QUESTION ALL ISAAQA

[HooBariiska]

Jeyr do me a favour and suck my left isaaaq nut intaaad ka daalaysid naanaab yahow. Ka waran that Peace idea

[mashallahbro]

Jeyr ASAK brother/sister we support the freedom of all Somalis in Somalia it is unfortunate Somali muslims are being killed by SOmali muslims their brothers and sisters for nothing. Inshallah Allah is merciful and the people of ALL SOMALIA will be together this inshallah will be temporary strife from Borame to Xamar together forever.

Your brother

Mashallahbro

[JeyR]

"I think if you look at the somaliland adiminstarion now, it doesn't look the way it used to be for couple of months ago. my point is when riyaale was president, at least you have someone who is not isaaq who had high position in the three branches of the administaration, if you look at it now, the president is isaaq, vice president is isaaq, the chair person for the guurti or parlamant is isaaq( aadan gaal). that alone shows your administration is isaaq.."


Politics has nothing to do with the qabil riyaale hail from nor silanyos qabils. either you got it or you aint, its that simple. lots of people asked the Q 'If ryaale was still president would we be in the predicament we are in today or is everything that is going on now just the inevitable and was writen on the walls?

As a muslim and a Isaq man, it wouldnt be the truth if i said, 'its right for Somaliland army to be used against a cland (dhulbahante) if that is what realy happened. there is lots of claim and counter claims going with lots of egos working overtime, but one thing that i am certain of is this...That Somaliland has been trying to keep body and soul together for over two decade with no shortage of people who's only hopes and prayers are the downfall of somaliland; externaly as well as internaly.

Thats my two cent, and my limited understanding of whats happening in that region.

Kurki.. Yes Somaliland army is been used against dhulbahante, everyone knows that. We don't hate u guys, but don't come and try to impose your ideology, go head do your thing from Hargaisa to Burco, but SSC own by SSC People,and we are doing our thing...just leave us alonee or alse...

[JeyR]

Jeyr do me a favour and suck my left isaaaq nut intaaad ka daalaysid naanaab yahow. Ka waran that Peace idea

sorry kid, anigu dhuloos baa nala yidhaahdaa dee, waxaan leehay sharaf markaa , ma cayno dadka....

[Kukri]

"I think if you look at the somaliland adiminstarion now, it doesn't look the way it used to be for couple of months ago. my point is when riyaale was president, at least you have someone who is not isaaq who had high position in the three branches of the administaration, if you look at it now, the president is isaaq, vice president is isaaq, the chair person for the guurti or parlamant is isaaq( aadan gaal). that alone shows your administration is isaaq.."

did cumar labasuul just said the vice president is not isaaq you damnnn lax

I didnt write that neef yahow.

[juzme123]

You have made some reasonable points and I will answer your question. Before I do though, address the question to Somalilanders and not just to Isaaq(otherwise clarify why you are addressing it to Isaaq only).

Thanks for the respond.
I think if you look at the somaliland adiminstarion now, it doesn't look the way it used to be for couple of months ago. my point is when riyaale was president, at least you have someone who is not isaaq who had high position in the three branches of the administaration, if you look at it now, the president is isaaq, vice president is isaaq, the chair person for the guurti or parlamant is isaaq( aadan gaal). that alone shows your administration is isaaq..

second one, your own army which suppost to be diverse is no longer that, due to the fact that they fight side by side with one isaaq tribe against dhulbahante..... NO DENY for that one, we all know...that is way I address my question only isaaq becuase somaliland is pure isaaq now, there are view others who are looking their own interest such us xaabsade or some gudubiirsi or warsagali individuals who are not representing their own poeple, other then that, somaliland is isaaq... every one know that...

we could disagree this but still i need to get your opinion for the question
was your administration wrong about the war? maamulkiinu ma ku khaldanaa dagaalkii uu la galay dhulabahante?

