What do the Ahmed Madoobe loyalists think of this?
Re: What do the Ahmed Madoobe loyalists think of this?
Heres How I see it. This can either go like 2007 or something better can happen. In 2007 Amxaaro tanks came into Kismaayo and installed a Kablalax dominated administration in Kismaayo and Sade were alienated. Within a couple months that admin was completely overrun and Sade went rogue and declared their own administration under a clan name. Shabab came and took over from Sade, and now Kenya came and is removing Shabab. Who they will install another admin that alienates Sade the same thing would happen. If You ask Me, I'm sick of clan fiefdoms and even as a Marexaan I do not want to see a "Marexaan admin" in Kismaayo. I want a fair, regional administration thats legitmate. That being said Prof Ghandi totally has it wrong according to the wiki leaks document by taking this arrogant position against beesha sade by trying to sideline them completely.
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Re: What do the Ahmed Madoobe loyalists think of this?
Murax iyo Voltage
Maanta beesha Marexaan waxaa u taala arin aad u adag, waayo iyaga umbaa hada aan wali hadafkoodi la ogayn inta kale ee dhulkaas dagan way cadahay waxay doonayaan.
Marka su´áashu waxaa weeye ma waxay la safan shariif iyo itoobiya mise Ogaden iyo keenya. Xiligii muqdisho laga sugayay inay somaaliya ka dhismato waa la dhaafay, waxayna maraysaa war ama tashta ama shariifku marba kitaab cusub ha idiin galo.
Maanta beesha Marexaan waxaa u taala arin aad u adag, waayo iyaga umbaa hada aan wali hadafkoodi la ogayn inta kale ee dhulkaas dagan way cadahay waxay doonayaan.
Marka su´áashu waxaa weeye ma waxay la safan shariif iyo itoobiya mise Ogaden iyo keenya. Xiligii muqdisho laga sugayay inay somaaliya ka dhismato waa la dhaafay, waxayna maraysaa war ama tashta ama shariifku marba kitaab cusub ha idiin galo.
Re: What do the Ahmed Madoobe loyalists think of this?
ina aadan wrote:Murax iyo Voltage
Maanta beesha Marexaan waxaa u taala arin aad u adag, waayo iyaga umbaa hada aan wali hadafkoodi la ogayn inta kale ee dhulkaas dagan way cadahay waxay doonayaan.
Marka su´áashu waxaa weeye ma waxay la safan shariif iyo itoobiya mise Ogaden iyo keenya. Xiligii muqdisho laga sugayay inay somaaliya ka dhismato waa la dhaafay, waxayna maraysaa war ama tashta ama shariifku marba kitaab cusub ha idiin galo.
Ina Aadan,
cid sh dalxis meeshan taagersan meeshan majiraan. Taas la soco. Laakin Wikileakska aqri gandigaan aad taagersantihiin wuu cadaystay cadowtinimoda uu u qabo beesha sade. Wuxu raba maamul inu ku kor dhiso dulmi iyo in beel dhan u ka saaro Jubbaland. Adiga hadaad leedahay ama arrintaas nala wadaag ama Ethiopia taageera dee sheeko kale keen You know thats not the reality.
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Re: What do the Ahmed Madoobe loyalists think of this?
War gaandhi iska dhig xagaas niyow Axmed madoobe oo Ogadenaba ma ogola e, idinku taangiga awliyada keenya inaynu ku xoraysano dhulkeena maxaad ka qabtaan.
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Re: What do the Ahmed Madoobe loyalists think of this?
Personally I would support Kenya over Ethiopia but many things have to be sorted out starting with this Azania initiative. It seems in the last months it has completely fallen apart and even the little media stunts is no more. Kenya can stick to one thing that all the armed groups in the land are against or they can be equitable between the groups and help them build a fair administration.
Kenya in Somalia will not be legitimized beyond neutralizing Al Shabaab militarily. They will have to leave the land to Somalis inside of Somalia. If Kenya persists in Azania, the disaffected groups can very well turn to Ethiopia who is more battle tested than Kenya. This issue really seems like it is for Kenya to achieve or fumble.
Kenya in Somalia will not be legitimized beyond neutralizing Al Shabaab militarily. They will have to leave the land to Somalis inside of Somalia. If Kenya persists in Azania, the disaffected groups can very well turn to Ethiopia who is more battle tested than Kenya. This issue really seems like it is for Kenya to achieve or fumble.
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Re: What do the Ahmed Madoobe loyalists think of this?
Ethiopia didn't establish that administration that was expelled, Abdullahi Yusuf did. He didn't even want a 3rd guuto for Sade after the first guuto (MJ who came with Yusuf from Puntland, Col Afgaduud), and second guuto (Absame, Col Koojaar) but the Ethiopians forced him before they left and Col Fartaag was made its commander.Murax wrote:Heres How I see it. This can either go like 2007 or something better can happen. In 2007 Amxaaro tanks came into Kismaayo and installed a Kablalax dominated administration in Kismaayo and Sade were alienated. Within a couple months that admin was completely overrun and Sade went rogue and declared their own administration under a clan name. .
