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hargaysaay wrote:thanks for giving and sharing your point of view sxb

but still you have not directly aswered my question do you mr cirwaaq think taking and moving the leader ship to north is gona help re build somalia abd and restore the stability that was lost 1991
Personally NO.

The conflict over moqadishu is predominantly for control of the wealth generated there and secondly because of it's status of state seat of power.

Moving capital north addresses a lesser component of the problem of moqadishu not the major cause of the conflicts there.
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abdi.ismail wrote:Cirwaaq bro, there's no such thing as somaliweyne. Not if this forum is anything to go by. :down:
Somaliweyn does not need them, they may not need somaliweyn but future generations may benefit from it. Considering Uganda, Tanzania, Kenya etc are considering single currency, trade, security and other ties.
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abdi.ismail wrote:Cirwaaq bro, there's no such thing as somaliweyne. Not if this forum is anything to go by. :down:
Somaliweyn does not need them, they may not need somaliweyn but future generations may benefit from it. Considering Uganda, Tanzania, Kenya etc are considering single currency, trade, security and other ties.
Unfortunately, these sick individuals do reflect what's on the ground. Somalia proper is dead, while Somaliland is hanging by an umbilical cord with the danger of it being stillborn. Somali Galbeed (Most not all) have reconciled themselves with the fact that they are an ethiopian province and Djibouti is a nation forever plagued with being an unknown, destitute outpost for the french and american militaries. Yep it's good to be a Somali. :mrgreen:
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Somaliweyne in the sense of all of the Somali speaking people of East Africa being united in one nation is dead!! anybody who still believes in that is either hoping for a miracle, trying to undermine Somalilands progress or just plain dilusional.
Somaliweyne in the sense of five functioning Somali states seperatly independent with an open borders policy is also highly unlikely if not completly imposible.
The only viable option in is three succesful Somali nations in Djibouti, Somalia and Somaliland along with two semi-autonomous Somali states (Ogadeen and NFD).
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:mrgreen:

Who would have thought Einstein would split the atom?

It is he who said:
"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds."
and
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
Reflecting back on the topic, some people learn through verbal instruction, for some you write instruction and then there are others who need to be shown by example.
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somaliweyn is possible is sense that we can share common currency, can have free movement of labour and capital. we can harmonise out educational systems, and can have common defence policy. to make it short, we can have a system similar to that of the european union between free somali nations, somalia, somaliland and djibouti.
we will allow people from remaining two nations, somali_galbeed and NFD, to live, work and invest in our countries. we will export our educational systems, cultural developments,etc, to let them keep base with the rest.
also i believe somali galbeed can gain independence with the wright leadership and with the wright strategy. it is possible to gain it without firing one single bullet.
qof kasta oo qorshe aan kaa ahayn la yimaadaa u lunsan yahay, mana wado dan umad somaliyeed. i agree mainly with cirwaaq guy, sababta oo ah uu fikir fiican yahay.
yarka la yidhaa hargeysaay waxaan leeyahay iska daa naive nimoda, dabcan waad niyad fiican tahay laakiin ma fikrad fiicnid. fikir fiican ayaa lagu dhisaa ummad ee niyad fiican laguma dhiso.
viva :som: viva :sland: viva :dj: viva somali_galbeed (ogadenia), viva NFD.
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samatar133 wrote:somaliweyn is possible is sense that we can share common currency, can have free movement of labour and capital. we can harmonise out educational systems, and can have common defence policy. to make it short, we can have a system similar to that of the european union between free somali nations, somalia, somaliland and djibouti.
we will allow people from remaining two nations, somali_galbeed and NFD, to live, work and invest in our countries. we will export our educational systems, cultural developments,etc, to let them keep base with the rest.
also i believe somali galbeed can gain independence with the wright leadership and with the wright strategy. it is possible to gain it without firing one single bullet.
qof kasta oo qorshe aan kaa ahayn la yimaadaa u lunsan yahay, mana wado dan umad somaliyeed. i agree mainly with cirwaaq guy, sababta oo ah uu fikir fiican yahay.
yarka la yidhaa hargeysaay waxaan leeyahay iska daa naive nimoda, dabcan waad niyad fiican tahay laakiin ma fikrad fiicnid. fikir fiican ayaa lagu dhisaa ummad ee niyad fiican laguma dhiso.
viva :som: viva :sland: viva :dj: viva somali_galbeed (ogadenia), viva NFD.
I like it :up: I think once Somaliland is recognized there's nothing wrong with setting up a system like the EU for Somaliland/Somalia and Djibouti where all Somali speaking population are welcomed and treated equal .. :dj: :som: :sland: :up:
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Somaliweyn has been hijacked the same way somalinimo has been. Perhabs there is nobody that can invest in greater pan somali politics at this time to improve relations for future generations but at least awareness is required to prevent such a project from being hijacked by fraudesters and hypocrites who will use it to support their short term objectives.

