Those who lived/live in Saudi Arabia - Fact or Fiction

[Enlightened~Sista]

Nabeela was your cousin's degree anything to do with Islamic Studies because I know they don't deny access or scholarships to those wanting to further their Islamic education.

[djibsomali]

if you want to study salafism then they will let you into those school that run salafism curriculium

however normal university to study: Maths, medical, accounting, computer science is a no for somalis

[*Nobleman*]

Fact or Fiction:


1. Women aren't allowed to drive- Fact, few still do though ( less accidents )
2. No women on TV- bullshid
3. If you are seen without hijaab/niqaab random men in the street can beat you up- bullshid
4. Women can't enter the country without muxrum- nah plenty of nurses, teachers etc work there alone
5. Women can't travel within or outside the country without a muxrum- Fiction
6. Domestic abuse is accepted- come on now, you might as well get a job writing for the daily mail
7. Women are not allowed to practise certain professions- depends, a female cannot be an imam for example.
8. Children of people from other countries are not allowed to study in Uni- money talks, you got the money you can study.





See above

[*Nobleman*]

Horta why is it every saudi or niqab topic you have the same characters spewing the same rubbish. I guarantee if I make a topic about saudi women wearing niqabs the first 2 replies will be ES and dibjirsomali . Some next level anti arab cuqdad. Focus your energy on improving somalia and discriminate all you want

[OliveOil]

My closest friend's older cousin who moved from T-dot is a high school teacher in Saudia Arabia...she has been teaching for the past couple of years now. IDK if there r men in her classes though




But I do know one thing; that I strongly dislike Saudia Arabia....my mom's older sister lived there and recently moved to Syria Alhamdulilah

[Armstrong]

BlackValvet & Enlightened I have an idea for you two.

I own a company that makes lollipop and this is not a joke. We are looking for a good looking somali woman who can advertise our lollipop. We will put you on every billboard in every street in London with you smiling and a lollipop in your precious mouth. There will also be some T.V. and newspaper ads of you. You will earn lots of money I can make you a celebrity overnight f*ck al-Saudia we say women power what do you say?

[ciyaal_warta]

lemmi mark them one by one..since i know saudi arabia and i lived with saudis and we often debate about these things

Fact or Fiction:


1. Women aren't allowed to drive (FACT)
2. No women on TV (Fiction coz they are hijabi women that was giving interview the other day )
3. If you are seen without hijaab/niqaab random men in the street can beat you up (Fiction coz there is a police called HAY'AH that will arrest u )
4. Women can't enter the country without muxrum (FACT and its islamic rule )
5. Women can't travel within or outside the country without a muxrum (FACT)
6. Domestic abuse is accepted (Fiction )
7. Women are not allowed to practise certain professions (FACT)
8. Children of people from other countries are not allowed to study in Uni (Fiction coz i have a somali friend whos studyin University King Abdulaziiz)

[Mondey]

Fact or Fiction:


1. Women aren't allowed to drive- True
2. No women on TV- False
3. If you are seen without hijaab/niqaab random men in the street can beat you up- True in some parts of the country like northern and southern regions women cannot go without niqaab, in other parts only hijab is compulsory.. only Western women (Europe/US ) can go out with neither niqab/hijab and can even drive and no one can say shidh to them.
4. Women can't enter the country without muxrum- False now days saudi women can even travel abroad with no muhram.
5. Women can't travel within or outside the country without a muxrum- same as above
6. Domestic abuse is accepted- Very True
7. Women are not allowed to practise certain professions- True she can only practice very limited professions.
8. Children of people from other countries are not allowed to study in Uni- True you can study from 1st grade to 12th grade for free but no college. only about 0.01 % of all foreign kids can go to uni.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

Horta I don't know why some somalis have a disturbing hatred for Saudi Arabia (and arabs in general), what have they ever done to you guys.

