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union wrote:^

Chopping off hands is not a "deterrent" but a despicable practice that has no place in the 21st century. It also has no basis in Islam, and is banned in dozens of enlightened Muslim nations like Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc. To combat crime, a soceity need to reduce poverty and increase spending on education, and then crime rates will go down. Nations like Finland have very low crime rates because of this, and not because of threats of cruel and usual punishment. What will chopping off someone's hand do? It will only make them poorer because they won't be able to work as efficiently, and thus more likely to steal. It simply doesn't make sense.

Islam doesn't need a reformation, it simply needs to cleanse itself of the radical elements that have hijacked the religion and have reduced it from being foremost in the world in enlightened thought, back to the ignorance and barbarity you advocate for.

Also, I'd like to call you out on your hypocrisy. For someone who obviously has a disdain for democracy and secular soceity, it's funny how you've decided to live in a soceity that extols these principles. How would these societies have turned out had they let their radical religions run things? Hadn't it been for people who stood up for what's right, The Catholic Church would still be burning scientists and would control political power and everybody would be a great deal more miserable. Put your money where you mouth is and fuck off to some desert town in Mauritania if you want theocracy so badly.

Also, if you think saying "non believer" and "kafir" is going to silence me think again. Those terms are used so often around here that they've long lost their shock factor. You bloody kaffir.

DR-YALAXOOW wrote:caliph abdullah bin abdulasis the lifetime ruler of islamic state of saudi arabia come back to hes caliphate saudi state, as the history teach us CALIPH) KING) is treated like small GOD, people most come on lines to welcome him, not welcoming him becuase they love him but only they fear him.

if this people hade democracy no one will care about him, he would not been treated if hes was a little god himself, democracy does not care CALIPH, , democracy sees this man as any other human, in caliphate regime if you call KING ABDULLAH OR CALIPH YAZID OR CALIPH MUCAAWIYA an IDIOT, its like calling god an idiot, you will be immediately send to be executed, but democrary waxaad ugu yeeri kartaa madaxweynaha tuug tuug dhalay

so caliphate and democracy?

i choooose democracy

grandpakhalif wrote:Subxhanallah patriot he called you kaafir

union wrote:It's a cheap way of avoiding the tough questions to dismiss everything that doesn't conform to your close mindedness as "kufr" or to make ad hominem attacks against me. The condemnations and threats of violence coming from the radical religious fringe will not stop the slow but sure march of free thinking into the Muslim world. You are advocating for dictatorship, cruelty, and scientific ignorance-you won't win this debate and that is why you throw epithets in a vain attempt to remain relevant.

We must liberate our concepts of justice, our laws and our legal institutions from the bonds which, even though they are incompatible with the needs of our century, still hold a tight grip on us

abdisamad3 wrote:

HutuKing01 wrote:Queer Abdullah returns home:

lol they are transporting a camel on a donkey.
where is this guys from?

GaajoUnit wrote:

DR-YALAXOOW wrote:caliph abdullah bin abdulasis the lifetime ruler of islamic state of saudi arabia come back to hes caliphate saudi state, as the history teach us CALIPH) KING) is treated like small GOD, people most come on lines to welcome him, not welcoming him becuase they love him but only they fear him.

if this people hade democracy no one will care about him, he would not been treated if hes was a little god himself, democracy does not care CALIPH, , democracy sees this man as any other human, in caliphate regime if you call KING ABDULLAH OR CALIPH YAZID OR CALIPH MUCAAWIYA an IDIOT, its like calling god an idiot, you will be immediately send to be executed, but democrary waxaad ugu yeeri kartaa madaxweynaha tuug tuug dhalay

so caliphate and democracy?

i choooose democracy

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