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Re: Inter-clan marriage has failed
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:41 pm
by MujahidAishah
Siciid85 wrote:We are talking about the new generation though. Not the old generation.
The new generation marry every tribe .. ive been to an HJ and hawiye wedding i was like wtf

that one for the books ... the new generation are not that racist look at that girl that married a miigan guy in hargeisa that caused an uproar .. calafka buur kastay ka tuurii you cant help who you fall in love with

Re: Inter-clan marriage has failed
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:48 pm
by Siciid85
Are we talking about Qurbaha or Backhome? If we are talking about backhome most clans tend to marry among themselfs apart from the pastoralists who live in miyiga. As for Qurbaha it's true you will see all kinds.
On a second note though it all depends on which clans your family consider shisheeye or not.

Re: Inter-clan marriage has failed
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:59 pm
by MujahidAishah
Siciid85 wrote:Are we talking about Qurbaha or Backhome? If we are talking about backhome most clans tend to marry among themselfs apart from the pastoralists who live in miyiga. As for Qurbaha it's true you will see all kinds.
On a second note though it all depends on which clans your family consider shisheeye or not.

Bck home the majority do marry among thier own sub clans but thier are always a few exception .. but i think that a families perception of shisheeye is true i agree with you on that one Sicid
Re: Inter-clan marriage has failed
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:03 pm
by Siciid85
Madelina wrote:I'm encouraging inter marriage...guurgu shiisheye bu ku ficanyahay because your children will have real Abti's

Intermarriage is not something that is new it has been happening for centuries however one needs to analyse it's positives & negatives.
Negatives
For example for males if your kids reer abti are a rival tribe (who constanly clash with your clan) that doesn't look good. Because your kids will lose people on both sides whenever a clash between the sides ensues compared to say if their reer abti were from a different clan that doesn't clash with your clan.
Positives
If your kids reer abti are different from that of yours they tend to have a different experience and wider links with the somali race and they can go to alot of clan settlements using their reer abti's clan connection.
Re: Inter-clan marriage has failed
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:21 pm
by juzme123
RuralMan08 wrote:What has it brang except more war and disaster? The whole wisdom of inter-clan marriage was so that a new generation born have good relations with their reer abti. But I've noticed that over 90% of the wars between Somalis are between close relatives and ilmo abtiyaal i.e Kalshaale,ceelberdaale, galkacyo etc.So if intermarriage doesn't bring us closer then it might aswell be cancelled for good. Iddoor marry Iidoor, Gadabursi marry Gadabursi and Darood marry Darood.
What do you think?
SO you assertion here is that clan-intermarriages have caused conflict and are therfore bad. That is nonsense.
In order to have inter-clan marriages you need two clans right? If you look at all the places you mentioned, they are where two or more clans come together. The cause of conflict is not inter-clan marriage.
Re: Inter-clan marriage has failed
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:16 pm
by hargaysaay
AishahWaqooyi wrote:Siciid85 wrote:We are talking about the new generation though. Not the old generation.
The new generation marry every tribe .. ive been to an HJ and hawiye wedding i was like wtf

that one for the books ... the new generation are not that racist look at that girl that married a miigan guy in hargeisa that caused an uproar .. calafka buur kastay ka tuurii you cant help who you fall in love with

walahi personaly and honestly speaking if i met a beutiful girl that i love and then she turns to be gabooye or midgaan i have absolutely no problem to marry here an introduce her to my parents. its 2011 waxaasi waa inay dhamaadaan
Re: Inter-clan marriage has failed
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:02 am
by Advo
@ the end of the day a girl will marry a guy that she falls in love with regardless, ilaahey muu ahaado mexican.
I have lived long enough for this point to be proven to me on number of occasions.
I went to high school with a isaaqist girl who wore sland shoe laces and wrist band to school daily, she would say she would marry an Issaq lad, she hated majeerteens

but few years later, she married a majeerteen guy

, I have cousins that also married from random qabiils even madhibaan because they fell in love.
Re: Inter-clan marriage has failed
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:51 am
by Xamud.
Nowdays people only marry from their immediate sub-clan, shit like 6-8 kala tirsadan...nothing wrong with inter-clan marriages, I`m the product of a long line of inter-clan marriages, got bits and bobs from every clan

