Should sharia law be fully implemented in Somalia?

[Executive]

Executive since your a supporter of Sharia law, does beheading and cutting of arms include in your view? Im just asking.

Since you claim to be a muslim, do you believe in the verses of the Quran? I am just asking.

[tightrope]

Coeus, the Shariah Law cannot be implemented in Somalia or in the entire Somali Peninsula. The question isn't really, can the Shariah Law be implemented in Somalia, but rather, it's "Who can implement the Shariah Law in Somalia?". As you know, majority, if not all of Somalis have committed different sorts of crimes, thru the name of Islam, thru the name of Tribalism, thru the name of whatever you can think of.

How could the man who raped, stole, killed innocents be able to speak in the name of God and implement the Shariah Law? How could a clan that has committed such a heinous crimes, stand up in public and support the implementation of the Shariah Law, when their elders have taken part of genocide, rape, and complete destruction of society?

The Shariah Law can only be implemented by men who have not committed crimes, and apparently, I don't see any Somali, whether clan-leader, Religious Scholar, Religious Leader, Civilian and so forth who hasn't committed crimes or sins. As for crimes or sins, what I mean is that, for instance, those in the Diaspora have willingly take part of flaming up any wrongdoing their clan has done to another. They send money to support whomever they're supporting in committing crimes against others. They are mentally and emotionally, and for the most parts physically taking part of breaking the Rules and Regulations of ALLAH, the rules and regulations of Humanity.

So, I conclude that the Shariah Law cannot be implemented in Somalia, until the Somali people go thru cleansing. They have to bring justice to every single Somali, young or old who has committed crimes against ALLAH, against Humanity and against his fellow Muslim brothers and sisters.

[Coeus]

Executive since your a supporter of Sharia law, does beheading and cutting of arms include in your view? Im just asking.

Since you claim to be a muslim, do you believe in the verses of the Quran? I am just asking.

Saaxib do not answer a question with a question.

[Coeus]

It's already being practiced.....
but whenever someone states that sharia law is going to be implemented anywhere people run around like headless chickens.

Saxiib can you clarify your answer a little bit more?

Ma waxaad ka mid tahay dadka rumaysan inay soomaalidu yihiin jaahiliin diintu dhawaan soo gaadhay?
I don't know about you but the last time I checked Somalia was like 99% Sunni Muslim and the fact that some Somalis are talking about implementing sharia law in Somalia today is an insult, what kind of f-king law do you think a country that's 99% Sunni Muslim practices.
either you believe Somalis are retarded or Somalis are new converts.
btw what do you have against Sufis, Sufis are not the ones causing problems in Somalia today; Sufis have done far less damage to Somalis than the bearded thugs you support.

saaxib maybe you got me wrong. Im not against sufiis, but do you think they will not be judged by salafis?

Also if all somalis practice islam, what should be the governing system.

[Coeus]

I suggest that, we, the Somali people go thru an "Age of Enlightenment" and age where, we set aside emotional attachments to our loved ones who have committed crimes against Humanity. We have to go thru Physical Purification, before we can go thru Spiritual Purification. That's the only way we can go towards the direction of implementing the Shariah Law.


A Thief cuts off the hands of an 18 year old accused of stealing, without bring forth 4 witnesses. First, the Thief is fulfilling the judgment, which is an oxymoron. Secondly, there is no substantial evidence, such as bringing the 4 witnesses we were told to do so by ALLAH in the Nobel Quran.

What kind of Islam is that, let alone Shariah Law?

Brilliant post. Irony also shows that somalia was most prosperous when the state
was separetaed from religion.

[Executive]

Executive since your a supporter of Sharia law, does beheading and cutting of arms include in your view? Im just asking.

Since you claim to be a muslim, do you believe in the verses of the Quran? I am just asking.

Saaxib do not answer a question with a question.

Stop asking stupid questions markas. I believe in capital punishment for certain crimes, cutting off hands is written in the quran and its a potential punishment for a thieve. But if you look into the conditions and criteria around that particular punishment you will see that the majority of theft cases cutting of hands wouldn't be necessary.

[Knight of Wisdom]

Brilliant post. Irony also shows that somalia was most prosperous when the state
was separetaed from religion.

Somalia was NEVER ruled under the Shariah. Pre-Colonialism, the Somalis didn't had a legitimate Central Government. They were ruled under Clan-Chiefs, such as Sultan, Boqor, Garaad, Ugaas, Emir and so forth. During Colonialism, Somalis were ruled under Secular Ideology brought by the Western Powers. After Colonialism and the Freedom Northern Somalia and Southern Somalia gained in 1960, they formed ONE SOMALIA and the new Government was build in the style of Kufr and to satisfy the Western Colonialists, that were ever present, post-Somali Independence.

The rule of Shariah has never been present in Eastern Africa, maybe during the time of Ahmed Guray, but...who knows.

