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Re: Neither Sheikh Sharif nor Sakiin will be in the new TFG
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:36 am
by greenday
Voltage wrote:greenday wrote:Voltage its has nothing to do with the Shriifs or anyone else in the TFG is his bravery that shocked me then again as the saying goes mukulaal mininkeeda joogta miciyo leh, he must have been in comfortable surroundings to speak so freely.
Well true, I doubt anyone in the meeting shed a tear for either Sheikh Sharif or Sharif Hassan and to be honest a lot of people do support American involvement in Somalia.
All i am going to say to you is dont be blinded by your hate for these two as they will go but if the next two happen to be to your favour...
NOT MY BUSINESS
They picked Akanni up one morning
Beat him soft like clay
And stuffed him down the belly
Of a waiting jeep.
What business of mine is it
So long they don’t take the yam
From my savouring mouth?
They came one night
Booted the whole house awake
And dragged Danladi out,
Then off to a lengthy absence.
What business of mine is it
So long they don’t take the yam
From my savouring mouth?
Chinwe went to work one day
Only to find her job was gone:
No query, no warning, no probe -
Just one neat sack for a stainless record.
What business of mine is it
So long they don’t take the yam
From my savouring mouth?
And then one evening
As I sat down to eat my yam
A knock on the door froze my hungry hand.
The jeep was waiting on my bewildered lawn
Waiting, waiting in its usual silence.
© Niyi Osundare
Re: Neither Sheikh Sharif nor Sakiin will be in the new TFG
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:38 am
by Voltage
shiniile9 wrote:If one can`t manage his own country and leaving his people in dire situations we`ve seen on TV...the international body has to intervene and tame both animals of : suit wearing TFG and face covering AL-kilaab.
100% agree. The international community made the TFG, they need to fix it. I don't understand the people crying for Sharif Sakin and Sheikh Sharif under the guise of fighting "interference". What is more interference than the whole appointment of Sheikh Sharif?
Re: Neither Sheikh Sharif nor Sakiin will be in the new TFG
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:40 am
by shiniile9
Re: Neither Sheikh Sharif nor Sakiin will be in the new TFG
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:11 am
by RovingMadness
Voltage,
The political situation that let to Sharif's election are entirely different than today. The West & International Community believed that he was the best man to defeat the Islamist and nullify their extremist agenda as he personally previously led them. After 2 years, the extremists are divided and at their weakest point since their formation and what's more the public support is with the government. These were the key objectives of the International Community.
What matters is, is Sh Sharif delievering and the answer is yes. He did with 9000 AMISOM troops what 100,000 NATO troops couldnt in Afghanistan and he did so in 2 years. As it stands my bet is with him getting re-elected but time will tell. August 2012 is not too far away after-all
Re: Neither Sheikh Sharif nor Sakiin will be in the new TFG
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:14 am
by Murax
What is definitely going to happen is a very strong 'Federalism' agenda being pursued in the South. It wouldn't suprise me if by '12 there are 2 or more Federal Administrations that are 100% backed by the West.
Re: Neither Sheikh Sharif nor Sakiin will be in the new TFG
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:23 am
by The_Emperior5
The international community they have to work with what they have which is sharif and his cabinet.Its true the EU begin this year said they will cut all ties with the tfg if elections dont happen on time.uganda burundi and rwanda and tanzania made sure sharif and co would get another year i will not be suprised if sharif gets another term its looking good for him alshabaab is gone in mogadisho. For the first time mogadisho is in the hands of one authority.
Re: Neither Sheikh Sharif nor Sakiin will be in the new TFG
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:27 am
by FBISOMALIA
good luck for the TFG
Re: Neither Sheikh Sharif nor Sakiin will be in the new TFG
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:28 am
by RovingMadness
The_Emperior5,
You are right. The political solutions will be determined by the security situation.
Re: Neither Sheikh Sharif nor Sakiin will be in the new TFG
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:31 am
by Voltage
Roving, according to the principal US foreign policy maker for east africa, Sheikh Sharif won't even qualify to run. He will not meet the conditions to become a member of the future administration. I know you personally support Shiekh Sharif lately but between your clan cafe talks and the principal US foreign policy maker for the region I would rather believe the latter.
Emperior, this out of your league.
Re: Neither Sheikh Sharif nor Sakiin will be in the new TFG
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:33 am
by Babygirl-
They can all go including the Parliament any member should also have a Degree. An Educated Government! same to the Provincial & Local governments..
Re: Neither Sheikh Sharif nor Sakiin will be in the new TFG
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:34 am
by RovingMadness
Voltage wrote:Roving, according to the principal US foreign policy maker for east africa, Sheikh Sharif won't even qualify to run. He will not meet the conditions to become a member of the future administration. I know you personally support Shiekh Sharif lately but between your clan cafe talks and the principal US foreign policy maker for the region I would rather believe the latter.
Emperior, this out of your league.
War ninyahow, we both know that even if Sh Sharif leaves, the chances of Mudulood president or Prime Minister is 100% granted, so quit this silly talk. Adiga, you still have some bitter taste from the Farmaajo debacle. Give it sometime, you will heal
Re: Neither Sheikh Sharif nor Sakiin will be in the new TFG
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:47 am
by Voltage
Roving, this topic is about me relaying what the principal US foreign policy maker for our region told a large Somali audience; namely the president, speaker of parliament, and most of the parliamentarians will not be able to fullfill the conditions required to continue membership in Somali governance.
Re: Neither Sheikh Sharif nor Sakiin will be in the new TFG
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:49 am
by RovingMadness
Voltage wrote:Roving, this topic is about me relaying what the principal US foreign policy maker for our region told a large Somali audience; namely the president, speaker of parliament, and most of the parliamentarians will not be able to fullfill the conditions required to continue membership in Somali governance.
And as I said 2012 is not too far away. So let's wait & see
Re: Neither Sheikh Sharif nor Sakiin will be in the new TFG
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:52 am
by Cinque Mtume
I welcome this good news. If we can get Hawiye versions of Farmaajo and Gaas to complement our honest politicians, sheekadii maxaaba ka harey.
Re: Neither Sheikh Sharif nor Sakiin will be in the new TFG
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:01 am
by ciyaal_warta
well it was obvious that soomaaliya was under trusteeship of international community ..with all this draught happening someone gota do something about it ...this time nobody is gona stand against them
