Shiaism is actually an insult to Ahlu-bayt and the nabi saws

[melo]

Kukri: Even if we assume the Iranians are fighting the WEST, the fact that they believe what they believe, should be good enough of a reason for us to diassociate ourselves from them. How can you defend someone who calls your own mother, Caaisha filthy words? How can you defend someone who insults the men who spent their whole lives fighting for Islaam, and who without them, Islaam would be lost? How can you defend someone who says the Quran is tampered with? How can you defend someone who believes that Human beings have special powers? Like seriously. Just on a pure belief system, how can you defend this? How can you forget this?

[melo]

Go serve Obama, like your wahabi imam Abdullah does:





this gaal kills thousands of muslims around the world, yet he is rewarded by the ''protector of the two holy cities''.

Hutu King, wallahi cadiim, if you can debunk what i wrote in the original forum i will leave this post. You claim Shiicas love ahlu-bayt. Well debunk what i said. Debunk that they aren't in fact lovers of ahlu-bayt, and that they actually insult them by lying.

[melo]

melo thanks for the input brother,we need to have more knowledge in order not to be misled
It's true wahaabism is a sunni school,the problem comes when it's presented as the only way

I do agree with that. I find the salafi movements puritanical ways sometimes a bit overwhelming. Some of them are too extreme in their laa madhabiyya way. There needs to be a reconcialation between all the sunni groups, whether they be wahabi, ikhwaani, sufi, ashari, deobandi etc for the sake of the ummah.

[Kukri]

There you go again using jihad money to excuse and justify all the other crimes saudis are guilty of. Who had a hand in the hanging of Sadam hussein? Whatever Iran did to get back at Iraq when the opportunity presented itself, they done it themselves, unlike the Saudis who provide bases for the west by sanctioning the slaughter of muslims .

Yes Iran may have killed sunnis but they done it in wars between sunnis and Shi'a. Saddam have bombed Israel but where is he today? Did the illegal war he waged in Iran with the say so of the west helped him from the gallow?

Say what you will about Iran and the Shia but today they aRE the only muslims with the balls to give the finger to the west and also do more for palestinians than any other so called sunni nations.

The majority of suni countries in the middle east are run by zionist sympathisers. they wear the Muslim card but they get into bed with the west and the enemy of Islam and the sooner they are eradicated the better for the world and the Ummah.

The only good arab is a arab mounted by an american.

[ToughGong]

melo don't you find this pic problematic though.I mean you say Hizbullah killed thousands of muslims and Iran has done so too

[melo]

There you go again using jihad money to excuse and justify all the other crimes saudis are guilty of. Who had a hand in the hanging of Sadam hussein? Whatever Iran did to get back at Iraq when the opportunity presented itself, they done it themselves, unlike the Saudis who provide bases for the west by sanctioning the slaughter of muslim

s .

Uh, the last part is going off on a tangent, but i am not justifying their crimes. I am just stating, that when it comes to fighting the kaafirs across the world, Sacuudis have undoubtedly done more than Iraan. This is a fact which even the Americans in congress admit.

Yes Iraq may have killed sunnis but they done it in wars between sunnis and Shi'a. Saddam have bombed Israel but where is he today? Did the illegal war he waged in Iran with the say so of the west helped him from the gallow?

What war? The Americans ovethrew Saddam, and then shiicas ruthlessly massacred the sunnis. This is a fact. Go google it.

Say what you will about Iran and the Shia but today they aRE the only muslims with the balls to give the finger to the west and also do more for palestinians than any other so called sunni nations.

And like i said, this resistance is simply hadal. In reality, they are not doing much, which is why the Americans and Israel haven't bombed them yet. They aren't doing more than the Saudis are. Go to the lands of Jihaad today and ask them where they get their money from. The number one answer is SACUUDI, NOT IRAAN. That isn't hadal, that is action.

Iraan have killed more sunnis than kaafirs. Again google this. See their treatment of the sunnis in Iraan. See Hezbollahs murder of sunnis in 1982.

