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Re: Qaraabo Eid Wanaagsan!!
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:20 am
by udun
Grant wrote:udun wrote:Grant wrote:Amiin iyo Eid wanaagsan!
Good to see you back.

Grant, you can speak Somali? Wow, you trick me bro. I read sometime back you said you worked in Southern Somalia in the past, and may I bother to ask what was your main work over there?
Afkaygi wa yar yahay. I taught ESl at the government school in Jilib. There is a thread in the archive called "class of '66".
May I bother to ask you if you were in the missionary business? And if so, how were you successful? If I am not mistaken, you claimed you are mormon, is that correct also? My apology if I am too intrusive!!
Re: Qaraabo Eid Wanaagsan!!
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:22 am
by Cinque Mtume
Dude he just told you that all the info you're asking for is in that thread "Class of '66".

Re: Qaraabo Eid Wanaagsan!!
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:25 am
by udun
Cinque Mtume wrote:Dude he just told you that all the info you're asking for is in that thread "Class of '66".

Dude I can't find the thread. Actually, the search could not give it to me

Re: Qaraabo Eid Wanaagsan!!
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:29 am
by Grant
Re: Qaraabo Eid Wanaagsan!!
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:46 am
by udun
Thanks Grant. You did your part to help.
I hope if there were any missionary activities, those efforts had not been successful in the past. Those are just my two cents. I said it because missionary activities in the past and the present is on-going, but I can't blame them because those Christian missionaries do believe they are doing the best they can. As a Muslim, I have to remind my fellow Muslims what has been taken place in Somalia in the past and the present. I believe the current AMISOM forces will double the Christian missionary efforts in Somalia. The changing of the Islamic character in Somalia is unfortunately in full speed.
Re: Qaraabo Eid Wanaagsan!!
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:53 am
by Babygirl-
Siren is a cousin of my mom & Kambuli knows my family ( & can be family) why can't i call them Haabaryar?
Re: Qaraabo Eid Wanaagsan!!
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:02 pm
by Grant
Udun,
I have enormous respect for the Sufis, especially Aweys al Qadiri, but I am less impressed with the Nejdian philosophies, especially as practiced by the Sayyid MAH.
As volunteer guests of the Government, we were told, and made a sincere effort, to avoid mentioning either qabiil or religion. While most of us were nominally either Christian or Jewish, I am not aware that any of us either had religious materials or were in the least way evangelizing. That just wasn't the game. I know I made no such efforts.
Re: Qaraabo Eid Wanaagsan!!
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:48 pm
by udun
Grant wrote:Udun,
I have enormous respect for the Sufis, especially Aweys al Qadiri, but I am less impressed with the Nejdian philosophies, especially as practiced by the Sayyid MAH.
As volunteer guests of the Government, we were told, and made a sincere effort, to avoid mentioning either qabiil or religion. While most of us were nominally either Christian or Jewish, I am not aware that any of us either had religious materials or were in the least way evangelizing. That just wasn't the game. I know I made no such efforts.
Grant,
Sayid Mohamed Abdulle Hassan's efforts were to reject colinialism. Three things trigerred his mission to resist British, Italian, and abyssinian expasionism and dictations on the Somali people. First, it was the British asking him to pay duty fee when he got off the boat at Berbera. His main problem was how can a non-Mulsim foreigner asked him to pay duty fee in his country, and who gave them the aouthority to make such decisions? Secondly, the British Governor in Berbera asked Somalis to stop the Sheikh who was doing the Adaan (the call to prayer) from waking him up in the morning. Thirdly, When Sayid Mohamed A Hassan arrived in the city of Shiekh, he found a church that housed Somali kids. He has asked them about their families and their clan. The orphaned kids responded: The Father. I each question that was asked, the kids responded "the Father". Knowing where they were heading with their responses, that had strucked Sayid MAH, and he decided to do something about it. His main goals were rejecting foreigner coming, spreading their faith, and dictating their will on the Somalis. He has also rejected many non-Islamic practices that Somalis were doing like going to graves and begging, and many heretic activities which had nothing to do with Islam.
For Sheikh Aweis, to my knowledge, his way of spreading Islam was to preach the faith and don't engage in armed struggle. He has actually done his part to spread Islam, but his goal was co-opting European colonizers intead of confronting them.
Those are the differences that I have found between those two Somali religious men. I personally leave it to the Muslim theologians to decide which was the best approach Islamically, but I know there were many Muslim revolutionaries in those days, and they have all adapted armed resistance.
Re: Qaraabo Eid Wanaagsan!!
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:59 pm
by Grant
Udun,
By their fruits ye shall know them. Aweys and the Qadiri spread Islam to a third of Africa. Before MAH was done, the British had full control and a third of the Somali population in the North was dead. Very, very few of them Cadaan.
My apologies to Kambuli for hijacking her thread.

Re: Qaraabo Eid Wanaagsan!!
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:03 pm
by Username1
Udun the mad mullah was a backward jaahil who was mystified with the sight of a Whitman and thought they were the devil, then declared war on them. This up right respectable muslim you paint is not the mullah of the cult Darwish.
Re: Qaraabo Eid Wanaagsan!!
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:12 pm
by The_Emperior5
Babygirl- wrote:Siren is a cousin of my mom & Kambuli knows my family ( & can be family) why can't i call them Haabaryar?
what siren is related to habarjeclo

Re: Qaraabo Eid Wanaagsan!!
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:14 pm
by Username1
The_Emperior5 wrote:Babygirl- wrote:Siren is a cousin of my mom & Kambuli knows my family ( & can be family) why can't i call them Haabaryar?
what siren is related to habarjeclo

Nope, but Udun is..

Re: Qaraabo Eid Wanaagsan!!
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:16 pm
by The_Emperior5
s? Secondly, the British Governor in Berbera asked Somalis to stop the Sheikh who was doing the Adaan (the call to prayer) from waking him up in the morning. Thirdly, When Sayid Mohamed A Hassan arrived in the city of Shiekh, he found a church that housed Somali kids.

where did you get that nonsense
Re: Qaraabo Eid Wanaagsan!!
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:15 pm
by Hyperactive
salam wa eid mobarah. inshallah ramadan ka khair badan Allah naka seeyo.
تقبل الله منا ومنكم صالح الاعمال
Re: Qaraabo Eid Wanaagsan!!
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:44 pm
by siren
Eid Mubarak Kambuli ...
Babygirl- wrote:Siren is a cousin of my mom & Kambuli knows my family ( & can be family) why can't i call them Haabaryar?
Eid Mubarak Habo macaan...
The_Emperior5 wrote:Babygirl- wrote:Siren is a cousin of my mom & Kambuli knows my family ( & can be family) why can't i call them Haabaryar?
what siren is related to habarjeclo

Acudubillah, habarkaa igaa dhaaf Eddie....
