Bullshit.guhad122 wrote:It is all about the green man!!! Just last night, I was talking with an assist professor who is a Somali and hails from the same clan as the current premier. He told me something interesting. Prof. Abdiweli's salary at Niagra University was about $5000 a month; with all the deducations, his take home was less than 3500.
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Somalia people need a way to share power or else it will be a mess 4.5 makes sure there is a formula that majority of the people of somaliya are satisfied with.That will continue to exist mark my words the 4 main clans will get each 4 ministers and they can continue to make sure they are competent individuals.Coeus wrote:No it wont. Elections will happen and whoever becomes president can choose his cabinet without giving people jobs based on tribe, but basen on Competence, and performance.The_Emperior5 wrote:If the Mandate ends , the 4.5 will continue to exist
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Take it easy now. I dont agree with him on that point either. But it is better if you articulate why you dont agree with him and present facts or something.Xamud. wrote:Bullshit.guhad122 wrote:It is all about the green man!!! Just last night, I was talking with an assist professor who is a Somali and hails from the same clan as the current premier. He told me something interesting. Prof. Abdiweli's salary at Niagra University was about $5000 a month; with all the deducations, his take home was less than 3500.
Much better then responding with "bullshit".
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Your opinion.The_Emperior5 wrote:Somalia people need a way to share power or else it will be a mess 4.5 makes sure there is a formula that majority of the people of somaliya are satisfied with.That will continue to exist mark my words the 4 main clans will get each 4 ministers and they can continue to make sure they are competent individuals.Coeus wrote:No it wont. Elections will happen and whoever becomes president can choose his cabinet without giving people jobs based on tribe, but basen on Competence, and performance.The_Emperior5 wrote:If the Mandate ends , the 4.5 will continue to exist
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what alternative do you have for the people of Somalia fought over Qabil , the people of Somalia fought over Qabil they can only agree to share a government due to the 4.5 Clan formula or else there is nothing so Coeus what alternative do you have for the people of Somalia coeus and dont come with people will elect a president and he will just electa cabinet and a prime minister what if he just only selects people from His clan 

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Guhad112 you're biggest liar on Somalinet, abdifahah Rochester got that position when Farmaajo was the prime minister.
It's Ramadan stop spreading lies ilaahey ka baq
It's Ramadan stop spreading lies ilaahey ka baq
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That Abdiweli guy is an opportunistic snake, Farmaajo was a ma of integrity who didnt steal a penny from aid funds.
What do you expect corruption and siphoning funds are parallel with his constituency.
What do you expect corruption and siphoning funds are parallel with his constituency.
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I do not believe Somalia will have a president LIVING in Somalia for a long time. I believe from now on, our goverment will be fellow Diaspora men and women. People with education and a vision. People who dont steal the money or indulge themselves in Qabil. Therefore i do not believe as long as we bring in educated people in the goverment, there will be no Tribalism.The_Emperior5 wrote:what alternative do you have for the people of Somalia fought over Qabil , the people of Somalia fought over Qabil they can only agree to share a government due to the 4.5 Clan formula or else there is nothing so Coeus what alternative do you have for the people of Somalia coeus and dont come with people will elect a president and he will just electa cabinet and a prime minister what if he just only selects people from His clan
Look at abdiweli, he chose his Cabinet and nobody is from his subclan among them. Even the Defence minister in charge of the Army is Isaaq (Hussein arab isse).
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20,000 a month? This really cant be true! i really dont mind them getting paid well, after all they are risking their lives but this is excessive. As for the camera guy everyone starts at somewhere.
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It is not true they get 2000 dollars a month or 5000 at most.greenday wrote:20,000 a month? This really cant be true! i really dont mind them getting paid well, after all they are risking their lives but this is excessive. As for the camera guy everyone starts at somewhere.
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Although i agree that Farmaajo was more or less free from Corruption. I dont think that Abdiweli deserves negative critiscm just yet. There is no evidence of him siphoning any money or avoiding his national duties. Do not forget this guy was actually part of Farmaajos cabinet and chosen by him to continue the Policies. Even though Puntland does have several corrupt officers and goverment officials.grandpakhalif wrote:That Abdiweli guy is an opportunistic snake, Farmaajo was a ma of integrity who didnt steal a penny from aid funds.
What do you expect corruption and siphoning funds are parallel with his constituency.
I do not think its warranted that we label any politican as corrupt, before there is evidence that proves it. So far abdiweli has been doing his national duties and has not atraveled abroad or anything remotely like that. So lets give him a chance. Thank you.
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That doesn't change anything because the people will see him as from a particular clan,, but that should not be a problem perse because aslong as he makes sure the ministers are selected based on the 4.5 and the 4 main clans get each 4 ministers abdi weli selected a nice cabinet Compatent people but based on the 4.5 and that will continue because its the perfect formula.Coeus wrote:I do not believe SomaliA will have a president LIVING in Somalia for a long time. I believe from now on, our goverment will be fellow Diaspora men and women. People with education and a vision. People who dont steal the money or indulge themselves in Qabil. Therefore i do not believe aslong as we bring in educated people in the goverment, there will be no Tribalism.The_Emperior5 wrote:what alternative do you have for the people of Somalia fought over Qabil , the people of Somalia fought over Qabil they can only agree to share a government due to the 4.5 Clan formula or else there is nothing so Coeus what alternative do you have for the people of Somalia coeus and dont come with people will elect a president and he will just electa cabinet and a prime minister what if he just only selects people from His clan
Look at abdiweli, he chose his Cabinet and nobody is from his subclan among them. Even the Defence minister in charge of the Army is Isaaq (Hussein arab isse).
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Some people in here are acting like we never had a government before. Yahuu
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It started with a topic on Gaas's wardrobe ,now its his supposed salary (been iyo bakhti) . I wonder whats next 

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Now that’s understandable!Coeus wrote:It is not true they get 2000 dollars a month or 5000 at most.greenday wrote:20,000 a month? This really cant be true! i really dont mind them getting paid well, after all they are risking their lives but this is excessive. As for the camera guy everyone starts at somewhere.
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