First of all I want to rebutt you on a false point you made. As others have pointed out, there are non-isaaq Somalilanders part of the government at both national and regional levels. As you highlighted, there were many non-isaaq Somalilanders at the helm of the last administration, in particular the President Daahir Riyaale Kahin. Kahin served his time as president + a bit extra and every Somalilander recognised him as the president of Somaliland, regardless of his clan. This alone shows that (a) all Somalilanders whether Isaaq or not can serve in the government and that (b) the Somaliland public, whether Isaaq or not accepts this. I don't see how you can say that "Somaliland is pure isaaq now" when facts support that this is not so. A huge proportion of Somaliland's population is non-Isaaq and they, as evryone else in Somaliland, have an interest in a democratic, developing, secure and most of all peaceful Somaliland.

Sabab dhulbahante ay Somaliland qaybtooda uga degi kari wayeen ma jirto. Cid xumaan iyo dhibaato la doonaysaana Somaliland kama jirto. Lakiin militiada SSC ma aha mana metesho beesha Dhulbahante. Militiada SSC waa nabad diid. In dadka qabiil qabiil loo kala sooco ma soconayso.

Somaliland is different from Puntland because it is not built on a clan basis. It is built on inclusiveness and the ability of the citizens of all clans to live together in peace; this was cemented by (shir) beeled meetings in which all clans took place. Hence, Isaaq, Gudabiirsi, ciise, dhulbahante, Gabooye and Fiqishini all live together in peace and work together to develop their country. Furthermore Somaliland is democratic and inclusive and has refrained from invlving itself from adding to the conflict in the south, something that puntland has happily done. For eight years the minority group of gudabiirsi has had the precidency and there has been no problem with the other clans. There is absolutely no reason why the Dhulbahante cannot, like the gudabiirse, isaaq or ciise, live together in Somaliland in peace and part of the political side of things.

The objective of the SSC milita is to destabilise Somaliland abd seize the regions of Sool, Sanaag and Cayn. This milita has on countless occations attacked the citizens of Somaliland as well as military bases. Silaanyo, as the president, has the obligation to defend the country and maintain law and order.

Do you realistically thin it is viable for each Somali sub-sub clan to have their own "state"? Do you realistically think that it is viable for each Somali sub-sub clan to say our land belongs to us and no other Somali people can livew there. Do you realistically think that the SSC militia represents all of the Dhulbahante people when it is confined to the border village of Buuhoodle and even there the elders have kicked them out before. If we went along with this SSC idea that each sub-sub clan should have their own "state", there would be countless little statelets all vying for power and resources, not to mention the endless border wars that would ensue. Take for example the gudabiirsi, one of the minority clans of Somaliland, are they oppressed or occupied? NO! They live peacefully in their "ancestral homeland" and are part of the democratic government of their country. They are not prosecuted or discriminated and can live anywhere in their country, pehaps apart from buuhoodle that is. There is no reason why the dhulbahante can't be part of Somaliland and indeed many of them are and they live, albeit in varying numbers, all over Somaliland.

It has to be noted that the SSC regions are not inhabited exclusively by Dhulbahante people but the regions are shared by numerous sub-clans and sub-sub clans. This invalidates the entire "SSC" movement and militia. What about the Isaaq, Warsangeli, Fiqishini and Gabooye who live in the SSC regions?

My last point. Consider the fact that the SSC militia, formed in Nairobi, only control buuhoodle. Also consider that the only place where the clashes, or "war" as you put it, took place is around Buuhoodle, the area that the SSC militia control. In all the other areas of the Sool, Sanaag and Cayn regions, peace provails and all clans of Somaliland live side by side. Somaliland is not the problem here, nor is it Isaaq or Dhulbahante. The only problem is the SSC militia (leadership) who are trying to divide Somaliland along clan lines and trying to create a "state" in which they can have positions of power.

P.S: for reference, the vice president is gadabuursi
The Information minister is Dhulbahante
head of police is gadabuursi.
the General of the western front of Somaliland is gadabuursi
The Minister of justice is gadabuursi
and many more at various levels.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

Jeyr I have a question for you: If you guys do not support somaliland then why do you accept gobols created by a somaliland government i.e. Cayn?