For instance :som: , Somalinimo, Somaliweyn all have been hijacked and used against Somaliland only to prevent it's independence. There are people who are willing to exploit any opportunity if the majority lack the understanding of the real meaning behind flags, Nationalism, Somali owned lands. These things are somali shared assets and belong to all somalis.

Example: If the anti-somaliland diaspora took control of Berbera port and collected all taxes from this port in somaliland. Then the revenue from this port they used it to begin a negative campaign against somaliland independence. Would the people of somaliland threat Berbera like a cancer and refuse to be asociated with it?

:som: This flag is the property of any somali from the 5 states.

Somalinimo: This is the inheritance of any somali regardless of where s/he is born.

Somaliweyn: This is a continueous stretch of land shared between all somalis.

Islamnimo: Shared by all somalis


If you let others hijack your property they will continue to use the proceeds only to attack you with it. Even though it is a lesser cause it is worth investing the small amount of time required to prevent any asset you have control of to become misused by those that will use your own assets against you.

I fully understand why the average somalilander hates all those things that once belong to him/her the reason is because they have been hijacked and these hijackers will not stop hijacking your property till they leave you nothing. It this continues soon somalilanders will be left feeling they are not even african! somali language, the music, the history, the culture, ancient traditions... etc

Psychological warefare: The most stable shape known to man is a triangle, ancient civilisations knew it, the egyptians based their pyramids on this shape. The concept of 3 axis or 3 dimension as in X,Y,Z is the basis of all navigation and ploting maps. The concept of trinity is found where ever you look in nature and the universe. Atomic structure is based on the princible of trinity electrons, neutrons and protons. Now a psychological warrior has attacked somaliland's structure on the basis of the traingle comprising of the locations hargeisa, berbera and burco which form the solid core of isaaq occupied territory. This psychological warrior wishes to make somalilanders hate that which gives them their strength so the negative campaign against the Triangle begins. What is the response of the somalilanders? they play right into the hands of this psyche warrior. 1. he makes somalilanders think their state is limited to the traingle 2. he makes all non isaaqs think the state is the property of only those in the triangle 3. He makes slanders begin to shed their strength so as to preserve their diversity... they begin to believe their strength is their weakness I am sure this warrior would like to create tension between the Habar trinity and will invest a lot of effort to create or support policy change to weaken the habar trinity which forms the stabilising triangle that holds the state together.

You are under attack, sorry to be an alarmist but you have survived by the miracle of allah for 20years.
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The only thing they'll be debating is wheather the president will go on gunter bischof raw or protected

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union wrote:The only thing they'll be debating is wheather the president will go on gunter bischof raw or protected

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You are amazingly disturbed beyond any measure of insanity, there is no hope for you. You suffer from SomalilandPhopia to an nTH factor. Your every day is spent propagating online ill comments on a people who would not piss on you if that was the only cure for your mental handicap.

Do me one favour dissasociate yourself from Unionism of somalis. You are the anti-union and your likes are many. For all we know you are a tigre or amhaaro intent on causing hatred between somalis, you will fail and i will personally piss on your grave one day.
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Don't call me anti-unionism, you stateless Oromo dumbfuck. The very idea of somaliland is a slap in the face to everything somalinimo stands for. They are the hateful ones, trying vainly to disassociate from Somalia while handing over Somalis to the Ethiopian enemy and gobbling up the land of loyal somali citizens to enlarge their damned, unrecognized drought stricken "country". If the iddors want to separate, good f-king riddance- but they better stay in the triangle of faggotry and not try to encroach on the land of the blue. :som: :up: :up:
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Your existence is a slap on the face of nature. Go and kill yourself you cuqdad-filled, inbred boon, your likes aren't wanted around here :arrow: .
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