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Re: Child prostitution in South Africa

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:14 am
by Lamagoodle

Re: Child prostitution in South Africa

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:20 am
by AwdalPrince
Lamgoodle wrote:Awdal, go and learn economic growth, GDP and development and come back.

I have read the south african government report and it is about equity in contrast to efficiency; there is always a trade off between the two.

The economic history of south africa after the apartheid regime collapse is one of success if you measure using it various indicators and indices.

There is however a long road to go because the problems created by apartheid will take many decades to dismantle.

It is easy to quote an apartheid nostalgic website but the facts are there.
Bring evidence that South Africa has improved economically after Aparthied. Stop beating around the bush, the SOuth African Census reports all mention the drastic decline in living standrds, job opportunities post 1994. Even the most anti apartheid black supremacist will readily admit this. Dude, when the African National Congress took over SA do you know what they did? They abolished the SOuth African economic system, go and google it. Do you know why? They did it to try and promote free market trade but it failed miserably.

I quoted an anti apartheid campaigner

Re: Child prostitution in South Africa

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:23 am
by Lamagoodle
Read the above link.

Re: Child prostitution in South Africa

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:24 am
by AwdalPrince
Sorry but Wikipedia wont save your flawed notions at all. I've read it many times

I am yet to see any evidence (Wiki doesn't count) which is concrete from your side to prove that South Africa has considerably improved post Apartheid.

Please, Im waiting.

While your at it, you should ask anyone you know about the condition of the Cape Town - Johannesburg freeway. I hear it hasn't been renovated for years. I need to do more research.

Re: Child prostitution in South Africa

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:26 am
by Lamagoodle
Go and see the references.

You can also type south africa, gdp growth, economic growth etc on google.scholar.com

I have written on this issue myself so you might find my own name; in that case, don't hang my name on this site :lol: :lol:

Re: Child prostitution in South Africa

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:28 am
by AwdalPrince
I wont do that, no worries :lol:

But seriously, it mentions 25% UNEMPLOYMENT. That's a freakin quarter of the entire population. :shock:

Unemployment

South Africa has an extreme and persistent high unemployment rate, which interacts with other economic and social problems such as inadequate education, poor health outcomes and crime.[39] In the third quarter of 2010, 29.80% of blacks were officially unemployed, compared with 22.30% of coloureds, 8.60 of Asians and 5.10% of whites.[40]

The unemployment rate has fuelled crime, inequality and social unrest. The global economic downturn has made the problem worse, wiping out more than a million jobs. In September 2010, over a third of South Africa’s workforce were out of work, and so were more than half of blacks aged 15–34, three times the level for whites.[41] Some experts contend that higher wages negotiated by politically powerful trade unions have suppressed job growth,[41] while a study by Harvard economist Dani Rodrik found that the shrinking of the manufacturing sector - rooted in structural problems such as South Africa's history of apartheid - was more to blame for rising unemployment and low growth.[42]

In the second quarter of 2010, the jobless rate increased to 25.3%, and the number of people with work fell by 61,000 to 12.7 million. Rising unemployment may curb consumer spending, which accounts for two-thirds of demand in the economy. The biggest decline in employment was recorded in the manufacturing industry, which shed 53,000 workers. Agriculture lost 32,000 jobs, employment in the construction industry fell by 15,000. Over 60% of those who are unemployed have been without jobs for more than a year.[43]
The Blacks ae disenfranchised because they don't want to work.

Re: Child prostitution in South Africa

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:36 am
by Lamagoodle
Yes, unemployment is high; child poverty too. Income distribution is bad; child mortality too.


But, the economy has continued to grow and the government has been doing alot; you need an incremental approach to tackling these issues.

You are forgetting one important thing here; if the economy grows then there will be spillover effetcs (multipliers) .

Crime rate is high; somalis in particular have been victimised in townships and a large middle class africans have curved alot .

But, we have to put these in the context of the history of the country. Apartheid was a horrible thing and it will centuries to dismantle its institutions.

Re: Child prostitution in South Africa

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:37 am
by AwdalPrince
Lamgoodle Please watch this video about post aparthied South Africa, this is the reality



Its so sad

Re: Child prostitution in South Africa

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:39 am
by Lamagoodle
Ok, I will do that!

I know things are horrible in some places; but we have to look at the causes and the efforts of the ANC in addressing these issues ( remember it is about incremental approaches)

Re: Child prostitution in South Africa

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:46 am
by AwdalPrince
Check this out too man:

[youtube]B5Kx4Iju8ck&feature=related[/youtube]

Re: Child prostitution in South Africa

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:50 am
by AwdalPrince
Cities of South Africa in the 1950's! London, New York, Paris eat your heart out! Man if my fam saw this they would be depressed at what it has become now :shock:

Johannesburg (1950)

[youtube]ItzW1-OoElM&feature=related[/youtube]


Cape Town (1950)

[youtube]BFyx2gnUVLs&feature=related[/youtube]



Pretoria (1950)

[youtube]U18J5vlEn3g&feature=related[/youtube]


Durban (1950)

[youtube]8p2eTDHfGt8&feature=related[/youtube]



BRING APARTHEID BACK PLEASEEEEE :(

Re: Child prostitution in South Africa

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:58 am
by Lamagoodle
Awdalprince,
I have watched the videos and of course this is not surprising; people are always unhappy if there is no radical change. SA has a huge task ahead.

But wishing apartheid based on abject racism on the people there is blasphemous.


Mind you, the prize of kicking apartheid is that more and more africans have the right to voice their concerns.

These problems shouldn't eclipse the strides made!

Re: Child prostitution in South Africa

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:56 am
by GeoSeven
well good to know we somalis were treated with some respect...although we should have had the highest priority in an apartheid state. the somali is above all other 8-)