[Enlightened~Sista]

It's already being practiced.....
but whenever someone states that sharia law is going to be implemented anywhere people run around like headless chickens.

Saxiib can you clarify your answer a little bit more?

Ma waxaad ka mid tahay dadka rumaysan inay soomaalidu yihiin jaahiliin diintu dhawaan soo gaadhay?
I don't know about you but the last time I checked Somalia was like 99% Sunni Muslim and the fact that some Somalis are talking about implementing sharia law in Somalia today is an insult, what kind of f-king law do you think a country that's 99% Sunni Muslim practices.
either you believe Somalis are retarded or Somalis are new converts.
btw what do you have against Sufis, Sufis are not the ones causing problems in Somalia today; Sufis have done far less damage to Somalis than the bearded thugs you support.

[Samatr]

coeus

pray 5 daily prayers, follow the pillars, read the quran and follow the hadith and you should be fine; I'm not the best Muslim here so I am not preaching here but if people just follow what we were told there should be no need for another man/religious legal authority to lord over us and tell us what to do. Look at Saudi Arabia, people use this country all the time as a beacon of light when talking about sharia law; where does it say in the sharia law that women aren't competent enough to drive a car?

[Knight of Wisdom]

where does it say in the sharia law that women aren't competent enough to drive a car?

It's part of the Shariah Law that women can't travel alone, or should I say, "Shouldn't travel alone", and since driving, sometimes consists of driving alone, it will go against what the Prophet or the Shariah Law has put forth for us, in accordance to how we should live life.

If a woman was given her driver license and she was to drive a car then her husband's presence would be unncessary, since she can go anywhere she likes with her automobile, unless you're arguing that the Husband sits in the passenger seat at all times, keeping his wife company.

[Samatr]

where does it say in the sharia law that women aren't competent enough to drive a car?

It's part of the Shariah Law that women can't travel alone, or should I say, "Shouldn't travel alone", and since driving, sometimes consists of driving alone, it will go against what the Prophet or the Shariah Law has put forth for us, in accordance to how we should live life.

If a woman was given her driver license and she was to drive a car then her husband's presence would be unncessary, since she can go anywhere she likes with her automobile, unless you're arguing that the Husband sits in the passenger seat at all times, keeping his wife company.

I've never been to saudi arabia but I know a handful of people from there and each of them gave me the impression that women are not allowed to drive at all, traveling long distances you need a muhram (sp?) but I'm pretty sure women can't drive themselves to do grocery shopping===>thats what I was taking about.

[Coeus]

coeus

pray 5 daily prayers, follow the pillars, read the quran and follow the hadith and you should be fine; I'm not the best Muslim here so I am not preaching here but if people just follow what we were told there should be no need for another man/religious legal authority to lord over us and tell us what to do. Look at Saudi Arabia, people use this country all the time as a beacon of light when talking about sharia law; where does it say in the sharia law that women aren't competent enough to drive a car?

i see.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

the real question you should first ask yourself is whats SHARIA LAW? Is it man made or divine laws from ALLAH?

Actually 90% of so called Sharia Laws or islamic judicial come from fiqi books and all fiqi books are man made and written bye HUMANS. and the biggest problem is there is no consensus about wich fiqi laws muslim HAVE TO use under so called sharia laws country. SHAFICI fiqi books or hanbali fiqi books are different and all other islamic judicial books. people get confuse so called xuduud punishment whichs cutting hands, actually xuduud is less then 5% of islamic sharia laws.

so MAN made laws are big part of so called sharia laws

[Knight of Wisdom]

I've never been to saudi arabia but I know a handful of people from there and each of them gave me the impression that women are not allowed to drive at all, traveling long distances you need a muhram (sp?) but I'm pretty sure women can't drive themselves to do grocery shopping===>thats what I was taking about.

I'm not a Scholar in the Deen. However, I personally think, when a Woman is given the ability to drive herself to anywhere, it might result in her getting into whatever that would please her Husband, thus it will break up families. Nonetheless, I think women should be taught how to drive a car, so that in times of needs, when no Muhram is available to help her, she can help herself achieve what she wishes.

[Samatr]

I've never been to saudi arabia but I know a handful of people from there and each of them gave me the impression that women are not allowed to drive at all, traveling long distances you need a muhram (sp?) but I'm pretty sure women can't drive themselves to do grocery shopping===>thats what I was taking about.

I'm not a Scholar in the Deen. However, I personally think, when a Woman is given the ability to drive herself to anywhere, it might result in her getting into whatever that would please her Husband, thus it will break up families. Nonetheless, I think women should be taught how to drive a car, so that in times of needs, when no Muhram is available to help her, she can help herself achieve what she wishes.

Negro please, if you think your wife is going to do something wrong just because she has the ability to drive then there's no trust at all, what's the point of being married if your that paranoid your wife is gonna do something wrong?