The majority of suni countries in the middle east are run by zionist sympathisers. they wear the Muslim card but they get into bed with the west and the enemy of Islam and the sooner they are eradicated the better for the world and the Ummah.

I do agree that they are focked in the head, but lets not then conclude that Iraan is any better. Iran's resistance is fake as i said.

[melo]

melo don't you find this pic problematic though.I mean you say Hizbullah killed thousands of muslims and Iran has done so too

What i am arguing is that all of these Muslim countries, including Iraan are focked up. They are all con artists. But if people are going to start defending Iraan and call out Saudi, i'll just have to insert the facts here.

Shiicas 95% of the time help Shiicas at the expense of sunnis. Same with sunnis. The difference being is that Sunnism is the truth, while shiicism is a false religion.

[Kukri]

Kukri: Even if we assume the Iranians are fighting the WEST, the fact that they believe what they believe, should be good enough of a reason for us to diassociate ourselves from them. How can you defend someone who calls your own mother, Caaisha filthy words? How can you defend someone who insults the men who spent their whole lives fighting for Islaam, and who without them, Islaam would be lost? How can you defend someone who says the Quran is tampered with? How can you defend someone who believes that Human beings have special powers? Like seriously. Just on a pure belief system, how can you defend this? How can you forget this?

Thats another cheep tactic to divide fellow muslims while playing into the hands of the enemies of Islam. I'll take a shia anyday over any Arab sunni. Whatever they are doing wrong in regards to the diin thats between them and their creator.

pointing the finger at Iran doesnt deflect the real issue and problems the ummah face because of saudi zionist masquerading as muslims.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Melo, i dont allow ideology differences to incite hatred against my brethren shias eventhough iam not shia but muslim who follows quran, sunnah and loves aala Muhammad pbuh. Whats wrong with loving Aala Bayt? Dont you recite in every prayer: Allahuma salli alaa Muhammad wa Aali Muhammad. Yes, amongst shias there are subsects who may not like other members of ahlulbayt. That is their responsibility.

Differences in thinking should not be a problem for muslims to work with other muslim sects like shias against our common enemies such as the crusaders and the zionist jews.

[melo]

I used to believe in the Iraan fairy tale until i read deeper into this issue. Their propaganda has fooled a lot it seems. Do read though and maybe some of you guys will see their ugly intentions.

Iraan is setting itself up to be the leader of the islamic ummah. They want to replace Sacuudis. They are using their politics to get their aqeedah acceptance. They are using taqiyya like "we are the same, shiicas and sunnis" to con Sunnis. But if you know your history, you know these people are con artists. You can see it today if you ponder deeply

[Kukri]

I used to believe in the Iraan fairy tale until i read deeper into this issue. Their propaganda has fooled a lot it seems. Do read though and maybe some of you guys will see their ugly intentions.

Iraan is setting itself up to be the leader of the islamic ummah. They want to replace Sacuudis. They are using their politics to get their aqeedah acceptance. They are using taqiyya like "we are the same, shiicas and sunnis" to con Sunnis. But if you know your history, you know these people are con artists. You can see it today if you ponder deeply

That will be a blessing in disguise

I rather see Ahmadinajad in the sit of that queen of saudi arabia.

I rather have shia guarding the kaba than a saudi cross-dresser.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

When shia muslims say '' we are the same'' it means we both believes in Allah swt, the angels, the prophets, last day and that Muhammad pbuh is the last messenger/prophet of Allah swt.

Melo, i prefer iranians above saudis.
Atleast with iranians the muslim ummah will be less slaves of the west and show more bravery in battle unlike the saudi fags.

[melo]

Kukri: Even if we assume the Iranians are fighting the WEST, the fact that they believe what they believe, should be good enough of a reason for us to diassociate ourselves from them. How can you defend someone who calls your own mother, Caaisha filthy words? How can you defend someone who insults the men who spent their whole lives fighting for Islaam, and who without them, Islaam would be lost? How can you defend someone who says the Quran is tampered with? How can you defend someone who believes that Human beings have special powers? Like seriously. Just on a pure belief system, how can you defend this? How can you forget this?

