anyone in here. What Somalia is and who is part of it apart from Somaliland is not in question. It is sad to see someone trying to make a point with zero relevance. Looks like you just want attention.

Brother at times you go way above yourself. You are opening a door and stepping into a darkness.

Simplification:

Somalia - state 1

Somaliland - state 2

Both gained independence in 1960 witnessed by the international community. They formed a union.

My only intended addition to your topic is we in Somalia are in a weaker position and at more risk of that you wish to inflict on the other state. Paradign shift: entertaining arguements on the forced dismemberment of a state that joined our state in a union has a greater potential of causing dismemberment of our own state. Every arguement we make today to support the disintegration of Sland we are merely seeding the minds of opportunists who will use those arguements to apply them on Somalia. The opportunity of fragmentation is far more a real prospect for us then it is in the other state.

We should be wary of what we saw.

[Siciid85]

Just telling It like it's sxb. And of all Somalis saxib you guys are by far the weakest link. And by you I mean those of you from the south. Your plight is hopelessly depressing. I chuckle whenever I hear southerner preaching to somaliland of what they can and cannot do. Read my lipse volty your country is the anal of the world and thus your opinion on the geopolicals of the region deos not hold weight. Ka tasho aayahaaga, anagu tashanay oo soconay.

Your acting like Somaliland is some developed wonder of the world

It is. So know your place kid.

[Siciid85]

granpa k
I am under no illusion of the status of my country. 20 years of peace and steady progress is enough for me to brag. What have you done in last 20 years except embrass the Somali race and defame our name around the world.

[grandpakhalif]

Just telling It like it's sxb. And of all Somalis saxib you guys are by far the weakest link. And by you I mean those of you from the south. Your plight is hopelessly depressing. I chuckle whenever I hear southerner preaching to somaliland of what they can and cannot do. Read my lipse volty your country is the anal of the world and thus your opinion on the geopolicals of the region deos not hold weight. Ka tasho aayahaaga, anagu tashanay oo soconay.

Your acting like Somaliland is some developed wonder of the world

It is. So know your place kid.

The delusion continues

[SLJOOFAY]

Cirwaaq, you have by far given the dumbest response of anyone in here. What Somalia is and who is part of it apart from Somaliland is not in question. It is sad to see someone trying to make a point with zero relevance. Looks like you just want attention.

Brother at times you go way above yourself. You are opening a door and stepping into a darkness.

Simplification:

Somalia - state 1

Somaliland - state 2

Both gained independence in 1960 witnessed by the international community. They formed a union.

My only intended addition to your topic is we in Somalia are in a weaker position and at more risk of that you wish to inflict on the other state. Paradign shift: entertaining arguements on the forced dismemberment of a state that joined our state in a union has a greater potential of causing dismemberment of our own state. Every arguement we make today to support the disintegration of Sland we are merely seeding the minds of opportunists who will use those arguements to apply them on Somalia. The opportunity of fragmentation is far more a real prospect for us then it is in the other state.

We should be wary of what we saw.

Well said.

[The_Emperior5]

east africa this is how it is so baro

Sool is 4 degmo

degmada caynabo Isaaq
degmada xudun Isaaq darod
degmada laascanood darood hawiye faqashini
degmada taleex darood

sanaag
demgada ceelafweyn Isaaq
degmada ceerigaabo isaaq
Degmada badhan darood

gobolka togdheer
Degmada oodweyne isaaq
degmada burco isaaq
degmada balidhig isaaq
degmada duriqsi isaaq
Degmada buhoodle isaaq darood

Gobolka saaxil
degmada sheikh isxaaq
degmada berbera isaaq
degmada bulaxaar isaaq
Degmada Goda weyn isaaq

Gobolka maroodijeex
degmada salaxlay isaaq
degmada baligubudle isaaq
degmada gabiley isaaq
caasimada hargeysa dalka for every one somalilander
Degmada wajaale isaaq

Gobolka awdal
Degmada lughaye isaaq Gadabuursi
degmada baki gadabuursi
degmada borama gadabuursi
Degmada dila gadabuursi
degmada seylac gadabuursi ciise iyo isaaq

[Siciid85]

Grandpa,

ciyaal baa tahay adigu. You have time and again showed that you could not be entrusted to hold a position on anything Consistanly for more than a week. It's no suprise that you currently support alshabab, recently you supported the TFg and you basically flipped between those two. I blame your mentour volty for teaching you this art of dual personality.

[grandpakhalif]

Grandpa,

ciyaal baa tahay adigu. You have time and again showed that you could not be entrusted to hold a position on anything Consistanly for more than a week. It's no suprise that you currently support alshabab, recently you supported the TFg and you basically flipped between those two. I blame your mentour volty for teaching you this art of dual personality.

How is that relevant to the discussion ? Your assertion that Somaliland is some hub of prosperity compared to what you described as "hopelessly depressing." On the contrary the south has relative peace and stability, Xamar will eventually be the same. How do you know whether development is not happening ? Al Shabab doesn't care what the international community thinks of them . Because of that the South is self sufficient unlike Somaliland which is heavily dependant on food aid. The delusion that the south is hopeless can only be sold to your white delegates, not too us

[Siciid85]

When you stop flip flopping once in every week to a different sides. People might actually take you serious. Once again i blame your mentour voltage for infecting you with bipolarism.

[grandpakhalif]

What a pathetic rebuttal, when one can't refute facts he resorts to personal attacks.