As for this list, first things first yes woman are not allowed to drive and I'm yet to see one; woman are on tv and without hijab sometimes also; woman can be without niqab but not hijab; muslim woman cannot enter the country without a maxram but I have seen non muslim who are; woman can travel within the country without maxram but obviously it is dangerous at night - also how else do somali woman who live there go to buy food and necessities ; who knows what goes on within somebody's house same as in somalia and the west; woman can work i.e. nurse a man cannot deliver a baby so a woman does it; this one is the biggest lie I have seen plenty of somali guys who studied in uni there.

When I went hajj few years ago, in Makkah I saw three somali boys from back home were given a free scholarship to study islamic studies in Makkah university (what a priviledge) free of charge all expenses paid for i.e. ticket, accomodation and spending money plus being taught in the blessed city - what more can you want. Also, in Madinah I saw a similar thing I saw a somali man who studies in Madinah university also scholarship. Basically saudi offers free scholarships to muslim males in countries which are not situated in the Gulf i.e. third world countries like somalia or western countries like UK. Masha'allah may allah protect saudi arabia

[Enlightened~Sista]

In the English channel there are female presenters but most, if not all are Non Saudi Muslims from the expatriate Indian/Pakistani/Arab communities. The Arabic one never allowed female presenters but I'm not sure if that has changed.

Loool@ Imam as an example of profession denied to Saudi women. They cannot do many jobs because they can't work alongside men. Now let's take a better example, i.e Saudi women lawyers can't argue cases in the courtroom. They are planning to change that apparently, but I'm guessing they won't be in the same room as men. Also if they set up a business, they have to get signature from their Mahrems. They can only work in their businesses if its serving women only, but if its caters for the general public they'll have to hire someone else to run it for them.


Sports is not allowed in girls schools whether primary or secondary.


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"Saudiarabia is a deeply reactionary country.  Women are banned from voting and must get 'written permission from a male relative – even an underage son – to work, travel, seek treatment or study'.--
Source : http://www.salmayaqoob.com/2011/06/soli ... ivers.html

[Enlightened~Sista]

Cumar no one denied that Saudi Arabia gives scholarships to poor Somalis to study ISLAMIC STUDIES!

[ciyaal_warta]

Cumar no one denied that Saudi Arabia gives scholarships to poor Somalis to study ISLAMIC STUDIES!

i know some ciyaal casiir that are doing engineering and other majors..am not saying they its all open but if u know ur way in u can get anything

[Cumar-Labasuul]

esis, are you against the islamic ruling regarding mahram

[DisplacedDiraac]

1. Women aren't allowed to drive... I was watching a show were some woman was claiming to be the first female driver..
2. No women on TV... Ive watched alot of Saudi Tv and I've seen plenty of women on their shows.. Even female presenters without hijaab!
3. If you are seen without hijaab/niqaab random men in the street can beat you up... Lol.. Comeon now..
4. Women can't enter the country without muxrum... That's BS.. My cousin *who moved from the UK* works there and she lives with a group of girls with no Mahram!
5. Women can't travel within or outside the country without a muxrum... Again my cousin travels within and outside the country and she doesn't have a Mahram
6. Domestic abuse is accepted... Again.. Comeon you cant be serious!
7. Women are not allowed to practise certain professions... Same in alot of countries
8. Children of people from other countries are not allowed to study in Uni... Again I have aloads of relatives who study there..

[udun]

I am not sure about Saudi Arabia but I personally know many Somali guys and girls from UAE that lived there all their lives, finished high school there and weren't allowed to go to uni in the Emirates. (That's back 2000 - 2002; don't know if it's still the same or not).

A lot of them were in Baghdad to do uni when I was there before this last war. No wonder why many Somalis can't stand Arabs!

If the person has conmnection in those top guys in the government, they can get enrol into the university; however, per official policy, no expatriates are allowed to study in UAE. I have cousins who are going to universities in Sudan because of that rule. The lack of a strong Somali government that can make arrangements with the Gulf countries is also part of the problem.

Can you Somalis imagine universities are free for anyone from any of the Arab league countries in Syria and these rich Gulf Arab countries are now allowing us?