Thats another cheep tactic to divide fellow muslims while playing into the hands of the enemies of Islam. I'll take a shia anyday over any Arab sunni. Whatever they are doing wrong in regards to the diin thats between them and their creator.

pointing the finger at Iran doesnt deflect the real issue and problems the ummah face because of saudi zionist masquerading as muslims.

Cheap tactic? Bismillah. How can someone who believes in such things be on your side? How can you sit there and defend them? Don't you have Izza? The shiica would never accept you critiquing even 1 of their imaams, yet you accept them making aspersions upon the great figures of the Islaam, the quraan and the nabi?

Melo, i dont allow ideology differences to incite hatred against my brethren shias eventhough iam not shia but muslim who follows quran, sunnah and loves aala Muhammad pbuh. Whats wrong with loving Aala Bayt? Dont you recite in every prayer: Allahuma salli alaa Muhammad wa Aali Muhammad. Yes, amongst shias there are subsects who may not like other members of ahlulbayt. That is their responsibility.

Differences in thinking should not be a problem for muslims to work with other muslim sects like shias against our common enemies such as the crusaders and the zionist jews

Let me put this in Bold for you, so you can't escape it

READ MY OP. I CLEARLY STATED THAT SHIICAS ARE LYING WHEN THEY LOVE AHLU BAYT. LYING UPON AHLY BAYT AND IMPLYING THEY ARE COWARDS IS NOT LOVE. THAT IS HATRED.

Furthemore, if you read history, the Shiicas at every turn in history hurt the sunnis when they could. Go read the tartar invasion and you will see. See what salaxuddin did to them when he went around conquering places. See the qaraamita and what they did. See the hasashins. Shiicas arent our friends, they are in fact the most dangeous enemy simply because they seem to be muslim. The enemy inside is infintly more dangerous than the outside enemy

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

If shias always wanted to kill all sunnis then how come there are still sunnis in iraq, iraq? The way i see is that sunnis always discriminated against shias without just. Look at Bahrain, Yemen, Saudi arabia and Pre-war Iraq.

Only servants of usa(this group called ''Jundullah'', infact jundushaytan)are punished.
The other good citizens of Iran have nothing to fear for their lives as long they are no threat to the islamic govt.

[melo]

I used to believe in the Iraan fairy tale until i read deeper into this issue. Their propaganda has fooled a lot it seems. Do read though and maybe some of you guys will see their ugly intentions.

Iraan is setting itself up to be the leader of the islamic ummah. They want to replace Sacuudis. They are using their politics to get their aqeedah acceptance. They are using taqiyya like "we are the same, shiicas and sunnis" to con Sunnis. But if you know your history, you know these people are con artists. You can see it today if you ponder deeply

That will be a blessing in disguise

I rather see Ahmadinajad in the sit of that queen of saudi arabia.

I rather have shia guarding the kaba than a saudi cross-dresser.

This is because you don't understand Islaam at all. If you did, you would know that the concept of Imaamah and tahrif are apostacy of the diin. If you knew your history, you would know what the imaams of our tradition wrote about these ideas. But you don't, so I'll stop responding to you. Clearly you don't understand the implications of Shiica belief.

When shia muslims say '' we are the same'' it means we both believes in Allah swt, the angels, the prophets, last day and that Muhammad pbuh is the last messenger/prophet of Allah swt.

Melo, i prefer iranians above saudis.
Atleast with iranians the muslim ummah will be less slaves of the west and show more bravery in battle unlike the saudi fags.

Allah SWT says the Quran is complete. He will protect it.
Shiicas say the Quran is tampered with, and that imaam mahdi has the real quran

Allah Never mentions Imaamah
Shiicas say Imaamah is a pillar of faith

They in fact place doubts on Allah SWT


The Qaadinais believe in the 5 pillars of the diin. Yet no one calls for them to be allied with us.