Re: Inter-clan marriage has failed
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:28 am
by LiquidHYDROGEN
Advo wrote:@ the end of the day a girl will marry a guy that she falls in love with regardless, ilaahey muu ahaado mexican.
I have lived long enough for this point to be proven to me on number of occasions.
I went to high school with a isaaqist girl who wore sland shoe laces and wrist band to school daily, she would say she would marry an Issaq lad, she hated majeerteens

but few years later, she married a majeerteen guy

, I have cousins that also married from random qabiils even madhibaan because they fell in love.
Love kulaha, who the hell marries out of love. Bal wuxuu noola imaneyo bal eeg. If a somali girl sees a handsome, charming man who works as a taxi-driver/waiter and she sees a not-so-attractive man who got weak game but drives a brand-new BMW and works as a doctor or lawyer, do you think she's going to choose the first guy?

Re: Inter-clan marriage has failed
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:19 am
by HELWAA
Madelina wrote:At the end of the day you can't help who you fall in love with
Indeed.

Re: Inter-clan marriage has failed
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:17 am
by Mr_Alfaas
AishahWaqooyi wrote:abdi.ismail wrote:I blame the
HA and HJ and and their habit of intermarriage with the shisheeye.
The real pure Isaaq clans are the Arab and Ayuub

. Garxajis has too much Cagdheer and warsan in them.
HA marry Gadabursi who are pro SL HJ ive seen in recent time marry every tribe luv they are the less racist because they have become incredibley religious mashallah
Ayub are tiny dee they are hard to locate that why they marry each other
Tan is caashaqday ba u daran...adeer meel iska fadhiiso dumar qabiil malehe

Re: Inter-clan marriage has failed
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:18 am
by Mr_Alfaas
Re: Inter-clan marriage has failed
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:20 am
by Madelina
Mr_Alfaas wrote:AishahWaqooyi wrote:abdi.ismail wrote:I blame the
HA and HJ and and their habit of intermarriage with the shisheeye.
The real pure Isaaq clans are the Arab and Ayuub

. Garxajis has too much Cagdheer and warsan in them.
HA marry Gadabursi who are pro SL HJ ive seen in recent time marry every tribe luv they are the less racist because they have become incredibley religious mashallah
Ayub are tiny dee they are hard to locate that why they marry each other
Tan is caashaqday ba u daran...adeer meel iska fadhiiso dumar qabiil malehe

Lol Alfaas, inadeer commentka Ayoubka'd ka xanaqday...Ayoub wa gob ana ku leh...

Reerka anooh wali qofna ka arkin, baa'an iska jecladay..
Re: Inter-clan marriage has failed
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:23 am
by MujahidAishah
Mr_Alfaas wrote:AishahWaqooyi wrote:abdi.ismail wrote:I blame the
HA and HJ and and their habit of intermarriage with the shisheeye.
The real pure Isaaq clans are the Arab and Ayuub

. Garxajis has too much Cagdheer and warsan in them.
HA marry Gadabursi who are pro SL HJ ive seen in recent time marry every tribe luv they are the less racist because they have become incredibley religious mashallah
Ayub are tiny dee they are hard to locate that why they marry each other
Tan is caashaqday ba u daran...adeer meel iska fadhiiso dumar qabiil malehe

ooh maa dad baan caaya inadeer ruun baan sheegay ..ayub are good people but dee way yaraheen maa beentaday
maa ayub baaheed
Re: Inter-clan marriage has failed
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:27 am
by Mr_Alfaas
Madelina
Lol Alfaas, inadeer commentka Ayoubka'd ka xanaqday...Ayoub wa gob ana ku leh...

Reerka anooh wali qofna ka arkin, baa'an iska jecladay.
alfaas ba aragte inta maanay kugu filneyn.
