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Voltage,

Really amazing points you made there. Kudos!

It surprises me both union and Paidmonk are two individuals who have personally experienced drought and famine, not to mention war and who would have certainly witnessed suffering and tragedy similar to the ones of the people they are poking fun had it not been the humanitarian assistance provided by Aid Agencies that fed them, sheltered them and ultimately sent them to the West enabling them to make the gross hubristic and arrogant statements being displayed on this thread.

They are both young and bright kids and I hope they see the light.

Who is poking fun? Go find the line.

There's two ways to go about life - crying like you and Voltage or dissecting situations to find solutions. Then again, a Yalaxoow-supporter and another kid who worships a bantu warlord are not really a good measurement for intelligence.

Adding: Perhaps you two are right - why do I even care [even though I did my part] if folk with your guys' warlord mentality are just going to squander the lives of these struggling people.

FYI, my family and I never went through a famine, my family always had irrigation pipes that drew water from the river in case it didn't rain - we brought our smart Majerteen culture to Jamaame - perhaps you can learn a lesson from that. And when the war came we took a small charter plane to Nairobi like civilized people. Take note, we mastered the earth as a result of forward evolution and that's what I preach.

D-Runner wrote: Well, don't we all, the funny think is right after we contribute to the box in the Masjid, most of us Somalis are known to spit the same venom about clan x at home, in our tribes private meeting and in our local "marfish." And the cycle keeps on repeating, the only difference is we grow bored with clan x and pickup a different clan x to spit venom towards.

Indeed, naclaa Somali ku taal!

As for voltage's crocodile tears, please spare it for those of us who haven't come across your other nickname, DawladSade.

Monk,

I don't know about you but all I can hear from Voltage and Rovingmadass is "Ee-Aw, Ee-Aw" like one of those annoying donkey's that are known to disrupt people in their sleep back in Somalia.

It is really sickening to see them tell the masses here how they all of the sudden feel powerlessness, despite all the venom they have manage to spit over the years; only fake people are known to do this and feel sympathy toward those they've already manage to harm later.

Yes, even words fuel the already messed up situation in Somalia. But then again this is expected from such lowlifes. Indeed, they will sing the same "Ee-Aw, Ee-Aw" even long after the drought stricken Somalis they now seem to be shedding crocodile tears for struggle passes.

Ilaah ha'ugargaaro.

But like some people said this people need to learn how to farm and make use of the rivers we have.

Ok Paidmonk. The drought has absolutely nothing to do with Puntland, your clan the Majeerteen are the most intelligent and forward moving players on earth invented the irrigation system and don't understand what drought means, your family were arguably one of the wealthiest Somali families who happened to hop on a private jet from a dusty Somali village to a 7-bedroom mansion in the United States.

Say all of that was true...what does that have to do with this unfortunate Somali lady that you so vehemently wish to discard her to a fate she did not choose?

Antonio Guterres, the head of UNHCR who visited Dadaab on Sunday, appealed to the world to supply the "massive support" needed by thousands of refugees showing up at this camp every week. More than 380,000 refugees now live there.

In Dadaab, Guterres spoke with a Somalia mother who lost three of her children during a 35-day walk to reach the camp. Guterres said Dadaab holds "the poorest of the poor and the most vulnerable of the vulnerable."

"I became a bit insane after I lost them," said the mother, Muslima Aden. "I lost them in different times on my way."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... 0ca05acfe8

Roving, I have no idea where you got that fictional story from.

Voltage, What is your opinion? Should the international community undertake a massive aid effort and then just leave, or continue feeding Somalis till they figure out how to feed/manage themselves.

Regardless of the course of their situation,whether,(like some are saying) it's their own fault
Or it's because of circumstances beyond their control.You can't help but feel for them when you see the pictures on TV and hear thier individual stories.Specialy when women and children are involved.

There is immediate solution and long-term solution. Tackle the present famine and obviously long-term solution should include completely liquidating Al Shabaab and restoring the Somali state.

seemeyer wrote:Regardless of the course of their situation,whether,(like some are saying) it's their own fault
Or it's because of circumstances beYond their control.You can't help but feel for them when you see the pictures on TV and hear thier individual stories.Specialy where women and children are involved.

This is exactly the point. I get where Union is coming from which is purely economic perspective, but the lack of empathy from the two others I know is only coming from one place.

Only Somalis will find a qabil angle in famine and people on the bring of death.

Voltage wrote:

seemeyer wrote:Regardless of the course of their situation,whether,(like some are saying) it's their own fault
Or it's because of circumstances beYond their control.You can't help but feel for them when you see the pictures on TV and hear thier individual stories.Specialy where women and children are involved.

This is exactly the point. I get where Union is coming from which is purely economic perspective, but the lack of empathy from the two others I know is only coming from one place.

Voltage,

The thing is unlike seemeyer's kin, my kin comes in contact with your folk in Kismaayo... and the burden they now shoulder after being evicted from their home by your beloved warlord is too great to bear.

If you really have any sympathy towards them now that their also caught in this depressing drought, let me just give you a hint toward this "long-term solution" you seem to be after in this thread; shot Barre Hiiraale right in the f-king face!

These guys believe that just because they don't give a fock about the suffering people, suffering of the babies dying as we speak in their comfortable homes with full stomaches that the rest of us are inherently evil just like them. Just because your narrow asses were lucky enough to come to the west away from poverty, violence and drought does not make you any better or more intelligent then our people who couldn't escape back home. You guys keep talking about "farming" like it's a skill easy as 1-2-3 with hand me down tools, if it's so easy why don't you fools go back and teach them? Islaan fadhida lag'din la fududaa couldn't describe you careless twats any better.

It couldn't have come at a worse time. The last major drought of a similar magnitude was in the 70s when we had a government. I believe we are all morally obligated to help in whatever way we can. Regardless of region or clan, this is a catastrophe and one that does not discriminate. Our imaam talked about it on Friday and we all signed up to contribute according to our means. I saw a couple of guys pledging to pay $5k. Sh. Umal has set-up a charity that the funds will be forwarded to. The drought has affected as far deep in as Wajir and even Garissa, it covers thousands of square miles in Ethiopia, Somlia and Kenya. Acting is more important than discussing. Pitch in whatever you can and pray for them.