A religion which allows suicidebombs cannot be true

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Donkey TL who advocates for secularism above islamic law should be banned himself together with his siyadist asslicker shitage. The guy is responsible for couple of kufr statements.
U hate me just because I dont support ur redlips president and cali naafto, or maxamed dheere.
Because of u we hutus are in this shit.
I mean bantus had to come to liberate for u kaaraan , yaaqshiid, c/casiis. Still to this day ur ancestral places are ruled by eelays shabaab teaching u "islam".
Huge in numbers, but extremely weak.
You guys dont even support redlips just because he belongs to minor species( agoonyar) within the donkey ras. In dharkeenlay same clan killing each others for what? Isbaaro?
Thats how fucked up u are.

[Meru]

Christians love peace. there is no christian suicide bomber. am happy of being born into Christianity

[RovingMadness]

Hutuking,

I am sorry, but you gotta go. I say this not because I have any motives against you, but because this dangerous mentality of marrying political views with the religion should be curtailed and put to an end. Members are free to make their own views but what you, GrandpaKhalif, Abdisamad and others do is a blatant mockery and insult against the religion and what's more it's destroying our country.

There comes a time, when enough is enough

[melo]

I don't know why you try and separate yourself from khaarijism. One day you called Ceyrow AUN a murtad, then after being called out in the thread, you took back your takfir. Then you said those who pray salatul janazah for Anwar Awlaki are murtads. You have no principles what so ever, and scream "murtad" at impluse without any religious justification. At least put a proper argument forth, so it can be challenged. Right now you are just abusing terminology.

[union]

Hutu suffers from some mental condition or is making a mockery out of Islam. He spends his time on the forum either promoting some strange minority sect whose beliefs he is not long constrained and going off on rants where he accuses nearly everyone of being a murtad. I just put him in the same category as like Afisoone and ignore him generally, he needs the type of help we cannot provide.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

I really dont know weither to laugh or cry everytime gaal union swears to be muslim even though he is a straight apostate by endorsing evolution kufr belief.
You should be the last of mankind to claim islamnimo.

As for Melo,
I gave u evidence from hadiths about their apostacy. These words of the prophet pbuh are clear for the people of knowledge.
If u reject it then that is ur loss.

My only reason to withdraw from my view on Ceyroow(aun) has not to do with clan but the fact that he died before shabab turned khawarij.
During a time when amxaaro and murtad ina yeey were in xamar.
I wouldnt hesitate to call him murtad if he lived today and still member of shabab.

[accident]

Another thread for members to call each other murtards/Kufaars/Atheists.

[melo]

I should re-word what i said. You do have one principle. That is that Khawaarij are murtads. However, you take this stance and apply it recklessly. You have no limits, and end up making takfiir upon people only to realise very shortly that you were incorrect. Furthemore, you go even further and claim supporters of these supposed murtads are kaafirs. I'll show you how dangerous your ideology is with a practical example.

1- Allah SWT says that those who ally themselves with the Christians are but one of them. Every major mufassir said that "but one of them" means gaalnimo and this consensus. It is haram to take them as allies and protectors
2- Shariif Sheekh Axmed's awliyah are Amisom
3- Shariif is a murtad
4- Everyone who supports Shariif is a murtad.

Using your primitive logic, most of Xamar and a large portion of this forum are gaalo.

You have abandoned all the culemaa of Somalia, and use your own supposed aql to make religious fatwas. You remind me the takfiri group back home who refused to pray in the masaajids and eat the meat of the people, because everyone was a gaal. Acuudubillah.

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[union]

You trying to give grandpakhalif jacking off material?

[melo]

Another logical fallacy in Hutu's thinking. Hutu is a supporter of the Islamic regime in Iran, who proudly sponsors Hamas. Hamas a khaarijtes for engaging in such attacks, and thus Iran are murtads because they support Hamas.

There is no logic behind any of his religious arguments.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Melo, the Hamas are fighting yahudis. Since when were jews muslims?
Still I do not agree with Hamas's use of suicidebombs , they dont have much choice. But they are muslims who are wrong on this issue.
My problem with shabab and alqeada is that they make muslim blood halaal, they allow things which is forbidden by Allmighty Allah swt.
These are signs of khawarij.com

Alhamdulilah I have evidence from hadith and quran to back up my justified takfeer against ina yeey, the communist regime, shabab and alqeada.
As for taliban I will do some research and come back on them. Maybe they are mujahidiin or sinful criminal muslims or apostates.

[The_Emperior5]

But Hutuking killing your self in Islam is haram whether its against The Jews or against Muslim i understand what you are saying they are fighting the enemies of Allah the Jews but that still doesn't make it right to blow up your self

[melo]

My problem with shabab and alqeada is that they make muslim blood halaal, they allow things which is forbidden by Allmighty Allah swt.
These are signs of khawarij.com

haddaan ku gartay,, it isnt suicide bombings that makes someone a gaal, but who they are targeted at. Ok. I agree that they do make Muslim blood halal, but please look at my shariif example to see how your thinking can get you into hot water.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Melo&emp, dont get me wrong.
I didnt make suicidebombing a criteria for someone to leave islam.
Nevertless I believe its a crime weither hamas, hezbollah commits it.
Hamas didnt had much option to commit suicideattacks when they were weak.
Now they dont do suiciding anymore.
Islamic heroes of Iran gave them excellent military training so these days if a war happens they will resist the big nosed jews with their weapons and less focuss on suicidemissions.

If we look at shabaab, we see that most of their suicideattacks are directed at the muslim civilians.
They do that because the shacab are not regarded as muslims. Lately this wadaadkusheeg called jaamac said there is a group who makes takfeer on the muslims. I think he was talking about the group lead by godane who are extreme hardliners, while wadaadkusheeg jaamac is from the other moderate khaariji group lead by eelay fake sheikh abu mansur.
So the group of godane makes takfeer on all somali ppl, while abu mansur group says only tfg are apostates.