[HooBariiska]

Jeyr do me a favour and suck my left isaaaq nut intaaad ka daalaysid naanaab yahow. Ka waran that Peace idea

sorry kid, anigu dhuloos baa nala yidhaahdaa dee, waxaan leehay sharaf markaa , ma cayno dadka....

haye maanta ma googarad baa lagu xidhay, waadii caabaadi jiray ee cirka isku waabin jiray, ileen sidii adeerkaa xiire ayaa googarad laguu xidhay. Good boy hadaba edab yeelo and kick back in this section, hadii kale waa saabaxaad

[mashallahbro]

Please brothers and sisters Warsangaalie and Dholbhanto are brothers and sisters and Sool-Sanaag-Cayn and all of Somalia belongs to all our Somali brothers and sisters and we are all happy citizens of Somalia. We Darood do not want to break Somalia Jeyr and SSC and Daroods can speak for all Daroods when we say we love Somalia and love all the tribes of Somalia our brothers and sisters. We will be together forever. 1 Somalia no tribes will tell another tribe he/she they must divide Somalis

Your brother

Mashallahbro

[Salah Al-Din]

Jery, I'm sorry brother, but you are grossly mistaken. Please see my comments in blue.

I wanna see your opinion guys, can u guys answer as honestly as you can for these quesions.

waxaynu ognahay in dagaal xuni dhacay buuhoodle area kaasoo gaystay qasaarooyin badan oo dhimasho iyo dhaawacba leh, colaad aan hore u jirin oo badatay.
ever since ssc was formed in nairobi, it had carried out hit & run attacks in and around lascanood. then it was told to move to buuhoodle. there were clashes in widhwidh. the fighting in kalshaale was an extension of these tensions.

markii arintani bilaabantay, dhulbahante waxay codsadeen in baraagaha la aaso, kalshaale ciidamada somaliland ka baxaan. ka dib dhimasho iyo dhaawac badan, baraagahii waad aasteen,kalshaale waad ogolaateen inaad ka baxdaan...
two subclans fought over water holes. mediation was done. a judgement rendered said the land belongs to both sub clans. and since there is a drought it makes no sense to destroy the water holes but the other subclan should also have the same number of water hols dug. this was not to the liking of those in buuhoodle, with the SSC calling for war. ssc mafia was against the mediation. calling the elders who went to the mediation as trators. somaliland as a responsible government sent troops to make sure the two sides did not fight until a final solution can be made. what did ssc do? they fought with the somaliland government troops. do you expect troops to just be shelled without ratliation? i don't think so. the ssc side lost, and 41 prisoners were taken. now both sides have decided to try another go, althought it makes no sense to destroy water hole when there is a drought, in the name of peace they are destroyed. the elders in buuhodle have agreed to having this area as not exclusive for any one. and inshallah peace will prevail. ssc will have no justification for war.
takale, dagaalkani wuxuu mideeyey dhulbahante oo dhan,iminka waxaa dhici doonta in laas caanood inay farihiina ka baxdaan, waayo dadkii dhulabahante idiin ma arkaan inaad dad wax lala qabsan karo tihiin, sababtoo ah dagaalkii oo loo arkay in isaaq oo dhami hadii ay tahay maamulkii iyo qabiilooyinkiiba ay dhulbahante isu raaceen.

ssc tried to make this war a clan war, but it will not happen. somaliland will not fight with its citizens. but it will not allow a reberl movement to fight its authority. somaliland will not and has never had intentions of going into buhoodle. but it will secure its borders one village at a time peacefully.

my question is:
was this war a mistake your administration made? dagaalkani ma ku khaldanayd somaliland?
please just give reasonable answer.. thanx all

war is never the answer. somaliland is not interested in war. but it will capture and destroy any rebels that attack it.

[EastAfrica]

Jeyr I have a question for you: If you guys do not support somaliland then why do you accept gobols created by a somaliland government i.e. Cayn?

People of SSC support United Somalia, and they don't support secessionist clan of Somalidiid-land, also people od SSC don't support and don't recognize gobols created by snm/somalidiid-land faction. There is no gobol called Cayn in Somaliland. But in Puntland and SSC there is Gobol called Cayn.


Abdulahi Yusuf and Puntland Government created Cayn region in 1998. People of Buhoodle and Puntland Government introduced the name "Cayn" in 1998.

[razer]

Qurjilles you are asking the wrong ppl the questions.the problems youre facing is internal deal with it stop callaaal