Kampala Accord infringes on Somalia’s sovereignty.....

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Re: Kampala Accord infringes on Somalia’s sovereignty.....

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James Dahl wrote:The agreement basically says that IGAD and the donor countries will run the TFG directly, without a parliament or president.

If anyone needed evidence that the TFG is a Vichy government, this is it.
What can we somali nationalists do to liberate ourself from this colonism?

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If Al Shabaab wasn't so extreme, I really think they would be a better option if this agreement is ever implemented in Somalia. It is better to have national dignity and control over your future then to be disgraced with a former African rebel leader as the overlord of Somalia with the support of the corrupt and wastrel United Nations.

The more this unfolds, the more the initial reaction of the Somali people, particularly the people of Mogadishu, should be appreciated. They effectively put up the first, and maybe even the most important, obstacle in front of this travesty planned in Kampala.
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James Dahl wrote:The agreement basically says that IGAD and the donor countries will run the TFG directly, without a parliament or president.

If anyone needed evidence that the TFG is a Vichy government, this is it.
TFG is just a name, its all about the leaders. We Somalis are happy to have Farmaajo. A leader that fights for his nation. You can call TFG whatever u want, the important bit are the leaders. Now that the people have woken up, they won't allow their national hero 'Farmaajo' to be sidelined, and Farmaajo himself won't allow his country to be colonised again under this Kampala Accord.
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Voltage wrote:If Al Shabaab wasn't so extreme, I really think they would be a better option if this agreement is ever implemented in Somalia. It is better to have national dignity and control over your future then to be disgraced with a former African rebel leader as the overlord of Somalia with the support of the corrupt and wastrel United Nations.

The more this unfolds, the more the initial reaction with of the Somali people, particularly the people of Mogadishu, should be appreciate. They effective put up the first obstacle in front of this travesty planned in Kampala.
The somalis could create a modern nationalist secular rebel group to take Shababs place and liberate Somalia from the Ugandian colonism?
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Ximan, it really isn't just about Farmaajo. The situation is greater than that, I don't know why you are particularly fixated on a single individual in every post.

Jolie, not necessarily secular but certainly not as extreme as Al Shabaab.
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XimanJaale wrote:
James Dahl wrote:The agreement basically says that IGAD and the donor countries will run the TFG directly, without a parliament or president.

If anyone needed evidence that the TFG is a Vichy government, this is it.
TFG is just a name, its all about the leaders. We Somalis are happy to have Farmaajo. A leader that fights for his nation. You can call TFG whatever u want, the important bit are the leaders. Now that the people have woken up, they won't allow their national hero 'Farmaajo' to be sidelined, and Farmaajo himself won't allow his country to be colonised again under this Kampala Accord.
I don't think its the name only... Abdikasim the first TFG president and his PM was both nationalists like Farmajoo, but they discovered that Etiophia had colonized Somalia..... TFG was destroyed by etiophian puppets.....
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Jolie, ur obession of creating a rebel group needs stop. Think about strengthing the Somali National Army. We don't need rebel groups, we already have Ahlu Sunna. Also AMISOM won't leave until we have strong national army.
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Voltage wrote:Ximan, it really isn't just about Farmaajo. The situation is greater than that, I don't know why you are particularly fixated on a single individual in every post.

Jolie, not necessarily secular but certainly not as extreme as Al Shabaab.
what? we have tried the sufi islamist group which turned out to be warlords/tribalists/ etiophian puppets.....
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Voltage wrote:Ximan, it really isn't just about Farmaajo. The situation is greater than that, I don't know why you are particularly fixated on a single individual in every post.
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Voltage wrote:Ximan, it really isn't just about Farmaajo. The situation is greater than that, I don't know why you are particularly fixated on a single individual in every post.

Jolie, not necessarily secular but certainly not as extreme as Al Shabaab.
Don't worry I know everything. I'm mentioning Farmaajo because he is the first leader to understand the new colonisation. Without hoogaan fiican we will not win. Its all about leadership that Somalia lacks.
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XimanJaale wrote:Jolie, ur obession of creating a rebel group needs stop. Think about strengthing the Somali National Army. We don't need rebel groups, we already have Ahlu Sunna. Also AMISOM won't leave until we have strong national army.
Its the only way to liberation! Amison don't want a strong stable somali government!
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JolieFille wrote:
XimanJaale wrote:Jolie, ur obession of creating a rebel group needs stop. Think about strengthing the Somali National Army. We don't need rebel groups, we already have Ahlu Sunna. Also AMISOM won't leave until we have strong national army.
Its the only way to liberation! Amison don't want a strong stable somali government!
:lol: Its not AMISOM that doesn't want a strong national army but the international community. AMISOM waa masaakiin.
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XimanJaale wrote:
JolieFille wrote:
XimanJaale wrote:Jolie, ur obession of creating a rebel group needs stop. Think about strengthing the Somali National Army. We don't need rebel groups, we already have Ahlu Sunna. Also AMISOM won't leave until we have strong national army.
Its the only way to liberation! Amison don't want a strong stable somali government!
:lol: Its not AMISOM that doesn't want a strong national army but the international community. AMISOM waa masaakiin.
Masaakiin? they have killed more than 4000 somalis in the last 2 years.... if Amisom is the tool of Somalias enemies they have to be destroyed....
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XimanJaale wrote: Don't worry I know everything. I'm mentioning Farmaajo because he is the first leader to understand the new colonisation. Without hoogaan fiican we will not win. Its all about leadership that Somalia lacks.
Farmaajo himself said on the BBC that people didn't react particularly because of him but because of the trials of the last 20 years and they are fed up. Why don't you proof all of us wrong and show us this isn't just about nin jeclaysi on your part but you are thinking about the general good.

Sometimes it seems like Twisted Logic and Abdiwahab are showing way more nationalism then you do.
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Re: Kampala Accord infringes on Somalia’s sovereignty.....

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AMISOM are simply here cause of our fault, do not blame AMISOM but blame all these leaders that committed coruption, that didn't discipline the Somali National army, that didn't motivate and boost the soldiers morale, blame the weak and self intrest leaders. Sister, we are to be blamed and we can fix ourselves. We need a good LEADER and I guees the Somalis believe that Farmaajo baa uu so baxay. We can only win if we have GOOD leaders. Do not blame international community, they are just using us because of we made them use us.
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