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Re: Somaliland Buranbuur,,Impressive
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:18 am
by The_Emperior5
Well it says they manufactured woven it doesn't specifically say that dirac saari was Manufactred in Xamar thats an absurd Claim Somalis would have wore it for centuries if that was the case 700s years It doesn't add up
Re: Somaliland Buranbuur,,Impressive
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:24 am
by Voltage
What do you know about what was worn in Merka, Brava, Xamarweyne, and Kismaayo? Do you think the Shingaani and Bravenese wore nomadic guntiino? The whole width of British Somaliland was nomadic whereas not all of the South was. The coastal people in the Benadir have a long history going farther than your clan and my clan's "labo go'" culture. Remember, the coastal people call us "lama goodle" describing our "labo go'" (aka nomadic dress).
The only difference between you and I is, I don't venerate European colonialism and think they are the first of everything in Somalia.

Re: Somaliland Buranbuur,,Impressive
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:31 am
by ZubeirAwal
Voltage wrote:What do you know about what was born in Merka, Brava, Xamarweyne, and Kismaayo? The whole width of British Somaliland was nomadic whereas the whole width of the south wasn't. The coastal people in the Benadir have a long history going farther than your clan and my clan's "labo go'".
The only difference between you and I is, I don't venerate European colonialism and think they are the cause of everything in Somalia.

Was Kismaayo mentioned in 1000AD like berbera was
Was Merca mentioned in 1000AD like Maydh (Mundo) was?
Berbera
Maydh
Saylac
these lands have more history in trade and in islamic pre-history then any of your forests down there
Malao was an ancient city state located on the Somali peninsula that was an important trading member involved in the Red Sea-Indian Ocean commerce in the early centuries AD, and maintained an important monetary market for merchants trading in the currencies of the Roman Empire
The ancient port city of Malao, positioned in the historic Somali city of Berbera is mentioned in the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea:
"After Avalites there is another market-town, better than this, called Malao, distant a sail of about eight hundred stadia. The anchorage is an open roadstead, sheltered by a spit running out from the east. Here the natives are more peaceable. There are imported into this place the things already mentioned, and many tunics, cloaks from Arsinoe, dressed and dyed; drinking-cups, sheets of soft copper in small quantity, iron, and gold and silver coin, not much. There are exported from these places myrrh, a little frankincense, (that known as far-side), the harder cinnamon, duaca, Indian copal and macir, which are imported into Arabia; and slaves, but rarely."
—Chap.8.
Re: Somaliland Buranbuur,,Impressive
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:35 am
by The_Emperior5
Voltage wrote:What do you know about what was worn in Merka, Brava, Xamarweyne, and Kismaayo? Do you think the Shingaani and Bravenese wore nomadic guntiino? The whole width of British Somaliland was nomadic whereas the whole width of the south wasn't. The coastal people in the Benadir have a long history going farther than your clan and my clan's "labo go'".
The only difference between you and I is, I don't venerate European colonialism and think they are the cause of everything in Somalia.

Where did i say European Colonialism is the cause of everything in Somalia i just said Somaliland traders imported goods from india to adan and than back to berbera in the 19 century. What does that have to do with Colonialism even way before the Colonial Empire arrived in the horn of africa.
Any way no one is denying Mogadisho and its civilization from the Ajuuraan Empire but most Coastal towns in Somaliland were very active and Business was booming they were not just nomads berbera has a long History of trade for centuries the same with Seylac
Re: Somaliland Buranbuur,,Impressive
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:45 am
by Voltage
Emperior, dhalaankiinan yar ee wareersan bal meesha ka wada.

Re: Somaliland Buranbuur,,Impressive
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:24 pm
by Chinaman
AbuukarSubeer wrote:
Was Kismaayo mentioned in 1000AD like berbera was
Was Merca mentioned in 1000AD like Maydh (Mundo) was?
Berbera
Maydh
Saylac
these lands have more history in trade and in islamic pre-history then any of your forests down there
Malao was an ancient city state located on the Somali peninsula that was an important trading member involved in the Red Sea-Indian Ocean commerce in the early centuries AD, and maintained an important monetary market for merchants trading in the currencies of the Roman Empire
The ancient port city of Malao, positioned in the historic Somali city of Berbera is mentioned in the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea:
"After Avalites there is another market-town, better than this, called Malao, distant a sail of about eight hundred stadia. The anchorage is an open roadstead, sheltered by a spit running out from the east. Here the natives are more peaceable. There are imported into this place the things already mentioned, and many tunics, cloaks from Arsinoe, dressed and dyed; drinking-cups, sheets of soft copper in small quantity, iron, and gold and silver coin, not much. There are exported from these places myrrh, a little frankincense, (that known as far-side), the harder cinnamon, duaca, Indian copal and macir, which are imported into Arabia; and slaves, but rarely."
—Chap.8.
Maloa was not that big nor was it very important according to the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea. Mosylon (Bosaaso), Opone(xafuun) and the region near Aromata promontorium (Cape Guardafui) were much more significant

Re: Somaliland Buranbuur,,Impressive
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:31 pm
by Mckuus
Kismaayo was historically an Omani Arab and Bantu city. Basically an extension of Lamu.
It was not even Somali.
Re: Somaliland Buranbuur,,Impressive
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:44 pm
by tightrope
Mckuus wrote:Kismaayo was historically an Omani Arab and Bantu city. Basically an extension of Lamu.
It was not even Somali.
HOW DOES KISMAYO BELONG TO FOREIGN OMANI ARABS? THEY ARE FROM OMAN IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
KISMAYO BELONGS TO THE SOMALIS! BANTUS CAN GO BACK TO TANZANIA!

Re: Somaliland Buranbuur,,Impressive
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:46 pm
by Xamud.
Xalimo Soofe is the queen of Buranbuur

Re: Somaliland Buranbuur,,Impressive
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:54 pm
by Mckuus
tightrope wrote:HOW DOES KISMAYO BELONG TO FOREIGN OMANI ARABS? THEY ARE FROM OMAN IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
KISMAYO BELONGS TO THE SOMALIS! BANTUS CAN GO BACK TO TANZANIA!

If you went back in time to when Kismaayo was established you wouldn't find anyone who speaks Somali there.
Re: Somaliland Buranbuur,,Impressive
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:06 pm
by greenday
Beans wrote:Buraanbur is an individual talent irrespective of the region the person hails from.Next u lot are gonna say dirac from sland is better.
The types of baraanbur from each region is different, listen to the somaliland one she uses "naa" its much more aggressive and than the one in the south even the beat is different. I use to think baranbur was baranbur till i went to a aroos from a different qabill i was shocked at the difference.
Re: Somaliland Buranbuur,,Impressive
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:54 pm
by anonymousfaarax
greenday wrote:Beans wrote:Buraanbur is an individual talent irrespective of the region the person hails from.Next u lot are gonna say dirac from sland is better.
The types of baraanbur from each region is different, listen to the somaliland one she uses "naa" its much more aggressive and than the one in the south even the beat is different. I use to think baranbur was baranbur till i went to a aroos from a different qabill i was shocked at the difference.
Yh buranbur tends to have varying tones/melody/rhythms according to region.