Ethiopians have long put their cards with Sade controlling Kismaayo.
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Re: What do the Ahmed Madoobe loyalists think of this?
Ina-Aadan;
Why are you discussing the Jubaland affairs with Booli-Qaran raised Ilka-Yars who have no connection to the Deegaan. The true reer Gedo people are pro Azania and have been given ministerial positions in the administration. Their biggest Ugaas from Garbahaareey suppored the Azania initiative.
So Voltage,
In your right-mind, you think the few Ilka-Yars in Kismaayo brought by criminal Hiiraale would stay there once the true natives take over...Nothing will be done to them, but I guess they have to vacate the Harti houses and go back to Balanbale.
Why are you discussing the Jubaland affairs with Booli-Qaran raised Ilka-Yars who have no connection to the Deegaan. The true reer Gedo people are pro Azania and have been given ministerial positions in the administration. Their biggest Ugaas from Garbahaareey suppored the Azania initiative.
So Voltage,
In your right-mind, you think the few Ilka-Yars in Kismaayo brought by criminal Hiiraale would stay there once the true natives take over...Nothing will be done to them, but I guess they have to vacate the Harti houses and go back to Balanbale.
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Re: What do the Ahmed Madoobe loyalists think of this?
Your opinion on the issue is duly noted.
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Re: What do the Ahmed Madoobe loyalists think of this?
ina aadan wrote:War gaandhi iska dhig xagaas niyow Axmed madoobe oo Ogadenaba ma ogola e, idinku taangiga awliyada keenya inaynu ku xoraysano dhulkeena maxaad ka qabtaan.
Re: What do the Ahmed Madoobe loyalists think of this?
Shift wrote:This guy is nuts,marexaan are turning into tom hanks in that movie where he is stranded on a island trying to wify a vollyeball.
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Re: What do the Ahmed Madoobe loyalists think of this?
One of the best,this reminds me I should watch it again. 
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Re: What do the Ahmed Madoobe loyalists think of this?
Arinta sida loo adkeenayo iyo siday u fududahay isma lahan.
Waxaa ila haboon inta dagaalka fool-ka-foolka ah la galin
ee shabaab lagu saarayo waa in labada dhinac galaan heshiis
ku aadan ka talinta iyo maamulida gobolada ay dagaan iyadoo
fiiro gooni ah la siinayo kismaayo. Danta guud waxay ku jirtaa
in maamulka loo wada dhanyahay, dastuur loo simanyahayna la
dhisto.
Gaandhi cidi ka yeeli mayso anaa hogaanka idiin qabanayee isoo
daba safta mowqifkaygana ku socda.
Gaandhi labo wado ayaa hor taal:
1, Riyada uu ku jiro ayuu ka kici oo danta guud ayuu ka shaqayn.
2, Xaniinyo ayuu isku yeeli oo qori caaradii ayuu ajendihiisa ku gaari.
Tan koowaad waa tan raaliga lagu wada noqon karo.
Hadii noqotose tan labaad, asaga iyo inta taageerta un
ayaa ku qasaaro qaba.
Waxaa ila haboon inta dagaalka fool-ka-foolka ah la galin
ee shabaab lagu saarayo waa in labada dhinac galaan heshiis
ku aadan ka talinta iyo maamulida gobolada ay dagaan iyadoo
fiiro gooni ah la siinayo kismaayo. Danta guud waxay ku jirtaa
in maamulka loo wada dhanyahay, dastuur loo simanyahayna la
dhisto.
Gaandhi cidi ka yeeli mayso anaa hogaanka idiin qabanayee isoo
daba safta mowqifkaygana ku socda.
Gaandhi labo wado ayaa hor taal:
1, Riyada uu ku jiro ayuu ka kici oo danta guud ayuu ka shaqayn.
2, Xaniinyo ayuu isku yeeli oo qori caaradii ayuu ajendihiisa ku gaari.
Tan koowaad waa tan raaliga lagu wada noqon karo.
Hadii noqotose tan labaad, asaga iyo inta taageerta un
ayaa ku qasaaro qaba.
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Re: What do the Ahmed Madoobe loyalists think of this?
Shift wrote:This guy is nuts,marexaan are turning into tom hanks in that movie where he is stranded on a island trying to wify a vollyeball.
Re: What do the Ahmed Madoobe loyalists think of this?
SMH
Alshabaab have not been defeated yet and people are fighting over who will get the bigger piece of the pie

Alshabaab have not been defeated yet and people are fighting over who will get the bigger piece of the pie
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