King Abdullah returns home

[union]

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Chopping off hands is not a "deterrent" but a despicable practice that has no place in the 21st century. It also has no basis in Islam, and is banned in dozens of enlightened Muslim nations like Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc. To combat crime, a soceity need to reduce poverty and increase spending on education, and then crime rates will go down. Nations like Finland have very low crime rates because of this, and not because of threats of cruel and usual punishment. What will chopping off someone's hand do? It will only make them poorer because they won't be able to work as efficiently, and thus more likely to steal. It simply doesn't make sense.

Islam doesn't need a reformation, it simply needs to cleanse itself of the radical elements that have hijacked the religion and have reduced it from being foremost in the world in enlightened thought, back to the ignorance and barbarity you advocate for.

Also, I'd like to call you out on your hypocrisy. For someone who obviously has a disdain for democracy and secular soceity, it's funny how you've decided to live in a soceity that extols these principles. How would these societies have turned out had they let their radical religions run things? Hadn't it been for people who stood up for what's right, The Catholic Church would still be burning scientists and would control political power and everybody would be a great deal more miserable. Put your money where you mouth is and fuck off to some desert town in Mauritania if you want theocracy so badly.

Also, if you think saying "non believer" and "kafir" is going to silence me think again. Those terms are used so often around here that they've long lost their shock factor. You bloody kaffir.

[Estarix]

The Royal Family of the Gulf are a disgrace, the sooner these greedy scum are overthrown the better off the Islamic and Arab world will be.

[The_Patriot]

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Chopping off hands is not a "deterrent" but a despicable practice that has no place in the 21st century. It also has no basis in Islam, and is banned in dozens of enlightened Muslim nations like Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc. To combat crime, a soceity need to reduce poverty and increase spending on education, and then crime rates will go down. Nations like Finland have very low crime rates because of this, and not because of threats of cruel and usual punishment. What will chopping off someone's hand do? It will only make them poorer because they won't be able to work as efficiently, and thus more likely to steal. It simply doesn't make sense.

Islam doesn't need a reformation, it simply needs to cleanse itself of the radical elements that have hijacked the religion and have reduced it from being foremost in the world in enlightened thought, back to the ignorance and barbarity you advocate for.

Also, I'd like to call you out on your hypocrisy. For someone who obviously has a disdain for democracy and secular soceity, it's funny how you've decided to live in a soceity that extols these principles. How would these societies have turned out had they let their radical religions run things? Hadn't it been for people who stood up for what's right, The Catholic Church would still be burning scientists and would control political power and everybody would be a great deal more miserable. Put your money where you mouth is and fuck off to some desert town in Mauritania if you want theocracy so badly.

Also, if you think saying "non believer" and "kafir" is going to silence me think again. Those terms are used so often around here that they've long lost their shock factor. You bloody kaffir.

Dude what you just wrote is pure kufur.

If I was arguing with someone else like jack or James then that would be a different issue but I am talking to a son of a reer badiyo that went abroad and thinks he is white man all over sudden or a house nigger


Dude despicable acts are committed everywhere in the globe and it doesnt mean that the embracing of democracy/secularism has lessened the death of humans and improved the standard of living.but infact we have seen more deaths and wars in this century than even in the mediaeval period.

living and respecting the laws of the land is one thing but turning a blind eye to the vices (or social evils ) committed by the land is another issue.

I mean if wealth determines being right then I guess to you you will try to mimic their culture just to get the hype of it.

You talk of Democracy and USA and yet you want us to turn a blind eye on the genocide that happened to the natives and you call it a virtue. I mean an entire ethnic group was wiped out of an entire continent.

I guess it was the muslim barbarians that committed this acts.


Union have your own independent Ideas don't parrot a dogma that is being reviewed each time by your mentors.

For your info you are not the only one that grew up in the west nor did we start our education in an adult school.

trying to potray any negative issue perpetrated by a few and claiming it to be practiced by mainstream Islam will not give you credit nor showering praises on an ideology that is superficial will not make your ass whiter.

[grandpakhalif]

Subxhanallah patriot he called you kaafir

[LobsterUnit]

caliph abdullah bin abdulasis the lifetime ruler of islamic state of saudi arabia come back to hes caliphate saudi state, as the history teach us CALIPH) KING) is treated like small GOD, people most come on lines to welcome him, not welcoming him becuase they love him but only they fear him.

if this people hade democracy no one will care about him, he would not been treated if hes was a little god himself, democracy does not care CALIPH, , democracy sees this man as any other human, in caliphate regime if you call KING ABDULLAH OR CALIPH YAZID OR CALIPH MUCAAWIYA an IDIOT, its like calling god an idiot, you will be immediately send to be executed, but democrary waxaad ugu yeeri kartaa madaxweynaha tuug tuug dhalay

so caliphate and democracy?

i choooose democracy

Ala maxa Somalinet Gaalo Somali ka buxda

[The_Patriot]

Subxhanallah patriot he called you kaafir

Because I called him a kafir which he is.

I mean just look at his posts you dont need a scholar to give a fatwa against him.

I mean he is mocking the religion left right and pretending to be one, I am sorry if I said he is a kafir but he is a straight up munafiq.

Just look at the lies he is spewing.

[union]

It's a cheap way of avoiding the tough questions to dismiss everything that doesn't conform to your close mindedness as "kufr" or to make ad hominem attacks against me. The condemnations and threats of violence coming from the radical religious fringe will not stop the slow but sure march of free thinking into the Muslim world. You are advocating for dictatorship, cruelty, and scientific ignorance-you won't win this debate and that is why you throw epithets in a vain attempt to remain relevant.

[The_Patriot]

It's a cheap way of avoiding the tough questions to dismiss everything that doesn't conform to your close mindedness as "kufr" or to make ad hominem attacks against me. The condemnations and threats of violence coming from the radical religious fringe will not stop the slow but sure march of free thinking into the Muslim world. You are advocating for dictatorship, cruelty, and scientific ignorance-you won't win this debate and that is why you throw epithets in a vain attempt to remain relevant.

there is nothing constructive nor tough about your questions its more of almalgamation of bolox.

You cannot say you are a muslim then ridicule its tenets.

[Scarletmoon1]

So King Abdullah proved that the heath care in KSA suck right...?

They are just as useless as the britsh royal family.

[union]

We must liberate our concepts of justice, our laws and our legal institutions from the bonds which, even though they are incompatible with the needs of our century, still hold a tight grip on us

[IRONm@N]

Queer Abdullah returns home:

lol they are transporting a camel on a donkey.
where is this guys from?

This must be photo shop, why would anybody transport a camel on a small donkey like that?
the camel its self is the ultimate transportion.

[Estarix]

I believe it's a baby camel.
Funny picture.

[melo]

caliph abdullah bin abdulasis the lifetime ruler of islamic state of saudi arabia come back to hes caliphate saudi state, as the history teach us CALIPH) KING) is treated like small GOD, people most come on lines to welcome him, not welcoming him becuase they love him but only they fear him.

if this people hade democracy no one will care about him, he would not been treated if hes was a little god himself, democracy does not care CALIPH, , democracy sees this man as any other human, in caliphate regime if you call KING ABDULLAH OR CALIPH YAZID OR CALIPH MUCAAWIYA an IDIOT, its like calling god an idiot, you will be immediately send to be executed, but democrary waxaad ugu yeeri kartaa madaxweynaha tuug tuug dhalay

so caliphate and democracy?

i choooose democracy

Ala maxa Somalinet Gaalo Somali ka buxda

Yalaxoow the kaafir isn't worth anyone's time. I stopped responding to him long time ago.